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JayArgonaut

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#1092526
Topic
Star Trek movies - alternate versions
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pittrek said:

Star Trek IV - The Voyage Home

  • USA theatrical version - released on Blu-ray
  • UK theatrical version called “The Voyage Home : Star Trek” - apparently released on VHS?
  • PAL DVD version - DVD - features a new beginning containing a montage of scenes from Star Trek II and III
  • are there any more versions?

The “story so far” montage seen on the PAL DVD release was not new. It was present in the UK theatrical version in 1986 (I saw it) and it was also present on the version of ST IV included in the UK VHS TOS era widescreen collection.

pittrek said:

Star Trek VI - The Undiscovered Country

  • theatrical version - released on Blu-ray
  • VHS/Laserdisc version - released on LD/VHS
  • DVD version - released on DVD
    Are there any more versions? 3 different cuts doesn’t seem like enough, since Nick Meyer is a bit of a George Lucas and he tries to re-do his films constantly. I also heard that the REAL theatrical version had different closing credits, but I never managed to find any evidence of its existence.

There are two DVD releases of ST VI. The original, which is the same cut as the VHS/LD release and then a special edition, with a different aspect ratio (1.78:1) and the faces of the conspirators are shown during Valeris’ mind meld interrogation.

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#1088763
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Video Game Thread
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Jeebus said:

LuckyGungan2001 said:

I’ve been playing a heap of Fallout 3 recently. I know it gets a lot of hate, but if this is the worst Fallout game, I can’t wait to play the best.

It isn’t, that would be 4. The best of the 3D is New Vegas, no doubt.

Really? That’s interesting, I bought PS3 New Vegas some time ago but never played it much. Sounds like I ought to revisit it.

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#1087017
Topic
Preservations of the 80s HBO and NBC TESB broadcasts?
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I had a look through the forum using Google and the search terms, “HBO”, “NBC” and “empire” but nothing came up. Is there any interest in preserving these, especially since the 87’ NBC airing featured a special intro by James Earl Jones? Does anyone know if they are from the same master used for the time compressed 1985 Pan and Scan CAV LD?

1987 HBO intro for The Empire Strikes Back

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xs5BQJ7QhFA

Remake of The Empire Strikes Back NBC Intro (the original clip seems to have vanished from YouTube)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHzVjP9sH50

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#1082827
Topic
Star Wars: The Clone Wars Broadcasted Version VS Home Media Release
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Jesta’ said:

From now until season 6 we will be dealing with censorship.

ARC Troopers
11:31 to 11:32 was removed for the broadcast on Cartoon Network
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-mqn4s61no (Side note: The clip is from the Blu Ray release, but the one who posted it cropped the vidoe to 16:9)

(Unaltered Version found only on iTunes and the original broadcast)

This is somewhat confusing, you state that the Cartoon Network broadcast was censored but yet you also state that only the iTunes and original broadcast are unaltered. Is the Blu-ray not uncensored?

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#1080584
Topic
Banned members
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That’s right, he did mention the age. First he was banned over the post with a racial slur and now this. Fair enough.

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#1079354
Topic
TITANIC 35mm Preservation!
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Papai2013 said:

JayArgonaut said:

JC has also altered the colour grading, in a similar vein to that visited upon Aliens and The Terminator.

Actually, the home video colour of all the films were wrong, if that’s what you hold as sacrosanct. They did not reflect the photochemical finish of the 35mm prints, which had more yellow, teal, purple and brown. This was the case with almost all mainstream studio films back in the day. Titanic’s colour timing is no exception.
The digital grading of 2012 tries to go back to that look but because of the limitations of the Rec 709 colour space, it still cannot achieve that result.
From what I have seen, Aliens, The Terminator, all look close to their 35mm couterparts but not the same.

Very well but I’m sticking with the earlier versions of all three films. For me, the comparison below sums up why the director does not always know best. 😃

Aliens Colour Grading Comparison

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#1077831
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TITANIC 35mm Preservation!
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Papai2013 said:

The only things that were changed in Titanic was the star field in the sky, removal of studio equipment, re-framing the “Left Eye,” “Right Eye” shots, making the “TITANIC” credit a bit bolder. I am not aware of anything else that was changed.

JC has also altered the colour grading, in a similar vein to that visited upon Aliens and The Terminator.

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#1077607
Topic
Alien 1979 35mm scan opportunity
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RU.08 said:

By the way if there’s any Britons here, Alien is playing in 70MM at the Prince Charles Cinema in London on the 1st, 3rd, and 7th of June (details here). If you go please take notes and then tell us how it compares to the Bluray colour grading, contrast, and black levels. 😃

No promises but I’ll try. 😃

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#1077604
Topic
TITANIC 35mm Preservation!
Time

Agreed and the horrendous colour shift that JC has inflicted upon Aliens is far from minor.

Good luck with this preservation, I’d love to contribute but finances aren’t great right now.

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#1076938
Topic
Ghostbusters Criterion PCM Track
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bkev said:

JayArgonaut said:

Unfortunately so. Sped up and truncated. Film4 is the most irritating offender in this respect because they time compress films to death, even omitting entire credit sequences that are relevant to the film, whilst marketing themselves as the dedicated film channel.

Sidenote: you think that’s bad? It’s been (more than) the norm in the USA for over 10 years! It’s harder to find a channel that shows the credits at all (outside of a box in the corner) than one that does.

😃 It’s been a long time practice in the UK too - going back to the late 90s (from what I can remember) and prior to that, the leading commercial broadcaster would just remove entire scenes in order to cram in more adverts.

Yes, I’ve seen exactly what you’ve described when I’ve spent time on the other side on the Atlantic. TBS Pan Regional really stood out - the credits for Friends ran accelerated in a window whilst the promos for other broadcasts got underway. I think HBO was one of the few channels where that didn’t happen.

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#1076684
Topic
Ghostbusters Criterion PCM Track
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alloneword said:

JayArgonaut said:

Does your HDTV rip suffer from time compressed/truncated credits?

The one I got from rutracker does not. It’s literally like watching an HD version of the 2005 PAL DVD (I assume anyway, never actually owned the 2005 DVD’s of either film).

I’ll check it out.

Moth3r said:

Yes, the “network premiere” (ITV, 7:30pm Boxing Day 1987) used the TV “Wally Wick” version.

I remember seeing it again a few years later, post-watershed, and it was the uncut “dickless” version.

Thanks, I thought it was because I vaguely remembered it being listed in the Xmas 1987 TVTimes as “TV version.” Speaking of which, there it is, in the top left hand corner:

TVTimes Xmas 1987

On a related note, the Freeview EPG used to warn you if a film had been “edited for content” but that no longer appears to happen and you have to buy the Radio Times for that information.

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