Sign In

4K restoration on Star Wars — Page 255

Author
Time

MalàStrana said:

Ronster said:

Well… Normally whenever a restoration is done a director is consulted.

Yeah: THE director, i.e. Lucas. Case dismissed.

Ok then you will never see the OT again.

Author
Time

The OOT you mean ?

“I have to say that I felt George’s group of six films had more innovative visual imagination, and this film was more of a retrenchment to things you had seen before and characters you had seen before, and it took a few baby steps forward with new characters.” - James Cameron about Episode VII.

Author
Time

Ronster said:

TV’s Frink said:

LexX said:

Sorry, I meant what do you mean Edwards being pushed out.

I’m waiting on this too. Ronster says things all of the time that are either misunderstandings or crazy speculation.

Read it again. 😃 He was chucked off RO. I think he is a good director perhaps he is too experimental for big budget blockbusters but he does not go too over the top and even though he even aspires on VFX based stuff he does try to tone it down to be real and gritty. Which is perfect for Star Wars.

He was chucked off but he was kept around for PR. But he still did a great job even though all the clamour about saving the film he did do excellently i think.

He got the tone right where as the reshoots did not.

I think he really understood something about the original fims that say JJ abrams did not.

But JJ had a different job to start a new trilogy but he set a different tone. Which is reasonable I suppose.

But he wasn’t “chucked off”. Just another “fake news” article that spread just because another director was hired. yet that director was only hired to help out with the reshoots, with Gareth, in order to get them done on time. No different to Gary Kurtz taking over directorial duties on final shoots with ANH. Gareth was there right to the end. One of the final things shot was the Tantive escape. And he’s right there, pulling the lever.

ANH:REVISITED
ESB:REVISITED

DONATIONS TOWARDS MATERIALS FOR THE REVISITED SAGA

Author
Time

He lost control of the film. Taken away probably. He was not calling the shots at the end either way. Perhaps it just was not working or atleast that seems to be the general consensus.

But it is not like he became an enemy or something it just got taken away.

It happens a lot now days.

And the music composer disappeared as well probably because of how much a re-write and liked what he had done and did not want to change what he had done.

On Godzilla Gilroy was also btought in on that film… But I still like Monsters also

This post has been edited.

Author
Time

Ronster said:

He lost control of the film. Taken away probably. He was not calling the shots at the end either way. Perhaps it just was not working or atleast that seems to be the general consensus.

But it is not like he became an enemy or something it just got taken away.

It happens a lot now days.

That’s not what happened though.

And I have no idea at all what Edwards would have to do with a 4K restoration.

Author
Time

Because we were talking about directors control over their artistic creations.

And probably Lucusfilm own all the sequeal trilogy and spin offs. Hired gun directors. Can’t remember the terminology but a studio can own a film and a director can also own their art.

American werewolf in London is a film say that John Landis can not change or alter he has no say. Only consultation. It is a type of contract for directors. Can’t remember. Basically he has no ownership on the film. Negative Pick up deal.

But George owns the original films and the prequeals artistically not the company as such. As although it was company money it was Lucus’s own money and independently funded majority share.

This is the point.

This post has been edited.

Author
Time

I’d be okay with a percentage based ignore dial.

I.e., “ignore 63% of _____’s posts.”

Author
Time

TV’s Frink said:

If we ever get the ignore feature back Ronster might go on my list. I don’t even dislike the guy, it’s just there’s no reason to ever read his posts because they never make sense.

Look up “negative pick up deal” on films.

Then you will understand that different films have different types of contracts. That is in a lot of cases directors do not have artistic control over the films they delivered and the studio bought. That is the studio owns the film. If the studio wanted to change the film without the directors consent they have every right to as they have full ownership of the material.

What i am saying and it should not be hard to understand if you don’t i would be very surprised…
Are you questioning if George has complete final say over what he does with “his films”? He exercises his right to change them because he can and nobody could take that right away from him.

But there could be other reasons why he made changes each time Star Wars got released other than he could simply change them if he wanted to. It would cerainly complicate any release given how many versions there are. Each one will no doubt be patented. The 2011 and theatrical cut are the opposite ends of the spectrum and even though he probably retains full artistic control over his films. I would very much doubt it is something he would now care to exercise, and he is not in the same position to exercise that sort of power of influence. But I would say it is up to George Lucus ultimately. But he has retired and he is not going to get in the way of what the company want to do. But he will have to agree what is released with his films. Because he owns them.

He also does not have unfettered access to ILM and Lucusfilm resources like he did.

Honestly. I hope that makes sense.

This post has been edited.

Author
Time

rodneyfaile said:

I believe he’s tooling with you, sir.

He is a wind up merchant just like me…

You know though i never actually realized how complex this situation is.

And although Lucusfilm are now “the caretakers” for the whole franchise.

George is still a shrood businessman. And i would not be surprised if every other version from 97 onward was not so much he “wanted” to make changes and could but by making changes and patenting another unique version he was somehow increasing his leverage in his ownership. Or Broadening his reach on his property.

Basically he is not faced with any yes or no situations. His replies can be more in line with.

Which, what, how, only if you…

This post has been edited.

Author
Time

Very surprised to see this much praise of Lucas’s use of digital cameras and CGI.

They (digital motion picture technologies) are useful tools, but not all-purpose ones. The way Lucas used them, and the way Hollywood has generally used them since they became widespread, are as crutches. Because storage space is cheap, settings can be changed quicker, the final result can be previewed in real time, and digital editing has so many more bells and whistles, there is less motivation to put effort into getting a good shot. This applies moreso to effects, as the digital world does not have the limitations of the physical world, allowing thought out and naturalistic shots to be replaced by hyperactive, sensory overloading flash and impossible scale. Early CGI like Jurassic Park and Terminator 2 looked better because effort was taken to get it to fit in with live action footage by not shoving it in your face and often augmenting it with practical effects. Now it’s the other way around, with the live action being an afterthought.

As for digital cameras, they’re best used in situations that demand a small, lightweight, or remote camera.

To the top