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Star Wars Prequel Trilogy (Anti-Cheese Edit) (Released)

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After hearing Collider Jedi Council’s Kristian Harloff rave about these prequel edits he came across, I had to check them out immediately. Seems like YouTube user JeremyMWest-Esquire has done an amazing job with editing out the cheesiest stuff (dialogues, Jar Jar etc) from the prequel trilogy. Feel free to check them out!

Star Wars Episode I - Phantom Menace (Anti-Cheese Edit):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPiuUiMdQWw

Star Wars Episode II - Attack of the Clones (Anti-Cheese Edit):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDlT59hqqtk

Star Wars Episode III - Revenge of the Sith (Anti-Cheese Edit):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14tMHjDkKLA

Now I feel like I can watch the prequel trilogy again! Thanks JeremyMWest-Esquire!

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They are not perfect, but it was kind of refreshing to not hear the terrible voice acting and dialog of Jar Jar and Gungans. Definitely an improvement.

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I just watched the Phantom Menace edit. It’s quite good, though I think that some parts now feel rushed. The podrace could be cut quite a bit shorter, however. The way that the Nemoidians are portrayed in this is rather cool.

This was the first time that I genuinely FELT the villainy of Palpatine. That we don’t get a chance to see the villainy on screen is one of the biggest problems with The Phantom Menace, even if that is implied in the title. If we saw the suffering of the people of Naboo, just one shot of the overcrowded camps at night with a mass grave in the distance, it would go a long way to making the stakes real. Then the Nemoidians could be subtitled to order the death of Sio Bibble in the scene where they say ‘tuck him away’, and we could perhaps hear the laser blast.

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NeverarGreat said:

I just watched the Phantom Menace edit. It’s quite good, though I think that some parts now feel rushed. The podrace could be cut quite a bit shorter, however.

I agree that it feels a bit rushed. Thats what I hate about some edits, they butcher the movie. (but if you do not wish to spend years making it, that might be the only choice) The pod race itself should be cut short and extended at same time. Some of the deleted content needs to be reimplemented (sand people for instance) and most of the race, especially the whole silliness needs to be cut.

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sansuni said:
(sand people for instance)

The part where they expertly snipe a speeding pod, but fail to hit a bunch of jawas dragging their feet about? 😃

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towne32 said:

sansuni said:
(sand people for instance)

The part where they expertly snipe a speeding pod, but fail to hit a bunch of jawas dragging their feet about? 😃

It was a lucky shot perhaps? 😄

Any silliness in the scene could be edited out, I am sure. Having Sand people would be good for continuity I think.

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bromeo said:

After hearing Collider Jedi Council’s Kristian Harloff rave about these prequel edits he came across

It is honestly quite baffling to me that Star Wars super-fans like the Collider crew are just now discovering prequel fan edits. I mean, Kristian was talking about the ‘No-Cheese Edit’ like it’s never been done before! The Phantom Edit and three cuts you found on YouTube is just scratching the surface. Someone send these guys an IFDB link!

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Yeah, I’ve been getting kind of annoyed seeing these guys rant about these edits which, while good, do pretty standard stuff in the world of fanediting the prequels. Can’t imagine Kristian’s reaction to actually seeing one of the better quality fanedits.

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Agreed. How do they not know about Adywan?

Thinking the unthinkable indeed.

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towne32 said:

sansuni said:
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The part where they expertly snipe a speeding pod, but fail to hit a bunch of jawas dragging their feet about? 😃

Actually I like those bits put in.
A) The sandpeople are not known for their accuracy so missing the Jawas is more their thing whereas the pod could have just been luck.
B) It introduces the two species perfectly in a very old Star Warsian way. Remember how the opening shot of ANH set the stall for the Galactic Civil War. Tiny little ship swallowed by the great white shark of the Empire. Same thing in that footage. So I would have less CGI muppets and have the whole of the Sandpeople, Jawa sequences.

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I see these particular edits have recently gotten a little love over on io9 (dot) com too, and I always find it interesting to read the various comments at the bottom of articles like these - (note - this article includes a newer link to JeremyMWest-Esquire’s ‘The Phantom Menace Anti-Cheese Edit’, which shows it in full HD now) - io9.com/include-these-anti-cheese-star-wars-prequels-while-you-1747781701

I actually downloaded a heap of prequel edits from Youtube over the last couple of weeks - approx. 15 or 16 of them in total (!), both individual and 3-in-one style versions. This was because I don’t think any of them are listed over at Fanedit (dot) org…and I was curious to see what these guys had done with certain scenes compared to my own intended ‘cut-lists’. And also because I wasn’t sure how long they would be available to view there!

