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#1088494
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I believe that the DVDs have more resolution than the actual LaserDiscs, being that they were sourced from the pressing master used for the LaserDiscs – so this upscale does beat a LaserDisc rip by far. But even with upscaling, you cannot create information that simply isn’t there; the GOUT masters being non-anamorphic puts us at a massive disadvantage. That being said, this has made the GOUT look slightly better, due to the filers utilized.

Here’s where each iteration of the masters falls in line, in terms of quality (from best to worst):
Original Film -> Telecine Master -> Pressing Master (GOUT source) -> LaserDisc & VHS

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#1088460
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Thank you all for your feedback. Very happy to hear that the GOUT is still useful even with all the other projects going on now.

There could be more done to these in the future, but the further you filter the GOUT, the more synthetic it looks… and it already looks bad! I don’t plan to make V2 of this project, unless there are errors in the encodes themselves, though there shouldn’t be.

For those who have surround systems, I hope you’re able to utilize the PCM mix with ProLogic. All three films have power sound, and need to be heard in uncompressed quality.

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nightstalkerpoet said:

Definitely got that nostalgia feel 😄

My only small suggestion/request is that perhaps you could reinsert the Ep 4, ANH crawl. The XO project scan should provide an awesome starting point, though I think that’s NTSC sourced so you may want to look into a PAL laserdisc rip. Or not - this looks great and is an awesome GOUT project. Otherwise, perhaps I could get a lossless copy from you to assemble it for myself without re-encoding?

What were your encode settings for this, btw?

Very much looking forward to ESB and RotJ

I would like to put the '81 crawl back in (perhaps sourced from DeSpecialized v2.7?), but wasn’t exactly sure as to how it could be done. I’ll look into it for a V2 release. TESB will be up later this afternoon!

I did a double pass encode, average bitrate of 15mpbs, with a max of 25mbps.

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#1087836
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nightstalkerpoet said:

After this, will you move on to ROPUT (Rise of the Prequel Unaltered Trilogy).

Ep 1: laserdisc
Ep 2: Centropy bootleg
Ep 3: screener

And perhaps you should release Star Wars first, that way you can get any feedback before encoding/ releasing ESB/RotJ

Tempting, very tempting. Only time will tell – I would love to at least preserve TPM though!

Good idea, I’ll start with ANH first, paired with the '93 LD audio in LPCM.

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#1087382
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nightstalkerpoet said:

Very Cool. Are you able to import subs from Project 3P0? Would save you time from trying to do it from scratch.

Thankfully, I already created these GOUT-synced subtitles (utilizing theatrical placement and timing) a few months back for my Blu-ray project, so they’re all done, minus a blur effect. I will include English subtitles from Project Threepio, but not for the Alien subtitles – many Blu-ray players I’ve tested the MKVs on can’t display the text correctly for some reason…

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#1087045
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Right now my plan is to only include the '93 Stereo mixes in LPCM. I am considering just muxing in the rest from Harmy’s DeSpecialized, but I don’t know if they’re absolutely necessary (makes the files much bigger). Being that it’s GOUT synced, anyone can add in what they want later on.

Here’s my latest comparison between the Original GOUT and ROTGOUT:

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/214272

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#1086956
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nightstalkerpoet said:

They look great.

How much more work before release?

Would love these to be released with custom covers based on the Faces set ☺

I’m doing some more work to reduce shimmering (which will slow down the render speed considerably), but once that’s done, they will be ready for the Spleen. As a general question to everyone, which is preferred: a scope MKV or BD-compliant file?

I use Handbrake to create h.264 encodes, but I’m almost positive that it cannot create BD-compliant files…

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#1086910
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nightstalkerpoet said:

That, my friend, looks beautiful. It has that nostalgic home video feel. I honestly would love to have VHS audio captures included with this, then I’d really feel like a kid again.

I still have the Faces VHS set, and a prosumer VHS deck. Perhaps I can try and rip the audio in PCM…

Here are three more previews from each of the OT films.

ANH (Binary Sunset):

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B1-W6ByLSZVKMUtUYTFUYkRzOUk

TESB (“This is Rogue Two”):

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B1-W6ByLSZVKNnpDNl9SekVHMVU

ROTJ (Sail Barge Assault):

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B1-W6ByLSZVKREJuMVppZWNxblE

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#1086709
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I see what you’re getting at, and I will amend that in my scripts – thank you very much for pointing that out! Because I’m working in the PAL DV PAR, my resolution is 1280x580. I can set the flags in my NLE to display it correctly, but I’d rather not switch to square PAR, as I might mess up somehow.

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#1086706
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I’ve found a very subtle “DeHalo” plugin to deal with the obvious EE for GOUT ANH. For ESB and ROTJ, I wonder if I should apply the same script to the films (with varying GOUT sync fixes) – as they all have lots of aliasing and EE, though it may be less severe compared to ANH.

yotsuya said:

Good choice using the UK GOUT. Don’t forget to find and insert the last frame of Reel 5 from the US GOUT in ROTJ.

My current script for ROTJ duplicates the prior frame where the missing frame should be. Once I finish procuring the NTSC version of ROTJ, I will drop it in… and voila!

Also, I kept QTGMC in my script, but used the progressive version of the tool – as it reduced the grain in the image, and also reduced shimmering in the video. It does not discard a field, unlike in my first iteration of the script. Paired with EEDI2, about 80-90% of the aliasing is taken care of, but some minor flaws will still be present.

With QTGMC applied:

No QTGMC applied:

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#1086550
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Thank you for your assistance. I took your advice by solely using QTGMC with the Progressive input setting, but there was still aliasing – so will do some more testing. Didn’t realize that eedi2 discarded a field either, as I was under the impression that it was simply for interpreting the missing field – not discarding it; I could very well be wrong, though.

