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#1063918
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Should the Prequels be more included into the franchise going forward?
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As splitting between fans as the prequels were, do they really deserve to be forgotten acts of the past?

Although lacking in everything from memorable, impactful characters and story to practicality, there were elements and designs and originality, that here and there this new franchise is certainly lacking. Not to mention, they are part of George Lucas’s vision for the franchise as a whole, and one does not spit on the creation of the man behind it all.

I, for once, grew up with watching the OT and Prequels simultaneously for the first time in 1997 through 2005, as a little kid and into puberty.

Nostalgia is a part of all our lifes; and it might be time to put our egos and judgements to the side, and accept the fact that there are kids out there who - for them - the Prequels are just as important for them as the OT may be for you. Do they not deserve the chance to walk down memory lane with stories and references from their favorite moments? Stories, that through the developing eyes of others, could bring us all closure and satisfaction from all times and periods of the Star Wars franchise?

After all, let’s not forget that in the end we are all just Star Wars fans by heart.

What do you think?

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#1062595
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The Force Awakens: Official Review Thread - ** SPOILERS **
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I don’t want to dislike this movie, but I just can’t get past its complete lack of originality and boring main characters - not in the way that I don’t like them as people, they’re just not very engaging.

I’ve seen TFA four times now, and it bores me more and more from the middle act and out every time I watch it.

I do hope that THE LAST JEDI tries something new - like, uhm, NEW FUCKING IDEAS, and some new technology and unfamiliar planet designs, and I might actually feel good about the future of this franchise.

I do hate to be one of those unsatisfied Star Wars fans, but when I get a film that gives me nothing new, retreads the same plot as the OT, and I don’t even wheep at Han Solo’s climatic death, the movie did something terribly wrong. And for that, it’s an unforgiven installment, and a rip-off.

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#929236
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STAR WARS - Episode I : The Ancient Lore [TPM Remade]
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In the works for over two years now at Fanedit.org, i present Episode I; The Ancient Lore.

Episode I is the best-looking of the three prequels, with a lot of devotion put into them from both the crew, actors as well as the director himself before he went all ludacris on Digital Moviemaking. It is also the most dull of the three prequels, with little to no character motivation or even plot explanation. It had to be remade.

The Ancient Lore’s narrative does not resemble anything close to what you have seen before. It is completely new, and with that a completely new beginning.

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/////// VIDEO PREVIEWS /////////////////
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THE ANCIENT LORE’S TRAILER : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7pa7CNSIMI

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BRAND NEW 7-MINUTE PREVIEW CLIPS : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH7wznxvDVI

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/////// CHANGES & ALTERATIONS:: ////////
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  • There are many new visual effects, and many alterations to both audio (voice and alien language) as well as music and sound effects.
  • Appearances of Lord Sidious will have his hologram face hidden for start of the movie to create mystery. Voice altered when in hologram form, and new plot points given.
  • The Nemodians (Nute Gunray & Co.) now speak in foreign Alien language, to give of new and menacing voices, as well as completely new plot points for the story.
  • The Purple saber of Mace Windu will be removed in my trilogy, and given to Qui-Gon. It makes him more important, and fits his rogue style as he choses not to be on the Jedi Council. Mace Windu will get green.
  • Jar-Jar Binks has a new voice.
  • Battle Droids has a new voice.
  • Jar-Jar Binks will serve as comic relief, although appearances or voice from him that diminish an important character or story moment, will be removed or decreased.
  • Qui-Gon is the main character of the story. Obi-Wan and Anakin are sidecharacters that will get to shine a little bit throughout, but are part of a bigger puzzle to occur in the later entries of the trilogy.
  • Story narrative completely altered. The beginning of the movie in the Trade Federation Ship now takes place in the middle of the movie, and the story now starts with a Space chase, Naboo and the saving of the Queen.

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/////// THE PLOT IS AS FOLLOWS:: ///////
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Dispatched by the Jedi Council, Jedi Master Qui-Gon Jin and his Padawan Obi-Wan Kenobi is on a highly important mission to the planet of Meera in the Naboo system, to find and secure the Queen of Naboo herself, after having received intel on invasion plans from the presumed, Rpublic-friendly The Trade Federation. They are revealed to be co-operating with dark forces not known to the Jedi Council nor the Republic, having killed Senators, Queens and Politicians for years, overtaking their planets and intelligence.

As The Trade Federation is revealed to be creating Droid Armies - with one already in possession, the goal is to invade the planet of Naboo, control the Queen until she is no longer needed, and then execute her.

