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Star Wars: The Last Jedi - The Dark Cut (SPOILERS)

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Currently an ideas thread until blu-ray comes out, in which it can be moved to the in-the-works section as test clips will begin popping up here.

Main Goals of the Edit:

The Last Jedi was ultimately satisfying in some ways but failed in many others. Often, great moments were undecut with out of place humor, or interesting plotlines were interuppted by pointless subplots. I think a lot can be done with the Last Jedi to make it go from not only a good movie but a great movie. My main goals are as follows…

Time passage between Episode 7 and 8. I will assume that like myself, others are watching a cut of TFA that ends with Rey leaving to find Luke (my personal choice is DigiMod’s Heir to the Force). TLJ will have a new crawl and opening that uses TFA ending (an idea of DigiMod’s). Improve the pacing of the movie to give a film almost enitrely focused on Luke, Rey, and Kylo. We will never see Canto Bight, there will be no opening escape from D’Qar, a few bits and pieces of the chase between the Resistance and the First Order will be trimmed down, and many awful and inconsequential scenes will be axed out of the film. With careful reordering of the remaining scenes, I believe you can get a much improved pace and flow of the film. Cut down almost all of the humor in the film. I think the tone of the film jumps all over the place. To me, it would benefit from maintaining a more serious tone. This means all silly one liners, visual gags, droid silliness, frog nuns, and everything of the sort will be mercilessly and delightfully destroyed from the film. Rescore a few of the key sequences in the film to give further emotional weight. Since I do not consider the prequels to be in my own headcanon and many of you feel the same way, you can expect (and I already have some ideas), some inclusions of what I consider the best of the music that those movies had to offer.

New Crawl:

Below is a rough draft of the crawl. It borrows elements from DigiMod’s opening part of his “Flight of the Resistance” crawl he recently posted.

It is a time of peril. The warring factions of the Resistance and the First Order have crippled one another, and both sides are itching to deal the final blow.
Meanwhile, Rey completes her journey to find Skywalker, certain he can restore a spark of hope to the fight.
Finn and Poe Dameron aid General Leia Organa, in an effort to find a new base for the RESISTANCE to stand against the rising tyranny in the galaxy…

New Scene Order:

For my cutlist to make sense, it is best to know the scene order I have in mind. You will notice that a lot of stuff has been entirely removed and specific changes noted in my cutlist will help show how I will accommodate such large deletions of content. The new chronological scene order is below…

Opening Crawl/Rey Finds Luke/First Scene with Kylo and Snoke/The Force Tree/First Order Finds Resistance/Kylo’s TIE Run/Luke in Falcon/First Force Facetime/1st Lesson/Holdo Speech and Poe Talks to Holdo/Second Force Facetime/Rey Practices with Lightsaber/2nd Lesson/Finn and Roes Meet/Finn and Rose Talk to Poe, Maz Scene/Luke Contacts Leia/Cave Vision/Rey Confronts Luke, Rey Leaves/Last Frigate Destroyed, Poe Kicked off Bridge, Finn and Rose On their Way Back/Rose gives Medallion to DJ

The rest of the scenes play in order except the Yoda scene will be put right after Kylo declares himself Supreme Leader.

Detailed Cut List:

