.: LeeThorogood's PAL LaserDisc Preservation Project :. - '97 SE Finished '95 THX Finished - '97 SE Uploaded '95 THX Uploaded to the newsgroup — Page 14

I think he used DE's LD 5.1 rips, thanks Ady for confirming what I suspected, I did not want to download any of these until there was feedback, I read that he sync'd these files up so fast and could NOT figure out how he did it, because I was using NTSC LD's and these did NOT sync right out of the box, they needed work, and it took a lot of time, plus I was weary about putting an LD rip on a DL DVD, seems a bit much to me, but Thanks again for the feedback, it really helps out a lot.

Hell it was even more work to get DE's LD 5.1 rips in sync to the DV Broadcast versions I did, but it was well worth, those files sound SO GOOD when done right, or at least as good as I can get it.

dark_jedi said:

I think he used DE's LD 5.1 rips, thanks Ady for confirming what I suspected, I did not want to download any of these until there was feedback, I read that he sync'd these files up so fast and could NOT figure out how he did it, because I was using NTSC LD's and these did NOT sync right out of the box,

Why not ask?!

rockin said:

dark_jedi said:

I think he used DE's LD 5.1 rips, thanks Ady for confirming what I suspected, I did not want to download any of these until there was feedback, I read that he sync'd these files up so fast and could NOT figure out how he did it, because I was using NTSC LD's and these did NOT sync right out of the box,

Why not ask?!

What the hell do you mean? and why would I need to ask, most people that download files would just post feedback, it is just common courtesy, but if your talking about the sync'ing of the files, I think I read it in his thread how he did it and Ady's comment just added to what I thought, it was not done right, they should have been PAL encoded and then converted to 6 mono wav files and edited in Vegas to the original audio, but whatever, thank you for the "Why not ask?!" that was cool.

Sorry to hear that Lee, but without good audio it ruins the experience as Ady has said, it certainly would for me, plus the fact that you did DL encodes to me(and this is only me) is a waste, it is only an LD, hell I didn't even use DL's for the 97 SE V2(DV Broadcast source) or the JSC V2 I did.

dark_jedi said:

rockin said:

dark_jedi said:

I think he used DE's LD 5.1 rips, thanks Ady for confirming what I suspected, I did not want to download any of these until there was feedback, I read that he sync'd these files up so fast and could NOT figure out how he did it, because I was using NTSC LD's and these did NOT sync right out of the box,

Why not ask?!

What the hell do you mean? and why would I need to ask, most people that download files would just post feedback, it is just common courtesy, but if your talking about the sync'ing of the files, I think I read it in his thread how he did it and Ady's comment just added to what I thought, it was not done right, they should have been PAL encoded and then converted to 6 mono wav files and edited in Vegas to the original audio, but whatever, thank you for the "Why not ask?!" that was cool.

Firstly, I don't understand this constant hot tempered nature of yours is in like every thread when someone questions something of yours - a comment/post/work you've done etc etc.

What I meant was you seemed very quick to say that you are gonna hold off, and let everyone know that in his thread. Seems a bit extreme and harsh, if you ask me. There may be a problem with the audio, but all you need to do is ask Lee about it, not be so quick to dismiss something and almost put others off downloading it as well... I know you wouldn't want someone saying "I am not downloading V3 because of..." with you only finding that info out now, and not even sure if it was true, then again you might.. I don't know.. but either way, I think it's unfair to people who may want to download it, and be put off by possible misinformation.

Let the author of the thread confirm the problem properly themselves is all I am saying. I understand feedback is essential, but I find that a bit hypocritical coming from someone that is very quick to shoot people down in their own threads about particular things.

I am not having a 'go' at you but it's not the first time I have seen you do it d_j; it's been in other threads too, that's why I am finally saying something now..

rockin said:

dark_jedi said:

rockin said:

dark_jedi said:

I think he used DE's LD 5.1 rips, thanks Ady for confirming what I suspected, I did not want to download any of these until there was feedback, I read that he sync'd these files up so fast and could NOT figure out how he did it, because I was using NTSC LD's and these did NOT sync right out of the box,

Why not ask?!

What the hell do you mean? and why would I need to ask, most people that download files would just post feedback, it is just common courtesy, but if your talking about the sync'ing of the files, I think I read it in his thread how he did it and Ady's comment just added to what I thought, it was not done right, they should have been PAL encoded and then converted to 6 mono wav files and edited in Vegas to the original audio, but whatever, thank you for the "Why not ask?!" that was cool.

