Sign In

Star Wars Deleted Scenes - Reincorporated?

Replies
245
Author
Time

Now that the Blu-Rays are out and reveal some key deleted scenes (some in better quality than others), I'm wondering if anyone is interested in releasing a fan edit that incorporates some of these into the film?

Now someone will argue "but the quality isn't the greatest! it won't match!" but who cares... that didn't stop people from editing together the TV cut of Dune with the DVD and it was awesome, and this is the best these scenes have ever looked, so it's not like it was before when all we had was Behind the Magic. So sure, music might need to be added, some very basic cleanup/color correction, maybe even some prelim SFX. It would be a big project, but who is game?

It would be flat out awesome to see a new version of the "GOUT" with Luke & Biggs on Tatooine, Chief Bast and Vader talking in the hall, Red leader talking about Luke's father, etc.

If someone was really ambitious, they could try colorizing the alternate cantina scene (or maybe make the whole movie black & white to match, or perhaps it doesn't matter, Kill Bill got away with having black and white sequences in a color film).

The screenplay shows where the scenes ought to go.

 

Any takers?

This post has been edited.

Author
Time

The red leader scene is not likely to be reincorporated, because it is incomplete and it is a different take to the one used in 97 SE.

Author
Time

Why couldn't you just splice it together with existing footage to "complete" it?

Author
Time

Well because it doesn't match the existing footage. remember that the shot with Luke, Biggs and the Red leader is not shown in full on the BluRay. Splicing it together would introduce a very jarring jump-cut.

So I guess it is possible, but it would look terrible.

Author
Time

After I finish my Ewoks project I plan to do something similar, but I don't want to do whole "extended versions" of  movies, but only to collect ALL scenes from all releases and include a proper beginning and ending to each scene

Author
Time

just to interject with the red leader footage debate. you may find that the red leader scene that we see in the special edition is actually a spliced scene. the cut between is when a guy walks across the camera, and it is obvious that the two shots are completely different. something similar could be achieved using the same method.

incidentally i'm having a star wars showing on my birthday later in the month, where the main 3 additional tatooine scenes have been reinserted to the main film. i haven't cleaned them up, but have enstead degraded the rest of the film to look like its an old super8 film. as we are projecting it it should look quite good! i used my old marvel comics to place the scenes.

a query - does anyone know what music should go with the scenes? was any ever recorded?

www.benjaminography.com

Author
Time

ben_danger said:

just to interject with the red leader footage debate. you may find that the red leader scene that we see in the special edition is actually a spliced scene. the cut between is when a guy walks across the camera, and it is obvious that the two shots are completely different. something similar could be achieved using the same method.

I know that but this cut was actually just cutting out a line of dialogue, so it cuts to later in that shot. However, the shot present on the BD is actually a slightly different angle, so I really don't know how this could be added. This really sucks because I really wanted to see this particular scene restored in its entirety. It would certainly be better then the terrible cut in the SE and considering character development, it is actually really nice to have in the film.

Author
Time

the best i could do was cutting away to 3p0 and r2 mid conversation. its pretty bad, but it is pretty cool having a second 'father' reference!

how orange are their suits in the special edition? its like you've never fully experienced the colour until you've watched that segment

www.benjaminography.com

Author
Time

ben_danger said:

a query - does anyone know what music should go with the scenes? was any ever recorded?

I do not believe so, you could use the radio drama, those scenes are in there, maybe you could note the music used there, and use that for inspiration.

John Williams score to Return of the Jedi Remastered/Remixed:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/JOHN-WILLIAMS-Star-Wars-Episode-VI-Return-of-the-Jedi-Remastered-Edition/topic/14606/page/1/

Author
Time

fishmanlee said:

Does it have to?

at any rate, we need  to get back on toopic.

 I had some food caught in my teeth, but I got it out with a toopic.

The ROTJ collaborative thread is a wealth of ideas, both on how to edit Return of the Jedi, as well as how to collaborate in an edit.  Emanswfan has taken leadership of the project.<span style=“font-size: 1.2em; line-height: 1.2em;”> </span>

<a></a>

Author
Time

ben_danger said:

just to interject with the red leader footage debate. you may find that the red leader scene that we see in the special edition is actually a spliced scene. the cut between is when a guy walks across the camera, and it is obvious that the two shots are completely different. something similar could be achieved using the same method.

incidentally i'm having a star wars showing on my birthday later in the month, where the main 3 additional tatooine scenes have been reinserted to the main film. i haven't cleaned them up, but have enstead degraded the rest of the film to look like its an old super8 film. as we are projecting it it should look quite good! i used my old marvel comics to place the scenes.

a query - does anyone know what music should go with the scenes? was any ever recorded?

 Let us know how this turns out.  It sounds very interesting.

