But if that was the intention, they would have said “he’s rewritten history” instead of “he’s created an alternate timeline,” no?
Yeah. They used “alternate” thinking everyone would get it. Evidently, somehow, at least one person did not.
Official canon does Trump everything else. We just disagree on whether or not official canon says that the Kelvin timeline overwrites Prime Timeline. It comes down to interpretation of events of Star Trek (2009).
What do you think the words “alternate reality” mean and why do you think they would use those words if what you’re suggesting is true?
That the Kelvin timeline is an alternate universe and doesn’t overwrite the prime timeline.
Official canon says it, the movie says it, Abrams and the writers say it, but you continue to assert that it’s not the case even while arguing that official canon trumps everything else in other cases.
All of this, plus you refuse to accept the possibility in general that time travel can create an alternate universe
I do that because the idea doesn’t make sense to me.
(which, might actually the most likely scenario, were time travel to actually exist).
It is? I disagree. I think if time travel were to actually exist, it would work like we see in Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban.
I think that is also very possible. What certainly is not possible is that time travel would just overwrite an existing timeline, which is what you are suggesting.
That the Kelvin timeline is an alternate universe and doesn’t overwrite the prime timeline.
Official canon says it, the movie says it, Abrams and the writers say it, but you continue to assert that it’s not the case even while arguing that official canon trumps everything else in other cases.
All of this, plus you refuse to accept the possibility in general that time travel can create an alternate universe (which, might actually the most likely scenario, were time travel to actually exist).
Is there reason to believe Poe didn’t eject? I don’t see why it’s too hard to believe they didn’t find him, especially considering they probably stopped looking once they spotted BB-8.
I think Tekka’s ribbing about Ren’s family pissed him off, so he killed Tekka in anger without really thinking about it. He probably assumed he could search the village and find some clues, then Poe appeared and he figured Tekka gave Poe the map and thought “Oh, cool, I didn’t fuck up that bad” and took Poe to interrogate him.
That’s my 2¢, anyway.
I think it’s kinda that, but I think it’s also possible he’s aware that killing Tekka might draw out any lurking Resistance heroes - which is of course exactly what it does.
Holy fucking shit warb this is insane, even for you.
what?
Reading your responses here makes me want to smash my head into a brick wall until my head isn’t there anymore.
But why?
Your staunch refusal to accept plain facts.
Holy fucking shit warb this is insane, even for you.
what?
Reading your responses here makes me want to smash my head into a brick wall until my head isn’t there anymore.
Poe says he woke up at night and didn’t see Finn or the ship. I always took that to mean after Finn had left (and the TIE sunk). That seems to be the implication anyway.
Holy fucking shit warb this is insane, even for you.
How is all manners of blood and violence “family friendly” but saying something is “fucking awesome” not?
Trek could get violent, but I don’t know if I’d say it ever got gratuitously violent. Even an episode with brutal torture scenes like “Chain of Command” was in the service of some kind of sociopolitical commentary or something. It was rare to see sex or violence on it which wasn’t narratively justified or was incredibly shocking just for the sake of shock value. I can’t think of any examples offhand.
I was actually referring to the first couple episodes which, while not excessively violent, are still pretty violent.
I’ve found, in color grading AOTC, it’s pretty easy to get rid of the green spill by just reducing green saturation. The bigger issue with the shots, I think, is clunky compositing.
The sequels will adopt a different, but similar, naming convention - Lando’s Revenge: A Han Solo Story.
I was going to complain about my girlfriend dumping me but reading this section got me thinking that is not really an problem, just another chapter in the book. Shit happens. Some other girl will come.
It just occurred to me recently that my girlfriend broke up with me a little over a year ago now, which seems crazy to me but just goes to show how much time flies. I was pretty broken up about it for a bit but I did get over it (as everyone does, eventually). Point being, it doesn’t feel like I’ve been single that long just because I guess came to not care.
There’s a lot more to life than romantic relationships, and they’re good when they’re good, but it’s also great to have time with just yourself and don’t have to worry about the rest of it. So I feel you man, it sucks, but see the positive in this, take some time to be single, and when, like you said, another girl comes, another girl comes. Until then, no worries.
My MoviePass card finally arrived this week, so I’ll be going to the movies a whole lot more often. I plan on finally getting to It and rewatching Blade Runner 2049 soon.
I have a few friends who got those cards, has worked well for them. Sadly I rarely go to the movies, and love IMAX, so it is not a good fit for me.
See, the closest IMAX screen is something like 45 minutes away, and meanwhile I have two non-IMAX theaters within ten minutes of my house, so I’m an ideal candidate.
I go to the movies about once a week, and I probably have at least 10 movie theaters in as many miles of where I live now, so when they dropped their price, it was a no-brainer.
I do love IMAX though, and there are a lot of those nearby too (and Dolby Atmos theaters), so if they add a premium option to the pass I’ll probably bite.
Star Wars is the best movie of the franchise.
