Alright let's build up an Executor model so we can film that flying over instead, shall we?! :p
All you people doubting that it's not the Executor, you've all got to be kidding me?! Why the hell would that be a flyover shot obscuring all those other other SD's with another SD?! I've known that was the Executor from the first time I ever saw that scene. Like others have said, this bickering is pointless!!
Every time I look at the Executor from that angle it just doesn't look right. It's like you're looking under the SSD or something.
Great Hotfile has got your link removed and I can't view the Vimeo clip from a mobile. Wait til I finish work I suppose! :-P
ben_danger said:
Bingowings said:
I'd imagine something like the Wampa attack might have happened even if Mark hadn't improved his face with a car crash.
Wampas are basically Yeti (just as Wookiees are Sasquatch) and the attack riffs the Tuscan scene in the first film (both end with an arm on the ground) just as the Imperials being picked off attacking the reactor to knock out the Rebel spherical weapon mirrors the rebels being picked off attacking the reactor of the imperial spherical weapon in the first film.
The escape pod carrying droids mirrors the landing capsule carrying the probot.
In the lost cut of Star Wars (1977) Luke is looking up at the sky with binoculars and this gets recycled in ESB.
Just something Bingo brought up on another thread about the ANH-ESB relationship.
I find some of these repetitions between the movies quite interesting, as they can be used to address how a character has developed by having them deal with a situation differently.
There are some obvious repetitions between ROTJ and ANH with the Death Star (which really don't achieve this at all), but I was wondering if any events or interactions could be built to repeat constructively?
The only one I could think of first, was to re-edit the SAIL BARGE ASSAULT to mimick the FALCON ESCAPE from bespin. The heroes could just fight and escape on the skiff, and not necessarily destroy jabba and his sail barge (it always felt too much like an overpowering victory romp to me, when that sensation should be saved for the end of the movie). The musical ques could be also be altered so they match the scene from ESB.
Yeah I wouldn't mind that. However, seeing that Leia has still killed Jabba so she could make her escape .... actually I could still go along with that and then perhaps while the party are leaving Tattooine, we have a bunch of Jabba's goons trying to prevent their departure - but again that would be Docking Bay 94 all over again....
About the Easter Egg with a bunch of Nooooooo's, I say do it lol. Just thinking about Vader when Luke falls will be bloody hilarious!
And speaking on the subject of Wampas, wouldn't it have been cool if Ady and Co. recreated that deleted scene to take out some Stormtroopers etc. Could even hire that Vader actor to get a little more involved too.
doubleofive said:
From the script (emphasis mine):
Darth Vader strides purposefully down a Death Star corridor, flanked by Imperial stormtroopers.
VADER: Several fighters have broken off from the main group. Come with me!
Vader's wingman panics at the sight of the oncoming pirate starship and veers radically to one side, colliding with Vader's TIE fighter in the process. Vader's wingman crashes.
The debate is over. ;-)
It's perfectly logical! ;)
Yeah I think it flows pretty well enough. I'd like to see the Executor shown at the start of the film too. :)
And should the movie continue that route it'll be interesting how they can make the briefing scene happen as it will be likely that Luke will be there the entire time now.
Ryan McAvoy said:
ray_afraid said:
Here's the opening of Jedi that I'd love to see. It's quite close to what Possesed is working on for his edit, but still different. I'm no good at posting pics to show exactly what I'm talking about, but I hope you can follow.
Opening text would have to be altered to mention that Luke has returned to Dagobah to continue his training.
After opening text, we pan down to Darth Vaders Super Stardestroyer near the uncompleted Death Star
Cut to Darth Vader in his mediation chamber talking to Luke telepathically through the force urging him to join him on the darkside.
cut to the deleted scene of Luke in the cave working on his new light saber. Edit the exterior of the cave to resemble Dagobah. Luke shakes the voice in his head and continues working and then igniting his saber.
Cut back to the Super Stardestroyer and we see Vader's shuttle leave for the Death Star (why was he leaving from a standard Stardestroyer originally?) continue to the original opening scene with Vader and Jerrod.
After that, cut to Yoda's hut on Dagobah for Yoda's death scene. After Luke says "So I am a Jedi." Cut Yoda's line about having to face Vader again and just cut to him saying "When gone am I, the last of the Jedi will you be." This way we get the idea that Luke has continued and now finished his training with Yoda. Yoda dies, the conversation with Obi-Wan is had and then cut to the Emperors arrival on the Death Star. That scene plays out like normal and then cut to the droids on Tattooine and continue from there.
This would give the beginning of the film a more menacing tone with Vader still haunting Luke and more of a build up to the action at Jabba's palace. Agree? Disagree?
This sounds brilliant would love to see this!!
I too think that would be brilliant to see but if what will need to be addressed is how Luke acts around Leia on Tattooine after having now known that she is his sister. I'm sure Ady has a few aces in his sleeve! :)
Well Ady does intend on coming to a final decision regarding the music in the duel. Whether it still needs to be sped up or not well that too remains to be seen. As for the electric needle I believe that's going along with finding a way to restore that iconic scene with Tarkin and the Death Star exploding.
