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Originally posted by: Shimraa
i wonder what people would do if gorge reshot ep 4 throu 6 with new actors and CGI all so that it flowed right with the PT.

would you guys see it.


also what if he released the OOT on DVD would that change your minds.



I would be very happy to have the OOT on DVD. But I still would have prefered it if he had made the PT to fit the OOT instead of making a whole new OT. I doubt a new OT could catch the magic of the OOT.
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thats true, but maybe it would have magic for the kids that enjoyed the pt.

you can say what ever you like about me but i found some of the puppet effects detracted from the movies. thats just me. and merging in CG is messing with them too much. the extended vader obiwan duel in ANH was horrible IMO in the 2004 editions, it was too cutty.
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Originally posted by: TheSessler
This board is getting kinda outta hand.


Agreed. Kam, we aren't interested in your attituted, so go flame someone on tf.n.


As for the question posed by (Shim?)...

Sure, I would see it. I have my VHS and DVDs of the Original Trilogy SE, and I could always find bootlegs of the OOT (Hey Dayv )...

Anyway. I'd see it, but not if seeing it meant that the OOT would dissapear forever.

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Originally posted by: Shimraa
lol, yeah i really dislike people that dise the PT for now other reason that it didnt fit there idea of what it should be. so the complain and complain like a little 5 year old and fail to realize that they are not the one who is in charge of makeing the movie. its not there story.


Well I don't dise the PT's, I diss them, so hate me if you must. Also, its not really Lucas' story if you care to dig.
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whos stroy is it then. i bet your going to say its your story the fans story. WELL WHERE WERE THE FANS WHEN LUCAS AND HIS CO-WRITERS WROTE THE THING. were you looking over there shoulder telling them that this is good and that is bad. you own nothing man not the trilogy and not the story.

and man you must be pretty new if your going to take shots at my grammer.
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Originally posted by: Shimraa the extended vader obiwan duel in ANH was horrible IMO in the 2004 editions, it was too cutty.


Was it extended?? It looked the same to me.

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It wasn't extended. Have you people actually seen these films???

War does not make one great.

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I didn't mean you Hotrod, I was talking to the jokers who claim to have seen the films but then claim that the vader/obiwan fight is extended.

War does not make one great.

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It isn't... bt it should've been...
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Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
I didn't mean you Hotrod, I was talking to the jokers who claim to have seen the films but then claim that the vader/obiwan fight is extended.


Fair enough
Yeah watch the film you fuckers.... j/k


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Originally posted by: Shimraa
thats true, but maybe it would have magic for the kids that enjoyed the pt.

you can say what ever you like about me but i found some of the puppet effects detracted from the movies. thats just me. and merging in CG is messing with them too much. the extended vader obiwan duel in ANH was horrible IMO in the 2004 editions, it was too cutty.


they extended the duel in the ANH 2004 DVD edition? I didn't know that. As for the puppet effects detracting, I don't think they detract anywhere near as much as
some CGI effects do (IMHO).
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Naw, a bad effect is a bad effect.

The reason it stands out in the OT is that it's different than they way they were for 20 years, and because in 1997, CGI wasn't the best. The BAD CG in the prequels isn't any worse than a bad puppet in the OT.

The thing is, there weren't many bad puppets used in the OT.

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A puppet is actually in the room with the real actors, it has real depth. CGI is animation and has no depth and is not in the room with the actors. To me most of it looks like it was glued on the picture after the real actors were filmed.
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i wonder what people would do if gorge reshot ep 4 throu 6 with new actors and CGI all so that it flowed right with the PT.


give him time, he's halfway there...



I always said if they released both versions, I'd like to see the SE's "updated" as much as possible. Why not? It'd be kinda fun. Problem is, he's not going to release the OT. Oh Well, as long as I have my TR47 DVD's...
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Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
It wasn't extended. Have you people actually seen these films???


yes same i t seemed very choppy in the 2004 version not what i remember from the original.
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Originally posted by: Shimraa
thats true, but maybe it would have magic for the kids that enjoyed the pt.

you can say what ever you like about me but i found some of the puppet effects detracted from the movies. thats just me. and merging in CG is messing with them too much. the extended vader obiwan duel in ANH was horrible IMO in the 2004 editions, it was too cutty.


they extended the duel in the ANH 2004 DVD edition? I didn't know that. As for the puppet effects detracting, I don't think they detract anywhere near as much as
some CGI effects do (IMHO).


no they didnt, however i thought i heard somewhere that the did. as for the puppets ditracting and hte CGI detracting, i agree they both did in some situations, its all a matter of taste and personal opinion one which one detracted more. i personally feel they detracted in equal amounts.
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Originally posted by: Shimraa
whos stroy is it then. i bet your going to say its your story the fans story. WELL WHERE WERE THE FANS WHEN LUCAS AND HIS CO-WRITERS WROTE THE THING. were you looking over there shoulder telling them that this is good and that is bad. you own nothing man not the trilogy and not the story.


you're right we didn't help write thing. But we did pay tickets to see the movies. All the millions of $s that are now in Lucases pockets, started out in our pockets. Yeah we didn't write the thing but we did foot the bill and then some. If there are no movie fans, then there are no movies. I think that gives us the right to criticize the work. Technically it all belongs to Lucas and he can do whatever wants to it. But, does that make it morally right for him to do whatever he wants and ignore the fans and treat them like s***? no.

