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#209999
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What are you going to do with your SE discs?
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Originally posted by: Invader Jenny

Word of advice....
If we are CIVIL about this, our point will be made....We are going to buy his movies. It is up to us to let him know which version we prefer ...

I agree with Jenny. Civility is what got us this far. I believe it's why this board in particular was noticed for it's efforts and mentioned specifically in an interview. This board is different than most in that it's members were clear in their desires and civil in their approach. They came up with an alternate plan, a way to deal with not having the originals. They didn't post whine after whine, saying they were owed something or had any kind of rights to the originals. They asked politely, in a show of strength, a measure of their numbers.

I'll send mine back alright, but I'll do it politely. In September, I'll have what I came for.
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#209627
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Lucas talks about the Sept 12th Release of the O-OT
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Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
...considering his continued contempt for the OOT, even after the announced release, I can't help but wonder what, if any, involvement he really has in all this - beyond giving his consent.


I've wondered that same thing since the announcement. He said the originals didn't exist anymore, he lied about all the things he said and did in the 70s (no matter how much proof there was to the contrary), he kept altering the movies, and he claimed he'd never release the unaltered versions. Now it's being done after all and he's not the one that made the announcement. Also, he's still digging his heels in, even now. Seems like someone at Fox made an executive decision to ignore his ridiculousness and give thousands of fans what they've wanted all along.

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#208233
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How "original" do you think it is going to be...? (the 2006 GOUT DVD release)
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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
They're changes. And I don't want them. ...they don't belong in the originals. Pure and simple.

I agree fully.

Original means 1977. Original happens only once on a timeline - not every few years, not after only a few alterations, not if it's hardly noticeable, not if most people don't mind it. The moment a single change is made, it's no longer original and shouldn't be referred to as such.

The fans that dig all the changes have a myriad of versions to choose from and watch. All we're asking for on this board - all we've ever asked for - is to be able to have a copy of the original version of the film we watched as kids. The version we want is the easiest one to give us. The version we want has been sitting on a shelf somewhere for 29 years. Nothing has to be done to it. No editing and re-editing, no color matching, no sound re-recording, no computer generated alterations, no added music, no teams of technicians, no story changes, no specialty packaging, nothing.

We're really not asking for much.



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#208173
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Why the first two are better
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These two examples have always been what made the first film so magical to me. Also, it reminded me of real life. The characters were tiny - in a vast galaxy.

"The original trilogy — or at least the first two-thirds of it — was dirty and gritty. That was part of its charm. The Millennium Falcon didn't work. Luke's garage was a mess (and whoa! so was the jawa's sandcrawler). The base on the ice planet Hoth was in scattered disarray. Yoda was a slovenly housekeeper....

The space ships and the ground vehicles looked real. One got the feeling they might have been produced on a planet called Detroit, and that with time they'd gradually fallen apart...


In the original trilogy — especially the first film — The Force was a mysterious mystical mental power. It was a rare gift, difficult to harness."
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#207887
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The Official 2006 Discs Will Be No Better Than What We Have!
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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
But what if they purposely make them stand out so much with DVD technology that you can't help but think, "Wow. Look at the inferior technology." I mean, that's exactly what they want us to think. This is just a little conspiracy theory on my part, but you never know. Just something to throw out there.

I'm sorry to say, It's crossed my mind also. I hope that's not the case.

Now that someone else is worrying about it, that means I wasn't crazy for worrying about it after all - crap, now I really have to worry about it.

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#207547
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Finally At Peace With Star Wars...
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Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
Can someone who has been raped be "un-raped?" That is now the ultimate question for all those who said "Lucas raped my childhood." Maybe we're just making peace with our rapist.

I've never seen any of the Special Editions, altered versions, or the last two prequels - and I never will. So, that's not a problem for me. I've been watching Star Wars about twice a year in the form of a really old VHS tape. That's why I'm looking forward to the DVD of the original version. I'll be able to watch it whenever I want without worrying about ruining the media.

I'm not terribly concerned with Lucas, anything he's done to the films, or anything he's planning on doing to them. I don't read interviews with the guy or seek out any explanations as to why he does what he does. I honestly don't care.

I knew better than to watch any of those other versions. In my world, there's no weird CGI, no dodgy sound, no color changes, no added characters, no altered story, no castrated characters, and no one is related to each other. It's a bunch of strangers, brought together by different circumstances, that go on a serious outer space adventure. It's not a bedtime story. There's nothing for me to un-see or un-learn.

It's been a really long haul and I've had to go long periods without seeing one of my favorite movies of all time. It wasn’t easy or fun. However, in September all my abstinence and perseverance will have paid off.
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#207206
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The Future Of This Board
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I made the following post in a different thread, but it's more relevant in this one...

People can still discuss the original trilogy. After all, we're all here because we really like it. It's a passion, an escape, a part of our journey. We've spent plenty of time discussing it, but now there won't be this preoccupation with, or this threat of, it being taken away forever while we try to find a way to save it.

Sure, the war is over - but now, the original trilogy isn't.

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#207203
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The Official 2006 Discs Will Be No Better Than What We Have!
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Originally posted by: TheCassidy
For years Star Wars wasn't about digital this and digital that, anamorphic this and 16X9 that.