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#1086502
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FINAL AVISYNTH SCRIPTS WILL BE IN THIS FIRST POST

Welcome to the ROTGOUT (Return of the “George’s Original Unaltered Trilogy”) preservation & restoration thread!

Utilizing the PAL GOUT DVDs, I have created BD-compliant 720p encodes of the films, paired with GOUT-sycned LaserDisc audio. Each film in the trilogy has been given a basic cleanup via Avisynth (anti-aliasing, minimal noise removal, and color correction) and upscaled to 720p. Overall, this is still very much the GOUT, but with minor enhancements and uncompressed audio. These files are NTSC GOUT synced, so you can mux in any other mixes you want might.

This is V1 that includes burnt-in alien subtitles, LPCM audio (sourced from the 1993 LaserDiscs), and BD-compliant 720p video. I do not plan to make multiple iterations of these, but if there are any errors, I will revise them for TESB and ROTJ.

I am aware that TeamBlu already made their upscale of the ANH GOUT, but this is a very different project. I’m utilizing the PAL discs (for increased resolution for ESB/ROTJ) and syncing them to the NTSC GOUT rips, and then doing very basic one-pass fix in AviSynth. The final product will look better than the actual GOUT originally did, but I do want to preserve the look and feel of the GOUT – as it’s my personal favorite home video transfer of the OOT, despite being so flawed.

Here’s my current AviSynth script for ANH (Final):

Mpeg2Source(“ANH.d2v”) #GOUT Sync
AssumeFPS(24000,1001) #GOUT Sync
DeleteFrame(144053) #GOUT Sync
Crop(0,124,0,-126,align=true) #Crop Black Bars
Levels(10,1.08,255,0,255).Tweak(hue=-6) #Black Level & Gamma
eedi2() #AA
QTGMC(Preset=“Medium”, InputType=1) #Noise Removal and Additional AA
Lanczos4Resize(1280, 542) #Scale to 720p Square

ESB (Final)

Mpeg2Source(“ESB.d2v”) #GOUT Sync
AssumeFPS(24000,1001) #GOUT Sync
DeleteFrame(150204,150205) #GOUT Sync
Crop(0,124,0,-126,align=true) #Crop Black Bars
chroma=last
a=trim(chroma,0,90887)
b=trim(chroma,90888,96324).ChromaShift(C=2)
c=trim(chroma,96325,96446)
d=trim(chroma,96447,96650).ChromaShift(C=2)
e=trim(chroma,96651,96945)
f=trim(chroma,96946,97040).ChromaShift(C=2)
g=trim(chroma,97041,97529)
h=trim(chroma,97530,106132).ChromaShift(C=2)
i=trim(chroma,106133,129145)
j=trim(chroma,129146,129574).ChromaShift(C=2)
k=trim(chroma,129575,150203)
l=trim(chroma,150204,155767).ChromaShift(C=2)
m=trim(chroma,155768,155837)
n=trim(chroma,155838,159587).ChromaShift(C=2)
o=trim(chroma,159588,159652)
p=trim(chroma,159653,163075).ChromaShift(C=2)
q=trim(chroma,163076,163145)
r=trim(chroma,163146,165306).ChromaShift(C=2)
s=trim(chroma,165307,165516)
t=trim(chroma,165517,166149).ChromaShift(C=2)
u=trim(chroma,166150,166213)
v=trim(chroma,166214,168066).ChromaShift(C=2)
w=trim(chroma,168067,168236)
x=trim(chroma,168237,168761).ChromaShift(C=2)
y=trim(chroma,168762,168849)
z=trim(chroma,168850,169402).ChromaShift(C=2)
z2=trim(chroma,169403,169484)
z3=trim(chroma,169485,169928).ChromaShift(C=2)
z4=trim(chroma,169929,170763)
z5=trim(chroma,170764,170858).ChromaShift(C=2)
z6=trim(chroma,170859,170978)
z7=trim(chroma,170979,172852).ChromaShift(C=2)
z8=trim(chroma,172853,0)
a+b+c+d+e+f+g+h+i+j+k+l+m+n+o+p+q+r+s+t+u+v+w+x+y+z+z2+z3+z4+z5+z6+z7+z8
Levels(10,1.08,255,0,255).Tweak(hue=-6) #Black Level & Gamma
eedi2() #AA
QTGMC(Preset=“Medium”, InputType=1) #Noise Removal and Additional AA
Lanczos4Resize(1280, 542) #Scale to 720p Square

ROTJ (Final):

Mpeg2Source(“ROTJ.d2v”) #GOUT Sync
AssumeFPS(24000,1001) #GOUT Sync
DuplicateFrame(141781) #GOUT Sync
DeleteFrame(68664,68665) #GOUT Sync
Crop(0,124,0,-126,align=true) #Crop Black Bars
Levels(10,1.08,255,0,255).Tweak(hue=-6) #Black Level & Gamma
eedi2() #AA
QTGMC(Preset=“Medium”, InputType=1) #Noise Removal and Additional AA
Lanczos4Resize(1280, 542) #Scale to 720p Square

Special Thanks to:

nightstalkerpoet
gforce
Chewtobacca
althor1138
yotsuya
msycamore
schorman

Comparison (Upscale Only Script vs Filtered/Upscale Script):

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/214272

Final Project Specs:
ANH

VIDEO: 1280x720p H264 23.976 fps
TRACK 1) 2.0 LPCM [English] (1993 Laserdisc mix)

TESB

VIDEO: 1280x720p H264 23.976 fps
TRACK 1) 2.0 LPCM [English] (1993 Laserdisc mix)

ROTJ

VIDEO: 1280x720p H264 23.976 fps
TRACK 1) 2.0 LPCM [English] (1993 Laserdisc mix)

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