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#1140703
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Rogue One * <em>Spoilers</em> * Thread
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oojason said:
That’s Mala’s opinion mate - and she’s welcome to it - despite seemingly, and somewhat desperately, trying to portray her opinions as some sort of fact.

Oh, dude, come on, be serious 😃 We’re on a forum where some opinions about some movies are considered facts (such as “PT = crap”, “Disney Wars = gold”) and never realy opened for debating. Dare to say that a PT entry is better than any of the new Disney movies and you’ll get a full crowd repeating you “you’re wrong, you cant’ say that, you’re mad, blablabla”.

and yet you spent a fair bit of time in Rogue One fan edit threads on a film that in your opinion with ‘No story, no characters, no emotion, nothing (emptiness at its best)’ and ‘in a few years from now people won’t really watch R1 anymore…’ and even contributed to…

Yeah, fanediting is fun and I welcome and respect any attempt to make a bad movie something better and watchable, especially in the SW universe. Some people managed that with TPM and AOTC, so it’s possible with R1 as well. Besides I really do like most of the faneditors around here that happen to be very cool and interesting people, so if I want to contribute I believe I do whatever I want. Or is it against this forum policy ? Would it be better for you that everyone on this forum thinks this exact same thing about each SW entry (each time an “non” orthodox ranking is published the exact same members eract immediately the exact same way… every fucking time, like some kind of “Thought Police”) ? I’m wondering 'cause I can’t remember when you called Frink’s and others excessive behaviors on this matter trolling as well… (edit: hum… maybe that one time recently but that all I can remember)

(as long as Mala doesn’t carry on repeating this across the site, or is baiting / antagonizing / trolling others with it - especially after being asked to stop doing just that - which I am sure she wouldn’t do…)

Last time I checked I was the one being trolled/provoked every f****** time and you know it, but… anyway 😉

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#1140696
Topic
The Force Awakens - The Starlight Project
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NeverarGreat said:

MalàStrana said:

I think your crawl is far too complex and contains too much information (a first time viewer wouldn’t understand half of it, especially in a movie which is a sequel to an episode where everything seemed to be resolved).

This is actually my issue with the original Force Awakens crawl:

Luke Skywalker has vanished.
In his absence, the sinister
FIRST ORDER has risen from
theashes of the Empire and
will not rest until Skywalker,
the last Jedi, has been destroyed.

In the first paragraph we are told about Luke Skywalker, the First Order, the Empire, and the Jedi. That’s a lot of information for a first-time viewer, and we are never given any indication of what the Jedi do or why they are so important. But I can understand why we might need to retain the line about the fallen Empire.

Yeah but we know who is Luke, what was the Empire (5 movies prior to this one about the Empire ! Soon 6… 7… 8… etc.) and we are familiar with the Jedi. I’m not a fan of TFA crawl but at least the first paragraph explains why the victory at the end of ROTJ is long forgotten and that some kind of neo Empire is back in business.

(I can’t believe I’m defending something written by JJ Abrams…)

Here’s a version that explains a bit more:

The galaxy is in peril.
Rising from the ashes
of the fallen Empire,
a sinister FIRST ORDER
is building a weapon that
can devour entire stars.

Better ! But I would remove “the galaxy is in peril”.

Without the protection of
the mystical Jedi Knights,
The Republic is blind to this
deadly threat. Only General
Leia Organa, haunted by
visions of impending doom,
mobilizes a small Resistance.

Very complex again, and what you be the payoff of “Leia’s visions” in your cut ?

On a mission to a distant
world, one of her pilots has
found a clue to the location
of Leia’s long-lost brother,
the last of the Jedi Knights
and their only hope against
the forces of darkness…

Seems like you just more or less rephrased the last sentence of the original crawl.

Sorry if I’m nitpicking, writing a crawl is a very difficult exercice (where is Brian de Palma when we need him !).

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#1140580
Topic
Ranking the Star Wars films
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ROTS is a better movie than R1 at every single level. R1 being more recent has better special effects and Edwards being a competent shooter the movie has a few well made shots. But that’s pretty much it. No story, no characters, no emotion, nothing (emptiness at its best). You’re not the first one I know to rank ROTS higher than R1 (in a few years from now people won’t really watch R1 anymore: it’s half nothing with small bits of EU and half a ROTJ remake with boring characters tha get stupid and repetitive death scenes… so really there is nothing interesting in R1 outside some “star wars porn” shots…).

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#1140578
Topic
The Force Awakens - The Starlight Project
Time

NeverarGreat said:

Good points, everyone. As I’ve said, the Rathtars will be reduced but not eliminated.

DigMod tried a reduced version that was almost totally convincing (he might have cut a little too much but overall it was better than the theatrical cut without creating continuity issues).