If Lucas decided that the whole saga would look better if there was a big red X accoss the entire screen on every frame of all 6 films, would you be ok with him doing it? I doubt it .

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Originally posted by: Shimraa
whos stroy is it then. i bet your going to say its your story the fans story. WELL WHERE WERE THE FANS WHEN LUCAS AND HIS CO-WRITERS WROTE THE THING. were you looking over there shoulder telling them that this is good and that is bad. you own nothing man not the trilogy and not the story.


you're right we didn't help write thing. But we did pay tickets to see the movies. All the millions of $s that are now in Lucases pockets, started out in our pockets. Yeah we didn't write the thing but we did foot the bill and then some. If there are no movie fans, then there are no movies. I think that gives us the right to criticize the work. Technically it all belongs to Lucas and he can do whatever wants to it. But, does that make it morally right for him to do whatever he wants and ignore the fans and treat them like s***? no.

If Lucas decided that the whole saga would look better if there was a big red X accoss the entire screen on every frame of all 6 films, would you be ok with him doing it? I doubt it .

i understand that it is your right to critize, however i was talking to a person whose name is "fans own the trilogy" just because you pay a ticket to see a movie does not mean it belongs to you. without the millions of people that paid for spiderman comics and movies and so one spiderman would not be around, does that mean that spiderman belongs to to the people, no it belongs to marvel. no movie would ever be made if once it was released itr didnt belong to the maker but rather the people that see it.

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Originally posted by: Shimraa
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Originally posted by: Warbler

i understand that it is your right to critize, however i was talking to a person whose name is "fans own the trilogy" just because you pay a ticket to see a movie does not mean it belongs to you. without the millions of people that paid for spiderman comics and movies and so one spiderman would not be around, does that mean that spiderman belongs to to the people, no it belongs to marvel. no movie would ever be made if once it was released itr didnt belong to the maker but rather the people that see it.


All of that in beautiful lower case. You obviously don't get the subtlety of my name, but then again you like the PT so subtlety is probably not your strong point.
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Look buddy you don’t want to get into a fight with me ok. You obviously need to go get some help because if you think the fans own the trilogy you’re delusional.
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do the fans own the trilogy? legally, technically no. But morally and emotionally? yes they do. And yes Spiderman belongs to the fans as much as he belongs to Marvel. Point is, the owners of these franchises make money off of the fans who devote their heart and soul to them, the owners should respect that. Lucas doesn't. You keep talking about this from a business point of view. This is more than just a business to the fans.
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Originally posted by: Shimraa
Look buddy you don’t want to get into a fight with me ok. You obviously need to go get some help because if you think the fans own the trilogy you’re delusional.


Or what? What the hell are you going to do? Anyways, this is a forum about perserving the OT for the fans and perserving it from Lucas. You think there might be people on this forum who loathe the PT? Again, subtlety not your thing.
"Drink the Kool-Aid. Wear blinders. Cover your ears. Because that's the only way you can totally enjoy Revenge of the Sith -- the final and most futile attempt from skilled producer, clumsy director and tin-eared writer George Lucas to create a prequel trilogy to match the myth-making spirit of the original Star Wars saga he unleashed twenty-eight years ago. Fan boys, of course, have convinced themselves otherwise. So have several critics, if you go by early reviews."
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lets all calm down before this erupts into a flame war.
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Originally posted by: Warbler
do the fans own the trilogy? legally, technically no. But morally and emotionally? yes they do. And yes Spiderman belongs to the fans as much as he belongs to Marvel. Point is, the owners of these franchises make money off of the fans who devote their heart and soul to them, the owners should respect that. Lucas doesn't. You keep talking about this from a business point of view. This is more than just a business to the fans.


its your entertainment not your belonging. there is a very clear difference. and you bring up the biggest problem its the people devoting there heart and soul to a peice of entertainment. dont you think thats bad. there are other things in life that deserve peoples heart and soul. you know that guy, I for get his name but he posted that comment about there being 2 types of fans and everybody is getting mad at him about it. this is what he was talking about. people shouldnt be doing that they should be puting that much emotion into there job or there family or into there comunity, not into a peice of fantasy something some one made up. but thats besides the point. what i am trying to say is that people shouldnt put that much emotion into them, the fact is that they do and that is the release they feel the way the do right now. its also the reason why no matter what lucas does to the films, whether he makes new ones or makes changes, they will always be hated by the hardcore fans.