Well Ady has already made it clear that Threepio will NOT be created by Anakin and we may not see him til ROTS:R where he'll mainly serve Senator Amidala. That pointless scene seeing the Droids in that Droid Factory was just lame as hell!!
As for Yoda well at least with the Bluray release the Muppet form has been replaced with CGI Yoda to match with the rest of the Trilogy.
The underwater transport to the Planet Core gladly will be removed but I wouldn't mind the Gungans staying. At least Ady is already planning to alter Jar Jar's voice not to mention much of his foolish antics.
adywan said:
Kurgan said:
**BATTLE OF HOTH CLIP NOW AVAILABLE**
Link is broken.
Vimeo have deleted it. I got an email from them claiming that i had broken their terms and conditions. I contacted a member of their team to explain that it isn't just a direct clip from a movie, but contained a lot of work done by myself, but got a snarky reply back from them saying "maybe you should start making your own movies instead of playing with other peoples and then the videos wouldn't get deleted". Funny how they haven't touched the three comparison videos i have posted there though.
Wow a snarky comment!! Isn't that rather unprofessional from their part? I wouldn't have taken that lightly - morons!!!!
Ady your personal emails of thanks is all the gratitude I need. Then again I'm sure you will find a way to make it all work. :)
Bingowings said:
Long time readers of this thread will note my loathing of the plastic cluttered ROTJ briefing room with props thrown in just because they existed.
I rather like the ceiling and the podium in this version from the updated X-Wing Alliance game.
Also hoping at the beginning of the briefing scene that we get to see an establishing shot of where the Rebel Fleet are in orbit around Sullust, and hopefully seeing the planet in the background too. Would be awesome as well if we could see all the Rebel ships - A-Wings, B-Wings, Mon Cal ships the lot. And I'm sure there doesn't need to be any music in there either.
aalenfae said:
I think Ronster's idea is really good - and I don't want it to get lost in the sea of posts.
The shot of the artillery hitting the AT-AT leg is really... awkward. And could stand to be replaced. Why not do something more visually exciting... like an exploding AT-ST? That'd be really cool to see on-screen. And maybe you could have an AT-AT in the background, walking forward.
Also, the brightened AT-AT shot is a really good idea, too.
Even if you don't add an interior. Which should be done anyways. It'd match the fact that we can see the interior through the binoculars.
That would be an awesome idea. I've always wished that General Veers' AT-AT be taken down especially with that smug look on his face lol! Why not the Artillery gun taking out his leg instead!? ;)
Bingowings said:
Dak's helmet has always been blue.
His helmet is recycled from the vanishing "blue-squadron" in ANH.
Basically in the first film Luke was originally meant to be Blue 5 but the blue insignia and markings on the models interfered with FX shots so the squadron became red but the shots with blue insignia had already been filmed.
Gold Squadron was the original Red Squadron which may explain this toy:
Ady changed the Blue markings to red in ANH:R but there is still a continuity issue because in the battle only Luke has that insignia in red and all the helmets are distressed and weathered but as you can see these look rather shiny.
Thanks for clearing that up. Still it's definitely no biggie whatsoever, I just thought it odd when I thought the Rebel Insignia was merely red. But not necessarily as it shows. :)
Well once again Ady you and your team never cease to amaze!! The subtle additions of those AT-ST's certainly are amazing!!! However one thing I do wish to query - Dac's helmet appears to have a blue Rebel insignia. Is that intentional or is that a rank thing?
AntcuFaalb said:
FVDnz said:
Well I paid £26 earlier this morning so I guess that brings it down to £250 now? ;)
You shouldn't have posted specific details! Now we know that FVDnz = Fabian Lelo!!!
Meh no harm in it whatsoever. :p
After adding an additional £13 just so I can see the number rounded at £100? Couldn't resist lol! Can it be done by the end of the day? Fingers crossed! :D
Well I paid £26 earlier this morning so I guess that brings it down to £250 now? ;)
NeverarGreat said:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/3690
While most of the corrections are an improvement, this one looks substantially worse. Instead of "mystical swamp", it's "mud puddle with oppressive blue haze".
Does making the Hoth scenes less blue somehow make Dagobah less green and more blue?
That's because the Original Release was blue in the first place. How people seem to envision the look of Dagobah intending it to be green was a misinterpretation in the first place. Even Ady has explained this.
Ah fair point - good call! :-)
In the Clone Wars they seemed to have made the Probe Droids on that a lot more smaller and mobile not to mention the SE droids flying around Mos Eisley being smaller too. I wonder if tying the Saga together, should those Probe Droids in Empire be shrunk down as well? Mind you it would be quite a challenge for Han to shoot the thing if it's smaller and quicker though.
As for a grand reveal of Palpatine in his throne room with prior holographic transmissions, I'm all for it! :-)
And I wonder if they'll also shoot Womprats for bonus points too! ;-)
Wow the T-16 through Beggars Canyon idea sounds fantastic!! Can rid the idea of Pod Racing altogether! And perhaps you wouldn't need too many competitors either.