Firstly, I don't understand this constant hot tempered nature of yours is in like every thread when someone questions something of yours - a comment/post/work you've done etc etc.

What I meant was you seemed very quick to say that you are gonna hold off, and let everyone know that in his thread. Seems a bit extreme and harsh, if you ask me. There may be a problem with the audio, but all you need to do is ask Lee about it, not be so quick to dismiss something and almost put others off downloading it as well... I know you wouldn't want someone saying "I am not downloading V3 because of..." with you only finding that info out now, and not even sure if it was true, then again you might.. I don't know.. but either way, I think it's unfair to people who may want to download it, and be put off by possible misinformation.

Let the author of the thread confirm the problem properly themselves is all I am saying. I understand feedback is essential, but I find that a bit hypocritical coming from someone that is very quick to shoot people down in their own threads about particular things.

I am not having a 'go' at you but it's not the first time I have seen you do it d_j; it's been in other threads too, that's why I am finally saying something now..

You are so right sitting on your high and...., well forget it, you said your piece and really I could care less what those fingers of yours type, I do not mean to come off harsh but hey if I do then I do, there are others here that come off as harsh to but I don't finger point because I do not care, this is the damn internet LOL, there are lots of keyboard courage people here, but back on topic for Lee we should go.

1 more thing, I hope you don't download the V3, again I could give 2 shits, sorry Lee.

It doesn't matter now; Lee has confirmed everything.

But anyway, I have nothing personal against you or anyone. I just can't understand you sometimes. You're posting sometimes rubs me and other people the wrong way. You say one thing, but mean something else. But this is the problem with the internet; not seeing what people actually meant behind their words, other than just seeing words. This is also why I don't really participate with anything internet wise much, other than this site for Star Wars.

LeeThorogood said:

I would be more then happy to have another bash at syncing the 5.1 audio and release an audio fix like what Adywan did for his theatrical TPM DVD if someone could point me in the direction of a good guide on how to sync the 5.1 audio properly. :)

I asked this same question a while ago when I first started all the audio sync'ing I did, I will try and find the thread, I am pretty sure it is in the how to's, but in a nutshell you need to encode to PAL, then split into 6 mono wavs, load your original audio into Vegas, then your 6 mono wavs, then I muted all the mono wavs but the center, zoom in on the timeline, and wallah, you can see everything you need, again in a nutshell.

*edit- I just read what Ady wrote, you are on a mac, I have no idea either.

Lee,

Let me applaud you for staying straight and focused in this thread.  Everyone has a right to an opinion for sure but you haven't even flinched when you received criticism that read a bit tough and discouraging.

I have supported this project of yours from the get go and I'll happily keep supporting it as the 1997 S.E. does deserve a good archive, especially a DL LD one and I firmly believe that your work here could only benefit others who may try their own if they can get past all the minutia of software, scripts, coloring, and so forth.

Cheers my friend.....

:)

It's definitely better to let the pitch shift upwards along with the audio speedup for PAL, rather than using anything to keep it the same.  I really don't like the way this sounds, but unfortunately it's vastly preferable in sound quality, because short of having access to some real high grade professional equipment, nothing that keeps the pitch the same during speedup is going to sound any good.  (And maybe not even then.)  It's basically the equivalent of letting a tape reel spin faster during playback, instead of doing all kinds of complicated and destructive alteration.

I use a Mac, but I don't actually know of anything that will change the speed on the file directly.  What I would do is split the AC3 into its individual channels using either a52decX or Mpeg Streamclip, then open them in your audio editor and tell it to speed them up by the appropriate amount: 25fps / (24/1.001) = 1.0427083333333..., so just over 4.27% speedup.  Then you can edit the faster versions to synch as needed.

Is there a PAL 5.1 equivalent audio rip instead of the NTSC audio?  Maybe at least someone here who'd consider capturing the audio from your LD's if you sent them out?  That would probably be a better way to address this, though it would add some time to it....could be far more worth it in the end instead of the audio you have now not getting the chance to shine properly.

Just some thoughts anyways.....

I'm new here, so Hello everybody! I need help. Could someone send me a PM telling me where to find LeeThorogood's PAL LaserDisc '97 SE? Thanks in advance!