I haven’t had the time to check out any of them properly yet, but I skimmed a couple of the scenes in JeremyMWest-Esquire’s ‘The Phantom Menace Anti-Cheese Edit’…and his re-subtitled Watto dialogue about ‘detonating’ young Anakin when he first appears gave me a chuckle - this new dialogue should be in every edit that features this scene now, as far as I’m concerned…and Watto delivers the line with aplomb. 😃

On the strength of that alone, I’m going to check out all of these ‘anti-cheese’ edits throughout, to see what else he came up with - I know he’s scrapped Shmi’s ‘immaculate conception’ assertion to Qui-Gon, which is a bit of dialogue I’m definately removing too…as I’m very content to leave whatever happened to Anakin’s ‘father’ as an open-ended question - I just imagine he probably died or got killed when Anakin was even younger…or maybe he was just ‘passing through’ that part of Tattooine at the time, and only had a brief fling with Shmi before moving on to somewhere uknown to her - who knows? 😉

Personally, I’m not keen on the whole ‘chosen one’ aspect of the Jedi that George settled on…but can accept that storyline better so long as there’s no ‘unexplained birth/midiclorians’ involved whatsoever.

And the next prequel edit I hope to watch all the way through after those, will be one called ‘Star Wars: The Blackened Mantle (The Prequels Rewritten/Recut)’ by Darth Lunar - this looks to be a really interesting 3-in-one style edit, due to the fact it uses the Japananese language soundtracks, and has been completely re-subtitled throughout! So as I don’t understand Japanese, I can watch (and listen) to this quite happily, and imagine it to be a ‘foreign film’ version of the movies. Again, I’ll be interested to see what Darth Lunar came up with, and I reckon it could transform the tone of these movies with an almost ‘samurai’-type of gravitas for certain characters now.

For the record, my own ideal versions won’t have any re-subtitling over and above the brief subtitles that already exist in the prequels, as I want my younger family members to be able to easily follow what’s being said by the characters…without asking me what they are saying throughout! 😉

However, Darth Lunar’s edit looks to be a very different take on the source material, and I don’t mind reading fully-subtitled movies, personally. There’s a link to it in the first post of this recent thread about it, if anyone else is interested - originaltrilogy.com/topic/Has-anyone-watched-The-Blackened-Mantle/id/46103

(By the way, can anyone tell me how on earth some of these full-length edits have remained up on Youtube for so long, while other snippets and clips get removed almost instantly? I’m curious to know)

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This trilogy of edits just seems to have a checklist of disliked moments cut out. I wouldn’t expect someone to see this and feel like they just watched a polished film.
I kept Vader’s “NOOO” precisely because it was too jarring to remove while keeping the rest of the scene. Most YouTube work I’ve seen (at least for single film edits; I don’t really care for 3-in-1’s) just cuts things wherever and may or may not smooth over the audio and apply a wipe transition. The Anti-Cheese versions are far from the worst, but the murky world of FE.org has collectively put out much better work, though aren’t as enticing as clicking on a YouTube link.
ImperialFighter, please let us know if you find anything in YouTube that’s well done, though.

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I haven’t watched all of The Blackened Mantle yet, but so far it’s been pretty fascinating to watch. I understand a little bit of Japanese, but in this case fortunately not well enough to break the illusion that what they’re speaking doesn’t match up with what the subtitles say. Some of the transitions to the flashbacks thus far are a bit too jarring in my opinion, but the voice acting is really solid, and it’s definitely worth checking out!

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Hal 9000 said:

This trilogy of edits just seems to have a checklist of disliked moments cut out. I wouldn’t expect someone to see this and feel like they just watched a polished film.
I kept Vader’s “NOOO” precisely because it was too jarring to remove while keeping the rest of the scene. Most YouTube work I’ve seen (at least for single film edits; I don’t really care for 3-in-1’s) just cuts things wherever and may or may not smooth over the audio and apply a wipe transition. The Anti-Cheese versions are far from the worst, but the murky world of FE.org has collectively put out much better work, though aren’t as enticing as clicking on a YouTube link.
ImperialFighter, please let us know if you find anything in YouTube that’s well done, though.

Hal 9000, I haven’t had a chance to fully check out these ‘anti-cheese’ versions yet, as I said…so can’t comment on how ‘polished’ the choices and editing will seem to me - but I reckon the merits of every fan edit is very ‘subjective’ to different people anyway, and that their view of an edit’s quality will depend largely on what they personally think should be removed from each prequel’s footage - and some will be far more specific than others about what they wish to see included or excluded.