The ROTJ collaborative thread is a wealth of ideas, both on how to edit Return of the Jedi, as well as how to collaborate in an edit.  Emanswfan has taken leadership of the project.<span style=“font-size: 1.2em; line-height: 1.2em;”> </span>

<a></a>

Author
Time

TV's Frink said:

fishmanlee said:

TV's Frink said:

 

I think I might need to learn how to use the internet.

 

Fixed!

Yeah, that make sense.

FIXED

<span style=“font-weight: bold;”>The Most Handsomest Guy on OT.com</span>

Author
Time

pittrek said:

After I finish my Ewoks project I plan to do something similar, but I don't want to do whole "extended versions" of  movies, but only to collect ALL scenes from all releases and include a proper beginning and ending to each scene

Oh that sounds like a cool edit. It might not be better than the theatrical cuts; however, it sure would be an interesting watch. I look forward to it.

Author
Time

I guess I'm not exactly sure what you mean by a "proper beginning and ending to each scene."

The ROTJ collaborative thread is a wealth of ideas, both on how to edit Return of the Jedi, as well as how to collaborate in an edit.  Emanswfan has taken leadership of the project.<span style=“font-size: 1.2em; line-height: 1.2em;”> </span>

<a></a>

Author
Time

ben_danger said:

just to interject with the red leader footage debate. you may find that the red leader scene that we see in the special edition is actually a spliced scene. the cut between is when a guy walks across the camera, and it is obvious that the two shots are completely different. something similar could be achieved using the same method.

incidentally i'm having a star wars showing on my birthday later in the month, where the main 3 additional tatooine scenes have been reinserted to the main film. i haven't cleaned them up, but have enstead degraded the rest of the film to look like its an old super8 film. as we are projecting it it should look quite good! i used my old marvel comics to place the scenes.
 

Brilliant idea! You can also use the screenplay from starwarz.com (or the art of star wars if you have it) to place the scenes.

I'm frankly sick of hearing the "footage won't match the quality" excuse for not attempting it (newsflash: it NEVER will). That's never stopped any other fan edit that incorporates additional footage, heck that's what they did with the first X-Men movie on the official DVD. But if you must blend it, downgrading the rest is a great solution.

Think of this like if Star Wars wasn't the huge franchise it is today, but another B cult film like Battle Beyond the Stars and they're showing it in some late night theater in some college town. A little scratch here and a jump cut there? Big deal. But all the footage is there, people are gobbling popcorn, remarking to the screen and enjoying every minute of it.

 

Incidentally I remember when the Blu-Rays were coming out there was a youtube video (with the official blu-ray logo thing at the start, but I suppose somebody could have edited that in to make it look authentic) which showed Luke throw (and miss) with his grappling hook, then try a second time and get it, just like people always thought they saw back in the day. But yet I never saw that again in the list of deleted scenes. Was this just a joke on the part of LFL?

 

This post has been edited.

Author
Time

Kurgan said:

Incidentally I remember when the Blu-Rays were coming out there was a youtube video (with the official blu-ray logo thing at the start, but I suppose somebody could have edited that in to make it look authentic) which showed Luke throw (and miss) with his grappling hook, then try a second time and get it, just like people always thought they saw back in the day. But yet I never saw that again in the list of deleted scenes. Was this just a joke on the part of LFL?

It was a joke on the part of our very own Harmy.

Episode I: The Ridiculous Menace / Episode II: Attack Of The Ridiculousness / Episode III: Revenge of the Ridiculousness

Author
Time

Kurgan said:

I'm frankly sick of hearing the "footage won't match the quality" excuse for not attempting it (newsflash: it NEVER will). That's never stopped any other fan edit that incorporates additional footage, heck that's what they did with the first X-Men movie on the official DVD. But if you must blend it, downgrading the rest is a great solution.

 

Why are you so sure the quality of the deleted scenes can't match the rest of the movie? Most of those can be cleaned up and color corrected and we have a lot of tallented people for such a task on this site. I am just saying that one particular scene cannot satisfyingly match the rest not because its picture quality (which is actually pretty good) but simply because it is a different shot. 

This issue stopped me personally from attempting an extended edit of ANH, simply because I feel that this is the one scene that needs to be reincluded to make some of the rest work.

Of course if you are aiming for a old movie look, perhaps using GOUT as the main source, then it may still work, but that's simply not the kind of project I was interested in.

Author
Time

i'm working on a star wars evolution project,

basically taking scenes/audio from every version i have:

vinyl, 8mm, 16mm, ced, laserdisc, dvd, hd, bluray.(need vhs).

i'm putting as many deleted scenes back in as

possible. no cleanup needed because it matches the

quality of the other clips chronologically.

 

later

-1

[no GOUT in CED?-> GOUT CED]

To the top