It was about the story, characters, emotions and fun! ...

Now we're getting as close to the beloved version officially as we're likely to get and we're arguing over tech details?

Fuck it - if you love the technical shit so much, piss off and watch the 2004 version...


http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f20/stonetriple/ALI.jpg

By the way Cassidy, I fully agree with your statement.
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#207176
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Finally At Peace With Star Wars...
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Originally posted by: oojason

With the forthcoming releases it may well be possible/easier to do edits for each time GL tinkered with every release...

That may be. However, in September I'm going to purchase the only version of the film I've ever seen and am ever going to see. I don't care if he releases a new version every year for the rest of his life. I don't have to concern myself with it anymore. I really am at peace with his lying and revised history.

I'll have a copy of the very same movie I sat in theaters and watched every week of 1977 - the same movie that spoke to me, that moved me, that transported me. Whichever version moves other people is for them to decide. I'm happy for all of us. They'll go on their adventure and I'll go on mine.

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#206970
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Finally At Peace With Star Wars...
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Originally posted by: Invader Jenny
It's finally done and over, and we get to have our beloved movies. But also a little sad because many of us will move on now that the "war is over."

It doesn't have to be that way. People can still discuss the original trilogy. After all, we're all here because we really like it. It's a passion, an escape, a part of our journey. We've spent plenty of time discussing it, but now there won't be this preoccupation with, or this threat of, it being taken away forever while we try to find a way to save it.

Sure, the war is over - but now, the original trilogy isn't. I'll make that trade any day.

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#206969
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Finally At Peace With Star Wars...
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Originally posted by: CO
There is nothing more frustrating then growing up loving the OT, and see a bunch of new fans take over the saga, and Lucas continually catering to their needs...

That was the most frustrating part for me. My past was being erased all in the name of profit made by catering to a bunch of new fans that have no attention spans.

Or even worse, almost vulgar - castrating characters so that they are good guys now. One of the things that first appealed to me back when I saw the originals when they were first shown at the theaters was that the story and the characters paralleled real life. Sometimes things don't go as planned and sometimes you come across people who aren't all that trustworthy. There isn’t always a happy ending and not everyone is a good guy. It was very strange to see Lucas turn a serious film into a bedtime story.

However, as many have said recently, I don’t have that feeling of betrayal anymore, or of anger. I can watch the movie I grew up with and not have to listen to someone tell me it never happened, or wasn’t supposed to happen.

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#206650
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ITS HAPPENED-- OOT AVAILABLE FROM LUCASFILM
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I stumbled onto this board by accident some time ago while looking for someone to transfer an old Star Wars Laserdisc onto a DVD. I realized I wasn't the only person that wanted to see the original version of Star Wars. In fact, it's all I want to see. I've never seen the Special Editions or the last two prequels. Never will. I felt right at home with like-minded individuals. I visited often.

After a while, a kid joined, who's name escapes me, and started trolling and baiting people into arguments. I'm on several boards, all motorcycle related and had seen my share of the occasional trolls as well as people who go a step further, as this kid did, and choke out a board with baiting. They treat the board and it's members as online entertainment. No big deal, the internet is an awfully big place. The original version of Star Wars was never going to be released on DVD anyway, I'd said my piece regarding Lucas, signed the petition, and even got the troll riled up a few times. So I left the board, only checking in every few months to see if the troll was gone or if there was any interesting discussions going on.

Fast forward to 3:00 AM tonight. I can't sleep, so I get up, check all the motorcycle boards I'm on, read a lot and post on a few. It's been a while since I lurked over here, so I decide to check in. I glance at all the topics and one in particular catches my eye - "The Future Of This Board". I figured the board was soon to shut down because of money problems, a legal hassle with Lucasfilm, or some other reason. It was the first thread I read. I was concerned because this the ONLY place I get my Star Wars information. I'm not concerned with the pro-prequel slant on the official site or The Force site.

After reading a post or two, I start to realize the O-OT is going to be released. In a few months I'll be able to watch the original version of Star Wars. I don't care about extra features, running commentary, menu screens, etc. I just want to put the DVD in, press play, and watch the movie.

Jay, hats off to you. There's no way this board wasn't a part of Fox's decision to release those films. Your level-headedness and your keeping things civilized gave this board credibility. It wasn't just another online bitch session - it was a repository of the thoughts of real people with real ideas and passions for the original films. True fans. I'm not terribly concerned with what the quality will be. A straight transfer of the film or the early laser discs would be fine with me. I just want to watch the unaltered film - no changed characters, no added characters, no added scenes. Just Star Wars, circa 1977.

Glad George finally saw the light - even if he didn't really want to.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f20/stonetriple/Lucas_Jedi.jpg
Forgive my photoshopping, it's late and I'm finally getting tired.
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#173155
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never seen the PT or SE
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I've only seen the first of the prequels and none of the SEs. Phantom Menace was so terrible (story, directing and acting), that I immediately lost any interest in anything else Lucas did after that. I know what's been altered in the SEs, but I don't have to worry with trying to un-see or un-hear any of it.

The original version of the first film is all that really interests me. ESB is just ok. ROTJ is disposable - I saw it when it was first released, but by then, my interest in anything Lucas had to say was already waning.