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#1140577
Topic
The Force Awakens - The Starlight Project
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NeverarGreat said:
On the subject of the crawl, here’s another attempt, taking into consideration the previous suggestions:

The galaxy is in peril.

With this first line you don’t acknowledge anything about Episode VI, which ends with the galaxy saved from the Empire and the Sith.
I think your crawl is far too complex and contains too much information (a first time viewer wouldn’t understand half of it, especially in a movie which is a sequel to an episode where everything seemed to be resolved).

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#1140576
Topic
STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
Time

trimboNZ said:

adywan said:

I said a while ago that the Blu_ray/ DVD versions won’t be available until mid next year at the earliest

Thanks, I obviously completely missed that!

Why waiting that long by the way ? I understand that making a full bluray with menu and features takes time, but if the fanedit already exists in high quality I fail to understand why a mkv of the ucompressed version of the edit is postoned to next summer.

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#1140283
Topic
TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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I agree but again it might not be the goal of this edit (it was removed in v1 though). Maybe Sir Ridley or Nev are going to remove it in their own edits (edits that I’m also looking forward to watching when available).

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#1139987
Topic
TFA: A Gentle Restructure
Time

Hal 9000 said:
EDIT: Although I could go for: “Weapon reprimed to shoot them a second time.” (Imagine the most exaggerated stereotypical French accent possible, by John Cleese.)

LOL

For The Ridiculous Awakens: Restructured maybe 😃

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#1139986
Topic
In what way I should watch a Star Wars Marathon?
Time

Hal 9000 said:
Clone Wars microseries

At last ! I never get why so many people don’t watch this masterpiece (yep) in their marathon (the microseries is better than most of the movies ! CW’s Grievous might be the best SW vilain since the Emperor).

I would include R1 - in a fanedited form, no way I’m ever gonna watch the boring theatrical cut again - but it bears too many consistency issues with ANH (whereas it is supposed to end a few minutes before ANH starts). TPM and AOTC inconsistencies happen such a long time ago before the OT that it seems less problematic than R1 issues with ANH.

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#1139977
Topic
TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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Nah thanks, I don’t have the tools to record properly something and my french accent is terrible (not quite as terrible as the Monty Python’s french accent in Holy Grail but still…). I was thinking about an real english guy actually (tradition of most SW bad guys being english), the only one I “know” around here is Adywan (and likely to have the tools to record something usable), but Sir Ridley would be a very good idea ! I cannot recall where Never is from.

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#1139969
Topic
TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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Hal 9000 said:
Maybe dub tech guy to tell Hux “weapon reprimed in 30 seconds” or “weapon fully recharged.” Can’t be myself; needs to sound vaguely European.

An english guy around here with an european english accent and who might have the tech to record a new line… hum… that’s pretty easy to find 😃

(more “Weapon reset in 30 seconds” to imply there is some kind of calculations to adjust before firing ?)

(edit: oh thanks I didn’t know “reprimed” was more or less a synonym of “reset” ! That’s why I like american forums !)

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#1139946
Topic
TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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It’s more a “ok, now they are here” statement than a surprise ('cause the fact they are rushing to get the saber in the basement acknowledges they are aware of the upcoming attack, something that was totally unclear in the theatrical cut).

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#1139705
Topic
TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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It is time… to watch this edit !

Congrats to everyone. It’s been very fun to follow the progress of the project with the new ideas popping here and there and the mock concepts to feed the interest all along. I never went back to the theatrical cuts of the PT after watching Hal’s versions; I’ll never go back as well to the original TFA cut with this impressive v2 (the “fanedit sfx department” is to get special praised, thanks guys !).

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#1139446
Topic
TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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Side note for ayone who would like to edit it further (so out of scope of Restructured): why does Rey say “we both will [get BB8 to the Resistance]” to totally change her mind a few minutes later for absolutely non reason (“I’m going back to Jakku”) ? (and don’t tell me her lack of consistence gives her depth characterization, please 😉)

(the kind of thing during Lucas era everyone would make fun of but for some reason for TFA it seems no one really cares about inconsistent dialogues such as this one 😃)

(anyway, 1/3 of french and english done, trying to finish it this evening !)

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#1139375
Topic
TFA: A Gentle Restructure
Time

Sir Ridley said:

but it might be better to put the credits somewhere else instead.

I’m quite sure Hal is likely to make a press release of the cut list like he did for v1 and for the PT, where he gives due credit for every single change 😉

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#1139368
Topic
TFA: A Gentle Restructure
Time

NeverarGreat said:

Here’s the V1 cutlist

Thanks a lot for that, I really needed it to know everything that got tweaked !

Hal 9000 said:

I’m pleased to report that I am exporting a test file of the entire film, to send to Mala to get subtitles going.

Cool ! Don’t make it bigger than 2 Go and a Mega link would be great !

Are you going to release a fully uncompressed version like you did with V1 ?

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