Joshua_Blue

Not a bad idea, I'll try that line.

Anyway, I think the scene works  even without the "This is the system line", but might be even better with the suggested additional line.

If it doesn't I can still just drop it, I do not think the debate over the tracking device is crucial. As mentioned, Lea already concludes that the ease of their escape was due to being let to by the Empire.

A new idea (just a test video, audio/video not perfect):

http://www.speedyshare.com/gRpvV/test3.mp4

I have moved the 'This had better work!' scene and combined it with a later scene of Tarkin and Vader

It actually looks quite ok, what do you think? How I see it now, Tarkin has doubts about Vader's tracking device idea, but we are now already orbiting the planet and Vader calmly (and over confidently) rejects the worries, as if he knew all along it was going to work...

I am thinking about adding some tremolo effect to Tarkin's 'This had better work!' line, while at the same time amping up Vader's breathing. Tarkin's tone is now weaker and sort of gives the feeling  Tarking is just actually beeing a bit afraid about this plan working out, without '...or else...' feeling at the end.

I'll try to play around with it a bit...if doesn't work out, I'll just leave it in or actually just cut the whole scene. We already have clues that the empire is tracking the MF, as Lea mentions it to Han.

I have tried cutting the whole line, but the scene then ends kind of abruptly you can feel something was cut, so this doesn't look promising.

I'll see what I can do with this scene. I might just take out the 'This had better work!' line, because I would not like to re-use the lines. The problem is that camera keeps moving so maybe I'll try to go to Vader's close-up after Tarkin says 'I am taking an awful lot of risk Vader.', just to end on Vader, not on Tarkin.

I have now finished editing. All that I wanted and was able to fix is done. Now only the end credits remain.

If someone could create end credits for me, I'd be very grateful. Or at  least if could someone tell me the font type, so I could try to make a very basic fade in/ fade out of a couple of lines.  That's actually all I need.

New clip:

http://speedy.sh/5x5qc/She-lied-to-us.mp4

Much better with the shorter pause.

Mac, the for the ideas. I agree with you and I will try to shorten the break after Vader's line.

Where were all these positive feedbacks 2 years ago when I first posted the clip... :)

Ok, given the positive comments, I will use this solution (Tarkin remains silent), and make the final tweaks to finalize the scene.

This leaves just the following scene: Tarkin says:  "I'm taking an awful risk, Vader. This had better work."

But whether this makes Vader weaker, or just Tarin insecure is not so clear. Any ideas, opinions?

Btw, I have already tried this some time ago:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/ANH-R-Stronger-Vader-edit/post/599176/#TopicPost599176

Test video: http://vimeo.com/51940950

But there was no feedback, except it made Bingowings laugh :)

Without a more punchy line from Vader Tarkin's silence is unintentionally funny (well I laughed... sorry).

so I scraped the change and forgot about it.

Now that I am in the finishing stages, I came back to this scene and I think that if I tweak the video idea above, it could work.

I'll will post the new tweaked video of the original cut so Tarkin remains silent, and a version ending with Tarkin just saying "Terminate her.".

I was thinking about the Vader-Tarkin scene "Terminate her...Immediately!"

"Immediately!" sounds much much of an order, than the "Terminate her."

What if I make a cut right there? Tarkin says "Terminate her." and cut to the Falcon. That makes Tarkin make a routine order of executing a prisoner, not demanding of Vader to do it "Immediately!"

What do you think?

Just want to thank Oh_riginal for the review. I really helps is other fans  comment...

Just sent the DL link of the one forum member. One or two testers are still welcome.

Some recent changes:

• the takeoff sequence from the Yavin base streamlined,
• small cuts throughout the battle.

Purpose: improve  pacing while taking out some (in my opinion) most obviously outdated shoots.

The whole edit is 2:11 min shorter than ANH:R.

Rendering the first test of the final version. If there are one or two serious testers out there and interested, PM me. I'd like an honest comment before I finalize the edit.

A lot of the things you plan to do, have already been done in my edit, especially one that address Vader (my edit is called "A Stronger Vader" edit: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/ANH-R-Stronger-Vader-edit/topic/13462/).

I however did not change anything to make it tie-in better with the PT.

Should be finished very soon, a week or two at max.

Slowly moving towards finishing this thing... ;)

I agree that the torture droid removal is not perfect, but to me it is better than keeping the droid, and also it is the best I could do (for now at least).

I try to see if I can smooth things out a bit, and also maybe try some other screams. In any case, the torture droid will not be in the final edit ;)

I also think I'll slow down some of Vader's jerky head movements in this scene. Just doesn't look right.

A test of removing the comment regarding the mind probe:

https://vimeo.com/96516276

I was skeptical at first, but now I think it sounds pretty good. What do you think?

It is actually the very same scream :)

I got it from a website with free sound samples. If anyone can provide me with a better scream, I'll be happy to use it.

Test 3 (Vader close-up, Leia's scream, door close).

https://vimeo.com/95020296

I think It works quite well, I just need a better scream sample. Also, as mentioned, the torture droid sound is significantly reduced.

Suggestions (links/audio files) for the scream are welcome ;)

Ok, also a good idea.

I was still thinking that Lea hears a scream from outside the cell (from other prisoners) and she now knows what awaits her, so she gives a scared look, but your idea Bingo could also work. I will try both, and see what I can make to work and what not.

Btw, just a little bit of playing in Audacity and the torture droid sound is significantly reduced ;)

Just a test with a scream added, not final.  Now working on reducing the torture droid sound):

https://vimeo.com/94824255

I really hope to get this done too. That might also mean that the prison cell scene might not be perfect, but I will not let one scene stop me.

As for the mouse droid, I might re-render a  version with that left in, but only later.

No let me try to play around a bit with some scream sounds ;)

Not sure on having Vader deliver his lines behind the closed doors.

Also, when the scream was mentioned, I assumed we are talking about a scream heard by Lea coming from outside her cell from other potential prisoners (or something similar).

Actually I think placing this scream just before the switch to Vader close-up just might work.