As the Jedi are soon to figure out, the Queen has just left the planet of Meera after finishing up political business, and is back on Naboo. [Now, this is where the edit picks up and we are brought right into the action after the opening crawl.] Unbeknownst to her this entire plot is in motion - though suspicious, but not before the communcation is shut down does she realize that her planet is under attack.

The Nemodians have gathered political supporters, systems, planets - and most importantly - techonology and intelligence - through the co-operation with Palpatine, aka. Lord Sidious, for years. Naboo is the movie’s target for invasion, because this is where Palpatine sees fit to create his Clone Army; Naboo has everything they need - the huge space travel gap between them and the Republic, and all the resources needed. But this plot is not known to anyone but the Nemodians and Palpatine himself, which is something they only discuss in great secrecy.

It is not before the defeat of The Trade Federation (the separtists) on the Planet of Naboo, that Sheev Palpatine realizes his recklessness and executes his plans far beyond the reach of the Republic, in the dark corner of the galaxy on the planet of Kaminoo, with the help of corrupted Master Syfo-Dius and Count Dooku - plotting for even more years to come - which is what leads into Attack of the Clones.[/SIZE]

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#767114
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Star Wars : Episode I - The Ancient Lore [Episode I - REMAKE]
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Star Wars - Episode I: The Ancient Lore

Episode I is the best-looking of the three prequels, with a lot of devotion put into them from both the crew, actors as well as the director himself before he went all ludacris on Digital moviemaking. It is also the most dull of the three prequels, with little to no character banter or real character development. It has to be remade.

[The Plan]


Moving on from my Harry Potter Revisited franchise, It was time to rework one of my other childhood memories. One that lacked a good story and good surprises and villains. For those who know me by now, you know I don't do with only editing pace or lines or simple cutting. I really change everything. Mattepaintings, music, sound effects, visual treatments you name it.

The Phantom Menace will not resemble anything close to what you have seen before. There is a completely new narrative and structure to the story, and with that a completely new beginning, middle and end.

[PREVIEWS]

Master and Apprentice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jOSJ1st5nw&feature=youtu.be


The Hunt for the Sith Lord

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uhjb5IugDYg4


Nemodians talk to their Lord - Beta
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryfJeaja6So

Qui-Gon - The Rogue Jedi Knight, saving the Queen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgjPxOgTLSI

[The Changes]

- There are many new visual effects, and many alterations to both audio (voice and alien language) as well as music and sound effects.
- Appearances of Lord Sidious will have his hologram face hidden, as well as his one real-life appearance with Maul, as well as voice altered and new plot points given.
- The Nemodians (Nute Gunray & Co.) now speak in foreign Alien language, to give of new and menacing voices, as well as completely new plot points for the story.
- The Purple saber of Mace Windu will be removed in my trilogy, and given to Qui-Gon. It makes him more important, and fits his rogue style as he choses not to be on the Jedi Council. Mace Windu will get green.
- Jar-Jar Binks has a new voice.
- Battle Droids has a new voice.
- Jar-Jar Binks will serve as comic relief, although appearances or voice from him that diminish an important character or story moment, will be removed or decreased.
- Qui-Gon is the main character of the story. Obi-Wan and Anakin are sidecharacters that will get to shine a little bit throughout, but are part of a bigger puzzle to occur in the later entries of the trilogy.
- Story narrative completely altered. The beginning of the movie in the Trade Federation Ship now takes place in the middle of the movie, and the story now starts with a Space chase, Naboo and the saving of the Queen.

The original thread is over at fanedits.org, so if you want to follow this closely you'll find my thread over there. :)

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#729041
Topic
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone [Revisited] (Released)
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Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone [Revisited]

Harry Potter 1 & 2 are respectively out of date and non-consistent with the rest of the series. When Alfonso Quaron took over the helmet in the Prisoner of Azkaban he gave the series what they so desperately needed: a gritty, realistic atmosphere in an elsewhere magical fantasyworld. He grounded the series! I am literally here to take Alfonson’s approach to PS and CoS as well as to touch upon the two movies with new sfx, music, effects and colors.

[1: Problems]

The biggest problems with the two movies are useless scenes adapted from the book that just doesn’t work in a movie perspective with its poor execution of storytelling (here, mostly referring to Chamber of Secrets) and the complete lack of pacing.

