Towne32, those screen caps look really good! I would love to watch a version with those colors. Still a huge fan of the techicolor look as well and I’m looking forward for the improvents in DE-ED 3.0!
I was hoping to be immortalized by spoting that floor tile that so far had gone by un-noticed in both versions of ESB DE-ED, and thought it seemed just as valid as re-colored sleeves, strands of hair and ships that disappear for 1 frame. I think it’s back to lurking again 😛
Well I don’t think he’ll ever be able to forget if you keep going at this rate.
Thats the idea. I’ll be repeating it just to be sure.
2014 Never Forget. RIP In Peace.
Legendary forum meme?
-Ignore this post- 😉
I’m definitely taking a break but not a long one - my optimistic estimate is that ESB v2.5 could be done in like a month.
Sweet!
At the risk of getting bashed for this, I’ve talked to several people who, like myself, have calibrated monitors and we all agreed that the contrast/brightness on both Empire and Jedi is way low, for some reason. SW looks perfect but both Empire and Jedi just seem to be quite dark. Did something change there?
I’ve had similar issues with certain movies looking a bit dark on my calibrated monitor, but look just fine on my calibrated tv?
Are there any public torrens avaiable?
Yes there is, I found it in 10 secs via google. You might wanna try that.
Watched this last night, and good lord does it look wonderful. All of the 35mm stuff is integrated so much more smoothly than it was on the workprint. Now I’m really hoping that debated SW 2.6 actually happens, because this near-GOUTless wonder is so far ahead of the other two.
Actually, instead of making a v2.6 SW, I’m thinking about making v3.0 a quick 1080p update for all three movies. Essentially, for color correction just upscaling the 720p masters and applying it as a chroma (color) layer over the 1080p BD and replacing the Despecialized shots with just quick 1080p 35mm cleanups and then making v4.0 the final polished versions with new color corrections and more careful cleanup and rotoscoping and stuff (for SW, this would basically be almost the same as working on v2.6 and for the other two, it should be a fairly fast process, since by that point I should have all the 35mm shots ready at 1080p anyway).
“You must do what you feel is right, of course” If you’ve got the energy to revisit both V and VI again before you start v4.0, I’d say go for it. I would probably settle with 2.5 for V and VI and enjoy the hell out of SW v3.0 until the v4.0 trilogy is released. But then again I know how badly some people here long for 1080p 😉
I’m so happy this is finished! Congrats to Harmy! Will grab this and kick back a bit for ESB 2.5 and then run the marathon my GF has been nagging about 😃 These are indeed
good times for OT fans!
Really looking for the new comparison gallery as well. I’m also curious towards
what GOUT footage there might be that is left in. GOUT would seem obsolete now the
35mm is avalaible, but I guess getting rid of it would call for every single
bit to be despecialized again from scratch.
Cheers!
No correct guesses so far 😉
A cleaned up version of the complete 35 mm scan?
SSE - Grindhouse - 35mm Jedi, the last one missing?
https://youtu.be/HNGXsgLRkXU
Well, minus the cleanup 😄
Woho!
No correct guesses so far 😉
A cleaned up version of the complete 35 mm scan?
SSE - Grindhouse - 35mm Jedi, the last one missing?
and make previously disappearing ships last well into the next scene, even if it is a forest or underwater or somewhere you wouldn’t expect to see a spacecraft. Felt there was never enough TIE fighter involvement in the speeder bike chase, and George would probably agree.
Nah, those tie fighters should be composited into every single frame of the movie!
Would there actually be an increase in quality, though? 70mm was just the blow up, not the movie’s native format.
Excellent point! The audio track still makes it desirable though 😉
That’s a tongue-in-cheek usage of wrong. A few shots differ between Harmy’s and the SSE in interesting ways (not obviously SE changes), and since the SSE is the theatrical version goal, any differences in Harmy’s are wrong in that context. Of course, there is nothing wrong with Harmy’s except perhaps where there is still special edition stuff in it since his goal is the eradication of such stuff.
And just what are those “interesting ways”? Would love to hear about it. And what SE stuff is still in there? You might want to post that in the DE quality control-thread.