Of the scenes that remain, the following will be done…

-Remove opening space battle and Finn waking up. With the crawl it implies time passage that Finn has woken up and we no longer see the Resistance until later in the movie.
-We now pan down to Ach-To (I need vfx for an establishing space shot of just the planet), and then cut to Rey and Chewie arriving there. I would merge the ending of TFA with her handing Luke the saber from TLJ. This might require color correction as well as DigiMod is doing to match the footage.
-I most likely will not be getting rid of the saber toss since I cannot think of a logical way to get rid of it completely. Undermining the jokey element can be done with new music though. I will add an dramatic cue right as he throws it which should signal a different emotion to the audience.
-Cut Luke barking “Go Away”. Sounds childish, just let him ignore the knocks.
-Cut Jokes of Porgs with the lightsaber.
-Cut out Luke milking the animal.
-Cut out Luke’s fishing scene.
-Cut out the joke about Jakku in the force tree.
-Now we finally see the Resistance for the first time. They are in hyperspace and we see Leia in deep contemplation. Then after we see them jump out of hyperspace, we cut to Finn on the Bridge looking at a schematic. We don’t see any of the conversation between Poe and Leia where he gets demoted and slapped since the opening space battle it isn’t in the film anymore.
-Leia Mary Poppins moment will be cut. How I plan to do so is to show the torpedos going towards the bridge after the TIE’s fire, then we get Kylo’s reaction shot but I would add an explosion glare to his face and new explosion sfx to imply that the torpedos struck their target. And then our next shot is them flying right past the burning bridge. After they leave and Hux talks, we cut straight to Leia being carried away on a stretcher.
-Cut entire sequence of Chewie about to eat a Porg. We cut from the wideshot of the Falcon and Chewie to Luke walking into the cockpit.
-Cut Luke saying “Nothing at all can change my mind.” and “C’mon that’s cheap” to R2. This will make the scene of him seeing Leia’s old hologram a lot more natural and emotional. Those lines blatantly stated what the scene was trying to do.
-Cut caretakers after Rey and Kylo have their first force facetime.
-Cut the exchange between Luke and Rey about the caretakers before their first lesson.
-Cut the entire “reach out” joke.
-Trim Poe and Holdo’s first conversation to remove any references to him being demoted for what happened in the Opening space battle.
-Cut rock crashing the cart of the frog nuns.
-Remove prequel references in the second lesson between Luke and Rey.
-When Rose is crying, add visual flashbacks to her sister to imply why she is crying. Then later we get clarification when she tells Finn that her sister died.
-When Rose meets Finn cut all jokes. No more of Rose talking to herself, no more “May the force be with you” or Finn telling her to breathe.
-Cut all antics and jokes between Finn and Rose while she is carrying him away.
-I will keep the Maz scene for purely logical story progressoin but it is cut down. We cut any talk of Canto Bight though.
-Cut the joke about Rey asking Kylo to cover up.
-Cut the joke of “are you kidding?, look at us.”
-Cut the “Blip boppity bloop” line from DJ.
-Cut them in the ironing room therefore removing the ironing ship visual gag
-Cut BB-8 being covered with trash box
-Cut BB-8 tripping stormtrooper
-Cut evil BB unit scanning them from a distance
-Cut conversation at door that Finn and Rose are breaking into. Begin scene when Finn calls Poe and says they’re almost in.
-Cut close up shots of evil BB unit and BB-8 looking at eachother after Finn and Rose are caught.
-Cut lightsaber smacking Rey in the head
-Cut the entire phasma fight. This means no BB-8 in ATST. After the Supremacy is sliced in two, we simply see Finn and Rose run to the shuttle and then it cuts to the shuttle leaving the hangar.
-Cut silly close up of Snoke’s dead face and his tongue hanging out.
-Cut joke of Hux considering to kill Kylo before he wakes up
-Remove the “salt” comment
-Cut any reference to death star tech
-Remove joke of Poe’s foot falling through hole in speeder
-Remove all porg jokes in the Falcon
-Cut Hux repeating Kylo’s orders
-Have Rose die in Speeder after getting shot, accompanied by cue used during Bigg’s death, as we see a reaction from Finn. Then we directly follow it with his speeder run in which he loses stability at the last moment and crashes. Rose is dead and there is no kiss.
-Cut Hux’s “Do you think you got him?” line.
-Cut Kylo hitting Hux and the “right away sir” joke.
-Cut Finn bringing injured Rose into base. She is dead.
-Cut out slow-mo in Kylo’s first attack on Luke
-Cut out matrix bullet-time movement from Luke on Kylo’s second attack.
-Cut out shots of book on Falcon or anything showing Rose still alive.
-No broom boy ending. We end with the Falcon.

I am open to all suggestions and making any sort of changes. Please feel free to discuss, critique, and offer other cuts to what I currently have. I’m really looking forward to diving into this film.

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You make a lot of cuts I’d rather not make, but bring up a lot of things I’d like to get rid of too. You wouldn’t mind if I borrowed some elements of your cutlist? I had forgotten a few of these. Our edits will most likely be completely different otherwise, as I’m not planning on reordering the scenes and cutting all humor nearly as much.

“After a time, you may find that having, is not so pleasing a thing after all, as wanting. It is not logical, but it is often true.” - Spock

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Handman said:

You make a lot of cuts I’d rather not make, but bring up a lot of things I’d like to get rid of too. You wouldn’t mind if I borrowed some elements of your cutlist? I had forgotten a few of these. Our edits will most likely be completely different otherwise, as I’m not planning on reordering the scenes and cutting all humor nearly as much.

That’s absolutely no problem. I’ll also be greatly looking forward to your edit as well.

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Thank you! As do I with yours.

“After a time, you may find that having, is not so pleasing a thing after all, as wanting. It is not logical, but it is often true.” - Spock

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We all borrow from each other in more ways that can be retraced. There’s no way I won’t do an edit myself eventually, and I’ll definitely be using the best ideas and resources available. I’d rather not release it than not make it the best it can be.

As with Handman, let me know if I can be of any help at all. It’s for selfish reasons, you understand. 😉

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Hal 9000 said:

We all borrow from each other in more ways that can be retraced. There’s no way I won’t do an edit myself eventually, and I’ll definitely be using the best ideas and resources available. I’d rather not release it than not make it the best it can be.

As with Handman, let me know if I can be of any help at all. It’s for selfish reasons, you understand. 😉

Thanks Hal 😉

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Just a thought darthrush - I liked the way it seemed that Rose had given her life to save Finn when watching the movie (except it was then revealed to be yet another bit of misdirection from the makers, as she hadn’t…) - but if you make it look like she actually died in your edit, won’t that risk a continuity problem with the next sequel which she is highly likely to feature in?