The movies need a more cohesive tone to both of them to follow along with the rest, as the tone of the first two movies are quite, quite different from the rest of the series. They resemble innocent fun and a bright, bright world with no worries but pure joy, yet the story is very dark. This is for many reasons very wrong. When you take into account that there is a dark story laying underneath it all that should be told as it is; dark, I find it a crucial step to develop a more gritty and realistic atmosphere to the Sorcerer’s Stone and the Chamber of Secrets, as well as to clean and pace both of them up in terms of picture, sound and storytelling. With these problems away, the movies should deliver some great and gritty, well-paced adventure!

Let’s remaster this magic!

The Goal

My goal is to revisit these two movies, starting with the Sorcerer’s Stone. I have six years of editing and effect experience to improve upon every single scene, until it is pitch perfect and fit with my needy needs, and add up with a continuity that is required for a series.

I will continuously update this post and thread with videos, pictures and information about the editing process. I will also ask for feedback, and I am always open for ideas and input. You are truly welcome to take part in this process with me!

Videos and Pictures

https://vimeo.com/104131912 | https://vimeo.com/104514869

**Changelist

Entire movie is color corrected to fit the visual tone of the rest of the series. All bright and golden colors are now absent and color palette replaced with a slight blue/green-darker one resembling that of Prisoner of Azkaban and Goblet of Fire.

Much of the movie is re-scored and integrated with new sound effects.

Private Drive & the arrival of the three Wizards and Baby Harry is removed, leading to;

The entire opening is re-imagined and re-made to set a new tone and develop a more engaging story. Why start the movie with magic if the magic is not yet explored? We follow the eyes of Harry here.

A flashback-sequence to Grimmold’s Place is incorporated as a nightmare to which Harry wakes up to (can be seen in the opening sequence up above).

Trimmed Dudley & Harry “going to the zoo” sequence in the stairs simply for pacing; Dudley doesn’t run down the stairs and then back up again before starting to jump.

Soundtrack added to Harry & Vernon “Any funny business, any at all…” outside the car. This sets the tone for how Harry really feel in the company of the Dursleys and also how the audience should feel. He has been, and is being, treated poorly and this never comes across like i feel it should. Now I’ve changed that. It comes across through an emotional, yet very subtle soundtrack from Half-Blood Prince during one of Harry & Dumbledore’s last conversations (“I can still see the small boy from the cupboard…”). This is also to strengthen that scene when it shows up five movies from now.

New soundtrack and sfx added to Zoo-Snake sequence, as well as a new glasswindow effect. This is the first time we see Harry use magic and to me it felt like it should be a gamechanger. Now it comes across like that in a very thematic way.

“There’s no such thing as magic”-sequence is altered with music, tone and sfx.

SFX added when Owls gather outside Private Drive.

“The Hut in the Ocean” has been heavily altered, scene by scene, with a new color palette. New SFX at slow or bad parts as well.

A subtle, but emotionally powerful soundtrack is playing when Harry is given his birthday cake from Hagrid. This is the beginning of a great friendship, and the first time ever that Harry gets a gift given to him. It’s actually a strong scene.

Hutscene altered with sfx, music, effects and toneset. As Harry’s past is slowly revealed to him by Hagrid the tone develops properly with it. This scene is strictly beautiful now and very emotional. Harry leaving his old world behind and deciding to go with Hagrid has been altered with a new and beautiful soundtrack. This scene should’nt just be a gamechanger, it should feel like it. Also new background SFX due to audio alterations.

Harry & Hagrid on train to London was reincorporated into the movie from Deleted Scenes. Removed it again due to pacing, and the fact that the dragon subplot is completely removed from this fanedit.

The Leaky Cauldron/The Inn is better paced and much more amusing and thematic. One of the many problems of the theatrical was it’s poor cinematography and tone in all the quiet places.

All overlong shots of both the Inn, Diagon Alley, Ollivander’s Wandshop, Gryffindor Common room, The Great Hall etc have been altered and trimmed. There are some many weird, long shots in this movie. This is finally fixed upon now and helps give the movie a better-paced feel as we explore the world of Harry Potter.

Gringotts introduction sequence altered with completely new music and sound effects, including a minor part of the old for nostalgia.

Gringotts underworld scenes have been altered with sinister music. The theatrical score is too much on an upbeat opposite the color and tone set in this re-visitation, and therefore many such changes are necessary.

The reveal of Harry’s vault now has an overwhelming, exploding kinda feel to it. New SFX. We should all be ‘Holy shee-’ at this reveal. Now we feel it in our guts.

The Sorcerer’s Stone is now glooming slightly red from underneath the paper to make the object more significant and also give Harry’s assumptions about “the object Hagrid took from vault 713” more meaning.