The Empire Strikes Back is the best Star Wars movie of the franchise.Which one you prefer says a lot about how much of a Star Wars fan you are vs simply liking good movies.
You know, I never thought of it that way, but you’re probably right.
My dream job would be to work for Criterion/Arrow/Shout someday. Something to do with film restoration. Not sure how to go about that.
Kinda annoying, but first step would be to be where they’re located.
Just as a test, here’s the beginning of the sail barge sequence with flipped shots put back:
https://vimeo.com/238829311
It’s more jarring than the original, without a doubt. Although, I do like that Mark Hamill’s face is flipped back to normal now. I think that’s the main giveaway.Can’t say I found any issue with those shots flipped back, I followed along fine with where the barge was heading and the other ships location to it.
.Val
I believe that because we are so familiar with these scenes we feel like we can follow it fine with shots flipped back, but that’s like being able to walk along a well-known trail without having to watch every step we make because we’ve walked it so often.
If the movie were released with those shots unflipped, it would have hurt more than helped upon a first viewing.
A great example of showing how important the 180 degree rule is, is to watch the “film” that plays at the end of Super 8, the one made by the kid characters. There are intentional breaks of the 180 rule to make it feel like a true amateur film made by kids.
I’ve seen Super 8 a number of times and can’t honestly say I ever noticed anything about this.
I’m not disputing the validity of the 180 rule but I think that maybe editors could fall into habit after using it a lot and end up applying it often when it’s not actually needed.
That’s not really how it works. The director is the one paying attention to the 180 rule. The editors aren’t going through checking to make sure every scene adheres (and not every scene should). Flipping a shot to fix 180 only happens if they feel a sequence isn’t flowing properly. Most of the flips here aren’t even about 180, though, they’re more about maintaining a coherent spatial geography.
Regardless, this discussion is pointless, as ady has already weighed in.
If there’s a way to fix the green screen that should be the main priority of that scene.
Also the real reason Mark looks weird in that scene is his make up. This is true for the unflipped version as well.
I’m not defending the f-bomb, seemed pretty random and unnecessary, but I just don’t see the big deal. Kids are going to hear those words one way or another, can’t escape it. Who gives a fuck, as long as you teach them right.
It’s not just for her. It’s for me. It annoyed me because it added nothing. There was no point to it at all other than for shock value. I hate it when streamed shows add “mature” content for the sake of being “edgy”. It’s actually immature. It’s like a child doing things deliberately because their parents won’t find out.
I wouldn’t even call it edgy. The phrase that was used, unless I’m misremembering, was “that’s fucking awesome.” It was used in an incredibly pedestrian way. I don’t think maturity even plays into it, the truth is that’s just how many people talk.
I personally didn’t find it out of place because it seemed forced and “edgy”, I found it out of place because it’s Star Trek. Ultimately, as with most things on this show I don’t give a shit, and I think it’s silly to get worked up over a little word, but yeah it was kind of random to see on Star Trek. Maybe if this show was actually adult and serious in ways beyond just mere surface details, it would have worked better.
I’m not defending the f-bomb, seemed pretty random and unnecessary, but I just don’t see the big deal. Kids are going to hear those words one way or another, can’t escape it. Who gives a fuck, as long as you teach them right.
As for our prudish attitudes toward sex, I think it’s pretty ridiculous that we allow our children to become to desensitized to violence at a young age, but grow up overly sensitive to the idea of sex, which is just a natural and unharmful thing.
But whatever, I don’t have kids so don’t listen to me.
Just as a test, here’s the beginning of the sail barge sequence with flipped shots put back:
https://vimeo.com/238829311
It’s more jarring than the original, without a doubt. Although, I do like that Mark Hamill’s face is flipped back to normal now. I think that’s the main giveaway.Can’t say I found any issue with those shots flipped back, I followed along fine with where the barge was heading and the other ships location to it.
.Val
I quite agree. The viewer can follow the action just fine, and quite frankly I’m seriously struggling to see why it was flipped in the first place, as IMHO this version is infinitely superior. The only possible quibble from pedants I can see is that when they finally arrive at the Sarlacc the skiffs are now on the barge’s left side instead of the right, but since they’re all flying vehicles with vast space around them on all sides, and we don’t witness the entire trip, surely it’s not beyond the wit of the viewer to assume the skiff moved to the other side at some point before the journey’s end? Donald Trump might struggle to understand it, but regular humans with at least double-digit IQs won’t. I didn’t watch that clip and think, ‘My God! The skiff’s teleported!’
so, you find those who will watch the movie as edited and released to be the pedants, and those who want to ‘unflip’ all shots because it is driving them crazy to not be the pedants?
Well since that’s not what I said, no I don’t.
Seemed pretty spot on to me.
Didn’t expect adywan to get compared to Donald Trump today, crazy world we live in.
How is all manners of blood and violence “family friendly” but saying something is “fucking awesome” not?
Marcia Lucas, total dumb duck am I right?