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ImperialFighter said:

Just a thought darthrush - I liked the way it seemed that Rose had given her life to save Finn when watching the movie (except it was then revealed to be yet another bit of misdirection from the makers, as she hadn’t…) - but if you make it look like she actually died in your edit, won’t that risk a continuity problem with the next sequel which she is highly likely to feature in?

In the spirit of TLJ, that’ll just be up to whomever fan edits episode XI to deal with. 😉

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Hal 9000 said:

In the spirit of TLJ, that’ll just be up to whomever fan edits episode XI to deal with. 😉

True Hal, but it might make for a real disconnect if Rose’s (potential) future role cant’t be easily taken out. Especially if her storyline happens to include some good scenes which no-one wants to take out anyway.

(although I’ve got some initial ideas of how I’d ideally like to re-structure THE LAST JEDI for myself, I think I’m gonna have to wait until the next instalment to see how certain characters are involved first)

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I’m liking this cut already. Probably gonna try my hand at a cut if I can obtain some decent editing software.

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^ Oh, I agree, ImperialFighter. Seems like a very risky alteration to make! Just livening things up with a joke.

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I recall darthrush saying he’s editing this as if it were the end of the saga, hence whatever happens in Episode IX is irrelevant.

“After a time, you may find that having, is not so pleasing a thing after all, as wanting. It is not logical, but it is often true.” - Spock

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Handman said:

I recall darthrush saying he’s editing this as if it were the end of the saga, hence whatever happens in Episode IX is irrelevant.

Hand man is correct here. It’s also why the broom boy ending is gone without any hesitation.

However, I will make a second version of the edit that will avoid any possible continuity issues with episode 9.

EDIT: And I’m still not sure if that idea can even work. It’s pretty risky and would require just the right footage for me to work with but I could make it happen.

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Ah, that explains it then. Thanks for clarifying.

Just for the record, I initially thought we were about to get an unexpected Finn death in this movie, as things were shaping up for a memorable bit of self-sacrifice on his part - but then of course he was saved at the last minute - and then I was sure that Rose’s character was getting the memorable self-sacrifice treatment instead, which I thought was really effective and poignant at this point…except the makers didn’t follow through on taking this character out either, as it turned out.

To be honest, considering the characters that we DID lose in these sequels so far, I was fine with Rose being a one-movie deal so that she would go out in such a noble way at this point…and kinda felt cheated that we were ‘played’ TWICE-in-a-row with the same kind of misdirection by the makers.

Of course that’s my ‘adult self’ talking, and I’ve no doubt that my ‘younger self’ would have been very relieved to see BOTH characters survive what ‘seemed’ to be their last moments!

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I would see Episode 9 before deciding to take Rose out or not. She may play a big part

No offense, kid, but I don’t think you know how to boil water.

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liamnotneeson said:

I would see Episode 9 before deciding to take Rose out or not. She may play a big part

This edit is going to work as the finale of the Star Wars saga.

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liamnotneeson said:

I would see Episode 9 before deciding to take Rose out or not. She may play a big part

You should probably read my response to a similar concern. An alternate version will have no possible continuity issues and the main version will work as a finale. So I’ll have options for everyone. I’m considering a third version with the opening space battle and not a drastic restructure.

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The crawl’s kind awkward.

It is a time of peril. The warring factions of the Resistance and the First Order have dealt cripplingly blows to one another.
Meanwhile, Rey completes her journey to find Skywalker, certain he can restore a spark of hope to the fight.
Finn and Poe Dameron aid General Leia Organa, in an effort to find a new base for the RESISTANCE to stand against the rising tyranny in the galaxy…

I’d replace the first paragraph with “It is a time of peril. The warring factions of the Resistance and the First Order have crippled one another, and both sides are itching to deal the final blow.”

“Both sides have attacked each other” is a weird thing to say in a crawl.

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SparkySywer said:

The crawl’s kind awkward.

It is a time of peril. The warring factions of the Resistance and the First Order have dealt cripplingly blows to one another.
Meanwhile, Rey completes her journey to find Skywalker, certain he can restore a spark of hope to the fight.
Finn and Poe Dameron aid General Leia Organa, in an effort to find a new base for the RESISTANCE to stand against the rising tyranny in the galaxy…

I’d replace the first paragraph with “It is a time of peril. The warring factions of the Resistance and the First Order have crippled one another, and both sides are itching to deal the final blow.”

“Both sides have attacked each other” is a weird thing to say in a crawl.

Updated the crawl with your suggestion.

I appreciate all suggestions for the crawl considering that I ain’t feeling too hot on it as of right now. Especially the third paragraph cause in there I need to introduce that Finn somehow has recovered, and what the Resistance is currently doing.

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