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It means theatrical as in the 1997 Special Editions that were released in theaters, as opposed to the 2004 DVD version or the 2011 Blu Ray version. And yeah, they're just mistaken. It's a guy in a suit.
So for Christmas, my brother got me a huge book called "Star Wars in 100 scenes" and the book is okay, it pretty much just narrows the saga down to 100 memorable scenes (special edition changes included sadly) and gives some cool fun facts/behind the scenes information along the way. In the book I found a confusing quote at the wampa scene that reads:
"1997's special edition (theatrical version) replaced the original wampa with a digital version of the beast."
Can anyone explain this to me? Was the added wampa that we know totay digital at some point? Is this just some mistake? Why does it say "(theatrical)" if it's in the special editions? I just though this was an odd quote and I'd bet that there is some screen-cap or reconstruction somewhere.
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It means theatrical as in the 1997 Special Editions that were released in theaters, as opposed to the 2004 DVD version or the 2011 Blu Ray version. And yeah, they're just mistaken. It's a guy in a suit.
There's no digital wampa in any version of ESB
That's too bad. I thought it would be cool to look back on a digital wampa in retrospect and laugh at George's silly changes even more. That's a really odd mistake to make for a book that went out of it's way to say that in the fun fact bubble though.
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If the '97 wampa had been digital, it would have been '97 CGI Jabba level of bad.
Instead, it's merely 'meh'. It doesn't need to be there, and it also looks nothing like the one from the original version, which creates an irritating visual discontinuity; but overall it's more of a nuisance than something that actually ruins the film.
Of greater concern is the fact that the sound editing done to accommodate the change was very sloppy, resulting in the sound effects going out of synch with the picture. You can hear Luke cutting himself out of the ice before he is actually seen to do so, and his lightsaber is heard to deactivate even while it obviously remains lit onscreen.
This, my friends, is hilarious. Can you post a picture of this caption? Because wow.
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hairy_hen said:
If the '97 wampa had been digital, it would have been '97 CGI Jabba level of bad.
Instead, it's merely 'meh'. It doesn't need to be there, and it also looks nothing like the one from the original version, which creates an irritating visual discontinuity; but overall it's more of a nuisance than something that actually ruins the film.
Of greater concern is the fact that the sound editing done to accommodate the change was very sloppy, resulting in the sound effects going out of synch with the picture. You can hear Luke cutting himself out of the ice before he is actually seen to do so, and his lightsaber is heard to deactivate even while it obviously remains lit onscreen.
I completely agree, I grew up with only the 2004 dvds and always had problems with the visual difference and audio errors. Is it possible that only the theatrical re-release of the SE had this and not the laserdisc/vhs versions?
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Smithers said:
hairy_hen said:
If the '97 wampa had been digital, it would have been '97 CGI Jabba level of bad.
Instead, it's merely 'meh'. It doesn't need to be there, and it also looks nothing like the one from the original version, which creates an irritating visual discontinuity; but overall it's more of a nuisance than something that actually ruins the film.
Of greater concern is the fact that the sound editing done to accommodate the change was very sloppy, resulting in the sound effects going out of synch with the picture. You can hear Luke cutting himself out of the ice before he is actually seen to do so, and his lightsaber is heard to deactivate even while it obviously remains lit onscreen.
I completely agree, I grew up with only the 2004 dvds and always had problems with the visual difference and audio errors. Is it possible that only the theatrical re-release of the SE had this and not the laserdisc/vhs versions?
Considering George Lucas made a point of mentioning the amount of money it would cost to restore the OT, and that being the reason for him not doing it, outside of the fact he says they no longer exist, ............ no.
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Considering George Lucas made a point of mentioning the amount of money it would cost to restore the OT, and that being the reason for him not doing it, outside of the fact he says they no longer exist, ............ no.
:)
I don't understand this reply... are you joking around or what? Money is no object when George Lucas wants something (CGI was pretty expensive stuff in the late 90's) and they DO exist because... Harmy put together a complete theatrical release of the original films and has way less than half the material that George Lucas had to make it. And... what does this have to do with the thread anyway?
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Smithers said:
Considering George Lucas made a point of mentioning the amount of money it would cost to restore the OT, and that being the reason for him not doing it, outside of the fact he says they no longer exist, ............ no.
:)
I don't understand this reply... are you joking around or what? Money is no object when George Lucas wants something (CGI was pretty expensive stuff in the late 90's) and they DO exist because... Harmy put together a complete theatrical release of the original films and has way less than half the material that George Lucas had to make it. And... what does this have to do with the thread anyway?
Jetrell was just being facetious.
George notoriously said back in 2011 that the unaltered versions would be too expensive to restore. We all knew that was total BS, of course. As you said, money was no object.
Fang Zei said:
Smithers said:
Considering George Lucas made a point of mentioning the amount of money it would cost to restore the OT, and that being the reason for him not doing it, outside of the fact he says they no longer exist, ............ no.
:)
I don't understand this reply... are you joking around or what? Money is no object when George Lucas wants something (CGI was pretty expensive stuff in the late 90's) and they DO exist because... Harmy put together a complete theatrical release of the original films and has way less than half the material that George Lucas had to make it. And... what does this have to do with the thread anyway?
Jetrell was just being facetious.
George notoriously said back in 2011 that the unaltered versions would be too expensive to restore. We all knew that was total BS, of course. As you said, money was no object.
Thanks for clarifying it Fang ..... as it did pertain to the question asked. George just didn't want to do them, he didn't want them to exist anymore but he's got us as a reminder.
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Get this...
I Saw this in the Star Wars Visual Dictionary.... Is this for real like it was a 1997 Ditched special edition idea?
We Have the Probe Droid looking from a far using different vision modes to detect the shield generator. I can imagine the Probe droid Head spinning / turning and then being shown various image scans inter-cut with the probe droid prop...It seems like it is legit or at least part of Lucus R&D for the special edition? Or is it just made up?.
There is a music cue listed as "2M4 The Probe Scanner" which comes after Luke's Rescue .....
I thought the new Wampa shots looked pretty good. Mind you I'm not sure if they should have been added in or I would have placed them in that way. But it looks very realistic and not fake like the CGI Jabba.
Seriously since it was a guy in a suit, has anyone else noticed that a lot of the stuff in the prequels that still looks good was miniatures or other models? Even if just as much blue screen was used, I think a lot of effects would have looked so much better had they been photographing something real instead of CGI.
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Knightmessenger said:
Seriously since it was a guy in a suit, has anyone else noticed that a lot of the stuff in the prequels that still looks good was miniatures or other models? Even if just as much blue screen was used, I think a lot of effects would have looked so much better had they been photographing something real instead of CGI.
True, I recently read a behind the scene star wars book and it shows how naboo was almost all miniatures, and they look pretty good. Sadly, everything else looks awful.
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pittrek said:
There's no digital wampa in any version of ESB
The wampa has a spot of digital fur in one scene
swagmasta69 said:
pittrek said:
There's no digital wampa in any version of ESB
The wampa has a spot of digital fur in one scene
True, but the wampa was not completely replaced by a cgi monster
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Smithers said:
swagmasta69 said:
pittrek said:
There's no digital wampa in any version of ESB
The wampa has a spot of digital fur in one scene
True, but the wampa was not completely replaced by a cgi monster
Indeed
Seriously? Which scene are we talking about?
pittrek said:
Seriously? Which scene are we talking about?
Where were you in '77?
Oh, yes, I thought they did something with the full body costume, I completely forgot this change