Mike O

Originally posted by: JediRandy
You all will watch it.

If the OOT has gotten a proper release before that show airs, then yes. Otherwise, probably no. I'm pretty much done with most of LFL's products until I see the one I want.

I ain't watching shit.......F*** the TV show. Hope it dies a quick ratings death and gets pre-empted by every sports game imaginable.

It may not be a lie from where Mr. Singh is sitting; consider the idea that Lucas has said that the LaserDisc source is the only one he is making available for the DVD. In that scenario, it is the best restoration available to the team that has pushed this idea this far. It seems that we have like-minded people within Lucasfilm but that they are being denied, too (even if they are only in it for the money, I'd see no reason that there wouldn't be people pushing for the best quality possible).

Ok, fine, but what they are saying is that this is the best that that they can do and Lucas is leaning on him. That doesn't change the fact that there are better prints, and saying that that the LD master are the best that they have is a lie, pure and simple.



True, but consider his MTV comments. He really doesn't think that there is anyone interested in the OOT. God willing, this release will prove him wrong.


Amen and amen. We can keep complaining here in the forum, or we can try to take this battle to Lucas by writing to the media.

"It's funny when people obsess over things like that - it' unbelievable. The person they adore and worship, who made the original film in the first place, says "This is the way it was meant to be..." And then they can't cope with it. The fans are strange, but in a delightfully damaged way."

I don't adore and worship him, Rick. I really don't care what was meant to be. I want a high quality version of the originals of my own. After that, Lucas can mess with the films "he made" (I'm sure that Irvin Kershner, Gary Kurtz, Lawrence Kasdan, Richard Marquand, and the millions of craftsman and technicians who worked their tails off to get the original versions made would apprecate that) all he wants to. You seem to have trouble grasping this concept Rick--we really don't care, good, bad, or indifferent about the SEs. We just want to watch copies of the originals that meet industry standards. Why is it that whenever OOT fans express a desire for the original version, we are attacking Lucas's vision? That's like saying that a critic who pans Brokemback Mountain is homophobic. Perhaps he simply didn't like the film? Perhaps we simply don't like the SEs, but have nothing against the man? Just release versions of the originals that don't suck and we will shut up. Otherwise, we will continue this fight. You can't win Rick. You can't. And sooner or later, you will give in. Its really not unbeiveable. Ah, well. At least they're advertising the OOT. Please God, let it sell well.



After Lucas passes away, I worry that Rick might still attempt to surpress the OOT. Of course, I also believe that the OOT will come out before Lucas dies anyway, and so the point will be moot. Really, George, Rick, I wish you guys long, happy, healthy lives. I really do. But release the versions of the movies that I want.

Rick McCockum

Originally posted by: JediRandy
Some DVD's ahead of the ANH OOT DVD:
Robin Hood: Men In Tights
Poseidon (Widescreen)
Police Squad!

Some DVD's ahead of the final 2 films of the OT
Romancing The Stone / Jewel Of The Nile (2 Pack)
Remington Steele: Seasons 4 & 5

Phew. I guess the OOT DVD really were "In Demand".

Originally posted by: Mielr
That's great, Michael. You know, little by little, I think they're getting the message.

I hope so. The interesting thing is this: they're answering. They may be answering with what amount to a backhandedness or at worst a big "!@#$ you," but they are answering.



No, clearly you don't.

I hope you will be able to understand that we want to both honor George Lucas's artistic intentions as well as provide those first versions for DVD viewers.

In any case, all 3 will move up when the marketing starts, as you said.

I hope so. When will the marketing start? You'd think that Lucasfilm would be marketing the hell out of these discs, just because they have the SW logo on them.

It takes more than die-hard fans to generate sales to make these kind of rankings. It takes lots of casual fans and viewers as well. These numbers are starting to make me feel better, because I think the only chance we have of ever getting a high-quality O-OT on DVD from Lucas is high sales on this one.

Originally posted by: darkhelmet

Yeah, hopefully. BTW, your quote says it all; I love it: "Now we must specify that we want high quality versions. Shouldn't that be a given?"

I hope you will have a chance to see these first versions of the movies on DVD when they come out. Those who have been communicating their opinions and beliefs online have not seen the DVDs.

Yes, they have.



No, I will not shut up until you do the OOT justice. Sorry.

Someone, like the webmaster ( ) should take this in his hands and name a date and an adress to mail, so everyone can join in one big hit.

Originally posted by: dark_jedi
and if they are letterbox,oh well,laserdiscs are LB also,just rip to your hard drive and make them anamorphic yourself,not to difficult,and i bet it will still look better than the friggin LD's.
just my opinion,cant friggin wait for sept. 12th to get here so all this damn speculating and bashing can fu__ing end.
DJ

hell you will probably find at your favorite torrent sites,someone already has done this for you,made them anamorphic and then releasing.

The point is that they shouldn't have to. Lucasfilm is a multi-billion dollar company and is not only capable of releasing a proper release. Lucasfilm richly deserve every ounce of criticism leveled them for this DVD release, and Lucas deserves it for trying to suppress the originals and then mistreating them.

Mike O, Lucas will make sure this is the final release of the OOT with whatever power he has. He slipped this time to stop bootleggers. And The OOT will never be released in HD in good quality, and we probably wont see the substandard blu-rays until 2015.

I'm thinking that you may be right with the summation that "low sales=no one wants the OOT". This tactic would seem to be in line with what Lucas said on MTV.com and gives more credence to the idea that Lucas is dealing with us from a stacked deck

But, maybe low sales equals "No one wants the OOT."

That's what I'm afraid of as well. But I sincerely hope that I am wrong. Everyone cross their fingers.

Just be patient. It will happen.