There seems to be so many shots and lines of dialogue that different people dislike about them, that they lend themselves to a multitude of re-editing possibilities - and in addition to that, there also seems to be numerous ways to alter some of the most commonly re-edited sequences too - for instance, the various ‘end’ scenes to REVENGE OF THE SITH are but one example of where different fan editors have very differing ideas on how they ‘should’ be done.

In fact, my own planned sequence of re-cuts for these various ‘end’ scenes differ quite a bit from other ROTS edits I’ve come across so far…although I realise that I may be the only one that will enjoy seeing it done my way! - which is fine, as the time I spent working out various alternatives that I liked, eventually threw up the version I was most happy with personally - which doesn’t happen to include Vader’s “NOOO” however.

(by the way, I’ve actually got a copy of your ROTS edit, and I look forward to checking out your other 2 well-received prequel edits too, sometime)

However, while there are some other well-known prequel edits around, I thought I’d take the time to list the various ones I came across on YouTube recently, while they are still there…as this seems to be the only place where the majority of these are available, to my knowledge. Some of them may be of interest to others, although I don’t know what footage has been included or excluded from any of them, at this point.

For those interested, just type these particular titles into the YouTube ‘searchbox’ exactly as I’ve written them out in upper and lower case letters, as I’m not going to type out all the direct links (however, I’ll include the names of the editors and the running times too, so that you have an idea what you’re in for) - So in no particular order of preference whatsoever (as I haven’t watched any of them yet) -

Phantom Menace - Anti-Cheese Edit (by JeremyMWest-Esquire - features ‘creepy puppet Yoda’ - 1:40:49)

Phantom Menace - Anti Cheese Edit 1080 HD (by JeremyMWest-Esquire - features ‘CGI Yoda’ - 1:32:36, as he’s re-edited certain scenes since his initial version)

Attack of the Clones - Anti Cheese Edit (by JeremyMWest-Esquire - 1:58:10)

Revenge Of The Sith Anti-Cheese Edit (by JeremyMWest-Esquire - 2:05:45)

Star Wars The Phantom Menace Mature Edition (by matthew fisher - 1:51:27)

Star Wars Attack Of The Clones Mature Edition (by matthew fisher - 2:00:14)

Star Wars Revenge Of The Sith Mature Edition (by matthew fisher - 1:56:22)

Star Wars: The Last Turn to the Darkside (A Fan-Edit of the Prequels) (by GratefulDeadpool - 2:42:39)

Star Wars: The Blackened Mantle (The Prequels Rewritten / Recut) (by Darth Lunar - 2:46:39)

Star Wars: Neon Noir (Fan Edit) (by Only Yoda Forgives - 1:40:41)

FALL OF THE JEDI - A Unique Star Wars Prequel Edit (by Greg Bartlett - 2:29:04)

Star Wars I-III A Phantom Edit 1080p (by Andrew Kwan - 2:05:25)

Star Wars: A Vergence in the Force [Episodes I-III Fanedit] (by Editor Binks - 2:19:09)

Star Wars: The Fall of the Galactic Republic (by TJTheEmperor - 3:28:20)

Star Wars Episode I-III Rise of the Empire (Fan Edit) (by JXEditor - 2:02:35)

STAR WARS ORIGINS (Prequel Edit) (by Nico Negron - 2:31:27)

Star Wars Prequels Edited: Ep 2 & 3 (by Hijorn Bjorn - 2:26:04)

STAR WARS Episode I-III The Fall of The Jedi Order (Fan Edit) Prequels (by zaandarbrow 2nd Channel - 4:19:50)

Star Wars: The Fate of the Chosen (PREQUELS RECUT 2015) (by Taylor Melnik - 2:52:02)

STAR WARS: EPISODE I - THE PHANTOM MENACE: FORCE SPEED EDITION (by Crashlander - 1:11:55)

Star Wars Retake: I-III Fan Edit (by C. S. Wagner - 3:11:18)

Star Wars 1-3 Revenge of the Re-Edit (by B Visser - 2:02:21)

Star Wars: Episode I-III Flashback to the Dark Side (by Luke Skywalker - 26:41) - now that’s short!

And in addition to all the above, there was also one called Star Wars Prequels Fan-Edit: Order 66 1080p - but I never got a chance to see who it was by, or how long it was, as it seems to be gone now - and there will be other edits not listed above which will appear eventually too, no doubt.