We have the Raw 81 crawl scans, and will also be restoring those as an extra.
That’s a very nice idea for an extra!
And thanks for clearing up most of the confusion surrounding
this project!
The techs are all missing frames, and are cropped more than the other prints.
They also have more damage on them.Therefore we will be using replacements where we can.
Team Negative1
Somehow oversaw this bit of info from the LPP thread:
“The LPP is only there to fill in the dirt and replace the missing frames. This project is all about the Technicolor version of Star Wars. It’s sharper, and the colors are much nicer than the LPP, but it’s also has a lot more damage. As a bonus, using the techniques demonstrated here, we may also end up with a version of the LPP color timed to match the tech 😃”
But still, guys: What’s up with the Kodak reels? Further dirt mapping and/or frame replacements?
I don’t know where the Eastman print fits into this either. But perhaps this will help: the sample clip is missing 52 frames. 26 at the start and 26 more in groups of 2, 5, 8 scattered about in the middle. The LPP is missing only 3 frames at the start of the reel. I replaced all the frames I could using the LPP, but the beginning of the sample would then have been LPP, so I removed the frames at the start.
Does that make more sense?
Yes and no 😃 I fully understand what you did there, and I didn’t manage to spot any of the frames from the LPP. But shouldn’t those missing frames be from the Eastman print? Anyway, keep doing what you’re doing, it sure looks promising!
But did you spot the 26 frames I replaced using the LPP? If you look at the lightsaber duel, there are several frames that were missing from the Tech and I replaced using the LPP. At full speed it’s hard to spot unless you are looking for it, but if you slow it down, you’ll see it gets much grainier.
Initially I replaced 23 of those first 26 using the LPP, but I trimmed them from the final sample because they looked pretty rough and I didn’t want it to be judged on LPP frames…
I’m a bit confused as well… Were those 26 frames absent from both Tech and the Eastman? I assume the finished version will have no LPP frames at all, or it would be called a Tech vs Eastman vs LPP preservation?
You stated that it’s based on Eastman with Tech references, but the sample is entirely from a TECH reel, minus the missing frames?
The sample posted is indeed mind-blowing, I just feel I could still use an even more pedagogic review of the details regarding this project. You guys have my full support!
We’ll start a new thread for the Eastman vs Technicolor version when we are ready to discuss more about it.
Team Negative1
Right - we have to finish the LPP first!
Edit: But I will add one more teaser, just for the OT crowd.
This video was produced using this technique (plus a little post processing to clean it up a little more), and it only took about a week… It has not been color corrected.
Wow, that’s gorgeous! Can’t wait for THAT version!
Personally, I’m old school. I want it to look as close to watching a 35mm film print at the cinema in 1977 as possible because that is the film that won the Oscars. That is the film that became a phenomenon, and that is the film I want to watch. I think we’re getting closer to that goal.
This makes all the sense in the world! Good luck now, to everyone involved with the BD and the quest for those lost frames!
This is my first post on the forum. I just wanted to say thank you to Team Negative1 for restoring this film back to the cinematic way that I remember it, grain and all. I downloaded this yesterday and watched it and I was immediately taken back to that galaxy far far away. Thanks again for restoring that magic. I look forward to your next release. Keep up the good work!!!
This is a proper first post!
I’ve never even seen Harmy’s v1.0 of ROTJ so I’m pretty excited to watch 2.0. In fact, I don’t think I’ve even seen v2.0 of ANH and ESB.
I’ve got some catching up to do haha.
You’re in for a treat, that’s for sure!
Congratulations to the entire team!! 😃 What an effort, I’m sure it will sit comfortably on the throne right next to Despecialized! I’m gonna hold out for the iso though, so I won’t miss any of the additional tweaks.
I just gotta ask, since this isn’t gout synced;
“audio - we will have a partially restored mono track,
the 35mm theatrical mix, and a reconstructed 70mm version,
along with the original 35mm spanish soundtrack for it.”
Is this info still relevant? Is/was Hairy_Hen working on a synced up surround mix,
or was the initial aim to have had this release gout synced?
Thanks for all your work, what a way to start this year for conservative Star Wars fan!
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-Wario64l, 2016
Excellent idea!