Crazy thing is I don’t even think George watches these as much as we’d like to think he does. I think it’s just simply a case of he wants them “finished” just for the sake of them being “finished”.
Or… he’s just saying that to justify this stuff.
Obi-Wan wearing the same clothes for like 60 years is hilarious. But yes, many of us have had this gripe. Luke’s ROTJ outfit would have been the logical choice. They even acknowledge the ridiculous lack of practically in the prequels when the robes get thrown on the floor every time.
Vader was only trying to get the plans that were stolen. All these people were in his way shooting at him, it’s either sit there and let the firing squad kill him, or mow them down with a lightsaber. I myself, in that situation would have done the same thing.
Because if he loses the plans, he has to face the Emperor and the consequences for failing.
Darth Vader’s a fictional character though, justifying a story decision with in-universe facts doesn’t work. The writers could have just not had that be the case.
Imagine if a WW2 movie, which people like to reference to RO, ended with a scene in which a Gestapo agent slaughtered a bunch of resistance fighters. And then people cheered.
Palpatine’s theme plays in TLJ. It would have been easy to dovetail a third movie into what came before, in all kinds of ways. But since the writing of TROS is so atrocious the results speak for themselves.
recontextualizing the world, characters, or events of the original film in a way that makes them better in hindsight
They should make a new SW themed racing game that takes itself seriously. As for this? I don’t know, is it a real remake or a new game on top of the original bones?
Infernal Affairs II
Twin Peaks Fire Walk With MeBetter Call Saul
These were referenced above–now, I haven’t really watched much of them, but are people saying them because they are good PREQUELS or because they’re just good QUALITY? What did they change about the perception of the original story?
I chose these specifically, and didn’t pick Temple of Doom or The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly for example.
Prequels barely work in general.
Can people really come up with any prequels outside of SW that enhance the original?
Infernal Affairs II
Twin Peaks Fire Walk With Me
It seems even stranger in hindsight that in ESB the Rebel base is so small. Vader had to scour the galaxy for them but they had all these Mon Calamari allies from such an early date? I always presumed the largest group they had was in ROTJ.
SW: 5/5
ESB: 5/5
ROTJ: 4/5
TLJ: 3.5/5
TFA: 3/5
RO: 2.5/5
SOLO: 2.5/5
TROS: 2/5
TPM: 2/5
AOTC: 2/5
ROTS: 2/5
TCW: 1/5
I see Star Wars in general as being a ‘band effort’ rather than the sole vision of one man. Yes, SW is/was Lucas’ creation, but the input of folks like Kurtz, Dykstra, MacQuarrie, Johnston, Burt, Marcia Lucas, Kershner, Kasdan etc etc really helped shape this universe significantly. If anything I see the PT as the equivalent of Mick Jagger reforming the Stones with an all-new lineup. So I don’t buy into the ‘George as canon’ thing at all. A Lucas-ST probably would’ve sucked.
Harsh. But fair.
The Empire Strikes Back. There’s no screwing around, you know exactly what this movie is going to be about. It’s not that I think more interpretive titles or more vague titles are bad, but I just think it’s kind of funny how absolutely straight to the point it is. If you count “Star Wars” instead of “A New Hope”, this is why I’d also say “Star Wars” has the second best title.
Yeah, this.
What’s with the distortion and white specks though? It had other kinds of visual artefacts.
I have many issues, but purely from a prequel sense the scale is all wrong. I imagined more a guerilla battle against great odds. Or a heist gone wrong. Instead it’s an enormous battle that dwarfs the original Death Star assault. What remains is a spectacle that doesn’t lead into the next film in terms of tone or momentum.
TestingOutTheTest said:
I’m just playing my part.
Soon to be re-banned member?
Tell you what guys I will make a deal with you, let’s not respond to these insane threads any more. Starting here.
Somehow? I hate to break it to you but in real life history Empires and other kinds of power structures come and go all the time.
The ST is still infinitely better than the PT to me 🤷♂️.
Yeah but that’s not really saying much is it haha
Robert Rodriguez said:
Wait until you see what’s coming. It’s going to blow your mind. That’s all I can say. I can talk it up all I want, because I know it over-delivers. It way over-delivers. People are going to be so pumped when they see it.
This may be true, but surely this is also how he talks about every project?
Yes. And there are some very lengthy spells of WTF in between his handful of good ones.
With some clever writing in part three this could be something I enjoy despite a few very rough patches early on. Sort of like how the wonky Marvel movies lead up to some of the best scenes in the Infinity War plot. But I’m not really sure I can watch any of these again. I just don’t care now the conclusion is just a pathetic brainless product. Star Wars is still just a trilogy for me.
From what’s actually shown in the movies I always assumed Anakin enjoyed being aggressive to win battles. He would have naturally grown impatient with the Jedi teachers and taken the easier path. It’s a far more human response to their doctrine. Instead of all that “I need the secret to preventing death” nonsense. The only part that makes any real sense is his anger against the Tusken Raiders. But it falls down because we don’t ever see how that anger gives him more strength, and there are no repercussions. Where is the fallout or his anger towards Obi-wan and the council for letting this happen, or letting the slave trade continue? What does he learn from the experience, did he enjoy killing or see how rage is a powerful ally? It’s basically forgotten instead of being a genuine part of his character development.
The X-Men travel in a modified (fictional) version of the SR-71. But in this case the Naboo ship design connection also is correct.
If Force Sensitivity was a thing, why does Vader say this so casually? Why would he just kind of note “Hmm, the Force is strong with this one” and not flip shit that you just discovered someone with lots of midichlorians?
Checkmate atheists
At the time it was described as being something anyone could be weak or strong with, but actual training was what mattered. I think Gary Kurtz said it was like being a martial arts master, you gotta practice. Some people/families are stronger than others but it’s always there because all life generates it.
Yeah leaving the ring floating in space always seemed like a dumb idea. Like they wanted to make it retro but not any less functional? On the TIE I think the guy makes great designs and renders… but it doesn’t work for me. I prefer to see the fighter as a tool for ensuring total dependency.
I find that it’s a bad idea to talk about any of this out loud.
Bombs in SW have been dropping in space since 1980