While I know that none of these will organise the footage in precisely the way I want to see, there may be a moment or two that inspires me to tweak my preferred alterations a little - but that’s a lot of footage to trawl through, regardless of quality! 😉

(by the way, does anyone know how come a lot of these full-length edits manage to stay up on YouTube for so long, while other edited snippets and clips seem to be removed very quickly?)

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I think it comes down to luck, as far as whether the edits get taken down or not.
Thanks for that list, though, that’ll be great to keep a checklist. You’re right that an edit need only please its maker. I have just become a little sensitive to the little things after spending an inordinate amount of time doing this.

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It sucks that Disney had these taken down, luckily I managed to save then somewhere, I never understood this type of thing I mean it’s not like someone posted the regular retail version of the films on YT for free

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Might be an unpopular opinion, but I don’t think these edits are near the quality of other options avaible. It’s not even that it’s a bad edit. It is done relatively well, with great redubs and smart cuts. It really has no problems and truly does improve upon the commercial blu-rays that someone might view instead. It’s just a little frustrating to see edits like these get so much more spotlight than other fanedits that I feel are far superior. I really respect people like the Collider crew and it makes me so angry to see them rave about such mediocre edits. If only I could show them Hal9000’s trilogy with Adywans A New Hope Revisited. Edits like these do so much more. Like the following:

-Rescore scenes
-Masterfully reinsert entire subplots
-Restructure a films story
-Redefine how we view characters
-Brand new special effects
-Attempt to modify the tone of the film

These type of edits have clear goals, and attempt to achieve them as best as possible. And it takes these hardworking people YEARS of work. YEARS! After they finish, they are left with an amazing finished product that deserves to be shown to all Star Wars fans. That is precisely the reason that these type of YouTube edits frustrate the hell out of a fan like myself.

I apologize for the rant.

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darthrush said:

Might be an unpopular opinion, but I don’t think these edits are near the quality of other options avaible. It’s not even that it’s a bad edit. It is done relatively well, with great redubs and smart cuts. It really has no problems and truly does improve upon the commercial blu-rays that someone might view instead. It’s just a little frustrating to see edits like these get so much more spotlight than other fanedits that I feel are far superior. I really respect people like the Collider crew and it makes me so angry to see them rave about such mediocre edits. If only I could show them Hal9000’s trilogy with Adywans A New Hope Revisited. Edits like these do so much more. Like the following:

-Rescore scenes
-Masterfully reinsert entire subplots
-Restructure a films story
-Redefine how we view characters
-Brand new special effects
-Attempt to modify the tone of the film

These type of edits have clear goals, and attempt to achieve them as best as possible. And it takes these hardworking people YEARS of work. YEARS! After they finish, they are left with an amazing finished product that deserves to be shown to all Star Wars fans. That is precisely the reason that these type of YouTube edits frustrate the hell out of a fan like myself.

I apologize for the rant.

I agree there are way superior edits out there, I think it’s just that not many are exposed to them, btw are you referring to the newer edits by Hal9000 or his original ones I’ve been meaning to watch his newer ones personally (cloak of deception etc)

“I will call this one BOHIJ”
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“Heh Funnie Scream”
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darthrush said:

Might be an unpopular opinion, but I don’t think these edits are near the quality of other options avaible. It’s not even that it’s a bad edit. It is done relatively well, with great redubs and smart cuts. It really has no problems and truly does improve upon the commercial blu-rays that someone might view instead. It’s just a little frustrating to see edits like these get so much more spotlight than other fanedits that I feel are far superior. I really respect people like the Collider crew and it makes me so angry to see them rave about such mediocre edits. If only I could show them Hal9000’s trilogy with Adywans A New Hope Revisited. Edits like these do so much more. Like the following:

-Rescore scenes
-Masterfully reinsert entire subplots
-Restructure a films story
-Redefine how we view characters
-Brand new special effects
-Attempt to modify the tone of the film

These type of edits have clear goals, and attempt to achieve them as best as possible. And it takes these hardworking people YEARS of work. YEARS! After they finish, they are left with an amazing finished product that deserves to be shown to all Star Wars fans. That is precisely the reason that these type of YouTube edits frustrate the hell out of a fan like myself.

I apologize for the rant.

The Anti-Cheese edits just have a different goal in mind. They were made–as the title suggests–to cut out the cheesiness, not to drastically change anything.

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darthrush said:

Might be an unpopular opinion, but I don’t think these edits are near the quality of other options avaible.

I think your forgetting all those other people who don’t prefer drastic changes. Remeber that a large majority of people loved TFA even with its rehashed moments. It’s all about familiarity. Most people want some thing that is familiar, but new. Drastically changing narratives can have a worse impact on many viewers.

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