Olivander’s wandshop is altered. This sequence, as Diagon Alley, has been re-colored throughly. A very important scene, maybe the most important and impactful scene of the series.

Olivander’s Wandshop sequence has been changed. Harry now tries one more extra wand (3 in total) instead of 2 (theatrical). There is also traces of upcoming thematic themes, such as Voldemort’s theme (from both GoF and DH) and Secrets of the Castle. All very subtle, but enough to help create the series thematic narrative. It’s also much tighter edited for pacing.

Harry touching his wand (we are all thinking it…) for the first time is now accompanied by a bass.

Hagrid telling about Lord Voldemort is altered. Flashback-sequence heavily altered with a complete, new sfx and soundtrack as well as much new footage. And, of course, stars Harry’s father which I deem crucial!

Harry & Hagrid “What happened to Voldemort?” - “I reckon he’s still out there…,” is removed. It is a big clichè and a big mistake to let the audience know the antagonist’s fate this early on. It is ment to build suspense, but what it does is always to diminish it. The audience knowing nothing about Lord Voldemort’s whereabouts, mostly assuming he’s dead or gone for the movie, will give the reveal of his existence so much more impact and be so much more sinister.

Professor Quirell and Harry’s handshake moment is removed. They meet, they say goodbye. The whole “not that you need it, eh, P-p-otter,” was poorly executed and therefore very awkward. Also, a soundtrack is slighty added and altered to the scene to make the entire Inn (and subconsciously Quirell both) feel suspicious to the audience. Not anything obvious of course that would diminish the entire plot twist of the movie, just give it more sense.

Diagon Alley entrance re-scored with both music and sound effects. The brickwall opening a gateway to something Harry did not yet know of should be as intimidating as exciting, therefore the change. I still want the audience to feel what Harry feels as well as to keep track with the overall thematic tone of the movie now set, which is now grittier, yet still exploratory and wonderful.

Diagon Alley completely re-colored, almost scene by scene. The original had so many colors and awkward blooms I had to pick them off one by one.

Apparition-sound added a few seconds after Hagrid leaves screen at King’s Cross “hold on to ya’r ticket, 'arry”.
Entrance to Platform 9 3/4 sequence is altered.

Trainsequence is altered and trimmed. These sequences are simply too long and we are on overdue. No candyeating!
Hermione introduction altered. A slight comedic soundtrack added. Harry & Ron are literally thinking “this girl is crazily high on herself”, and she is, so let’s play with the audiences feelings a little more. It gives her introduction more power.

Hogwarts reveal altered.

First “Inside the Castle” is altered with new music at one part.

Neville losing his toad and interrupting McGonagall is removed.

Draco Malfoy introduction removed. It felt forced. These boys should not be rivals by some straight-forward dialog literally saying “chose the dark or light side, harry, and if light, we’re not friends,” but rather by showing it. The good ol’ show, do not tell approach always wins as it does not take the audience for a fool.

Draco Malfoy being chosen to Slytherin house is altered, so is the introduction to Snape, and Harry’s burning scar. Much more impactful scenes now.

Impact SFX added when the Sorting Hat is placed on Harry.

“John Cleese” and Ghosts floating around The Great Hall is all removed. Bad CGI, unecessary drag and it’s time to get this movie’s plot started already. I had it in for some time with certain alterations to the ghosts to make them look more natural, but in the end It felt right to remove this sequence.

Harry looking at the nightsky in the Common Room with Hedwig by his side, beautiful as this scene is from beforehand, now also has “A window to the past” playing before transitioning over to the original Harry’s theme. Two big soundtracks that in many ways define Harry’s growth, and what he feels deep inside.

Potion sequence deleted. Reasons are stated on Page 11 (on fanedit.org thread).

Voldemort’s theme added when the 3 friends read the Daily Prophet about the Gringotts robbery.

New transition shot added.

Courtyard Broomstick Practice with Madam Hooch is heavily altered.

Harry meeting Oliver Wood, accompanied by McGonagall, is better paced and altered with a soundtrack.

Sinister music (“Dumbledore’s Speech”) added when the 3 friends are traveling through Hogwarts at night, before visiting the third floor.

The Third floor heavily altered. The reveal of the Three-Headed-Dog much more impactful. The animal looks more natural now than CGI-heavy. Keyframed and edited.

New Transition shot between previous sequence and next one;
The 3 friends discussing the dog and what just transpired, is altered. New sfx, new music and overall much of a more menacing and worrying scene.

New transition shot when “The Troll” is revealed to be lurking in the dungeons and the Prefects take the students to their Common Room.

