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Moth3r said:
Err... can't see many people complaining about that one.

I agree.  Black as soot sounds much more poetic.

As for The Hobbit, I actually prefer the new version, but thinking about it after reading through this thread, I have decided I would love a collector's edition of the original. 

I do think Tolkien's case is somewhat exceptional when it comes to authors rewriting their works after publication though.  Tolkien continually re-wrote his writings on Middle Earth and wasn't finished at the time of his death.  While other authors might make small changes to their works, continually re-inventing them is something that I have not come across with any other writer.

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Moth3r said:

He made a classic work "Henry the Green Engine" in 1951.

But, in 1972, the story was attacked by the national press for containing the phrase "as black as niggers". To solve the problem, he changed the offending sentence to "as black as soot", which has been used in all subsequent editions of the book.

 1951?

That seems a little late in the day day to pass it off as just 'that's how folks talked back then.' Especially for a children's book.

I'm no expert, but I believe by the 50's polite society in the US was avoiding that term, at least in public and children's books.

Did that type of language, perhaps carry a different ammount of emotional weight in England?

 

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I don't know, I wasn't born then. According to this Wikipedia article about Enid Blyton, "Negro" was the standard formal term and "nigger" a relatively common colloquialism. From what I've read, even in the '70s Awdry initially resisted the change.

Awdry also wrote a line about old-fashioned corporal punishment in one book (Edward the Blue Engine IIRC). "The naughty boys were soundly walloped by their fathers". (And this is from a man of the cloth!) As far as I know, this line remains - it's certainly present in my copy of the complete collection bought in the mid nineties. As the focus for children has shifted to the TV show and the toy franchise, the original books have been left alone. Blyton's books, however, have been extensively edited - by others after her death -  for modern reprints (e.g. golliwogs in the Noddy stories replaced with goblins).

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Golliwogs are Goblins now?  I know you can't say Golliwog anymore... but goblins?  Have they changed the illustrations too to look like goblins?

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You're having a laugh!

Fuck me.

Why are the Goblins all white?

Only joking on that last point.. I don't actually give a shit what skin colour they are.

Goblins... unbelievable.

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