SFX added when Harry & Ron see the Troll.

Some new SFX added for the troll.

Removed some of the dumb and unecessary “hammer-dodging” from Harry while grabbed by the troll.

Hermione doesn’t dumb up and yell “Swish and Flick!”.

New soundtrack added for when the teachers arrive.

Suspicious music for when Harry sees Snape’s leg.

A subtle Voldemort’s Theme added at “Last night, I’m guessing Snape let the dog in as a diversion”.

Quidditch Match heavily color corrected.

Some musical bits have been altered and replaced with the Quidditch Match soundtrack from the third movie.

Quidditch Match much better paced.

New Christmas Theme and SFX in the transition shot.

The Invisibility Cloak :: new soundtrack to create a connection with the Deathly Hallows.

The Forbidden Section in the Library :: altered.

SFX added to Door being opened and closed when Harry enters the room to the Mirror of Erised.

New soundtrack added to that sequence.

Removed Ron’s introduction to the mirror. Destroyed the emotional pace I wanted for these sequences.

Deleted Scene re-incorporated.

New SFX and soundtrack added to the second time Harry visits the mirror.

New SFX and soundtrack for the transition shot to Spring. Strictly beautiful.

“Visiting Hagrid’s hut”. Dragon and it’s subplot is removed.

When the three friends see Malfoy, they panic and go back to the castle. It’s all better paced.

Next scene, in the castle, prolonged with one second as we need a slower transition between these two scenes. The bird now beeps twice before camera pans, though the background is keyframed to behave as if no change was made.

Completely new SFX and soundtrack added to Filtch escorting the kids to Hagrid’s hut for their punishment. It’s pretty darn scary now.

The Forbidden Forest heavily altered.

The Unicorn now groans in pain as Harry and Draco see Voldemort drinking blood from it.

The encounter with Voldemort altered. Very scary now. Parseltoungue can also be heard as Harry touches his scar.

Voldemort’s sharkteeth are removed. He doesn’t have those later on in the movie or series, so let’s friggin remove it. Looked ridiciolous.

Voldemort doesn’t growl like a beast because he isn’t one.

Voldemort can be heard saying “Kill him!” to Quirell as Harry looks away. Creates a more realistic dynamic between Quirell and Voldemort, and also builds meaning to the fact that there are actually two persons there underneath the dark hood, not just one. Gives the Two-Headed reveal more meaning at the end.

The Unicorn saving Harry (“Florence”) is altered. He comes faster into the frame and out of it, to show Voldemort’s escape as quicker and more realistic to the audience. It looked very staged in the original.

The 3 Friends discussing Voldemort’s apperance in the Forbidden Forest is altered.

Removed the 3 Friends visiting Hagrid and Hagrid being dumbed-down for like the fifth time throughout the original movie and tell them everything they need to know. This subplot isn’t even really needed for the movie to work.

Asking for Dumbledore-sequence is altered. They ask McGonagall, get told to retreat but instead the three friends decide to go down the trapped door immediately after. This also leads to my next change;

Removed scene with Snape (this is saddening, but the scene was pretty bad and it completely destroyed the pace I was looking for).

Neville confronts the friends. Music altered.

The 3 Friends walk down to the Third floor. Music altered.

Harp is already playing. We didn’t need the dumbed-down Hagrid flute subplot for this to have an affect.
Devil’s Snare sequence heavily altered. Much, much more intense.

New music to the Flying Keys-challenge.

Not a new change, but worth noting; No changes were made, except for color and some minor SFX changes, to the Key-and Chesschallenges. They worked pretty good as they were made for the original, and held up well with the tone and suspense built throughout this edit.

Harry & Hermione’s theme from Half-Blood Prince added when they talk together before Harry’s last task.

Voldemort’s Theme added throughout Voldemort Confrontation.

Some of Quirell’s overly explanatory dialogue is removed. We’re not idiots, and some of it isn’t even needed to be told.

SFX added when Voldemort speak for the first time from underneath the turban.

A gut-wrenching flashback sequence is added to when Voldemort’s face is revealed.

SFX added to when Harry says ‘Voldemort’. Now we know. Our fears have come true.

Lily’s theme sublty added to when Harry sees his parents in the mirrory flames.

Ending completely re-arranged. It’s heartwrenching. Flashback sequences added. This is my definite favourite peak of this fanedit! Have a tissue nearby!

Thank you!

… Many, many more minor changes - hundreds - some forgotten, some not worth mentioning but rather experiencing.