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They’ll probably wait for 4K Blu-rays to become more commonplace and give it an HDR grade. That’ll piss off the nerds. (Us)
Like I said before, if an official release happens, and it only has some minor problems, which I may want to fix, the only way I’m releasing it is by doing the work in Resolve, which is free for non-commercial uses and putting out a resolve project, which everyone can render themselves.
They’ll probably wait for 4K Blu-rays to become more commonplace and give it an HDR grade. That’ll piss off the nerds. (Us)
Why should that piss us off? If they gave it a proper HDR grade, meaning they could actually get the colors closer to what was on film, that would be amazing.
I know. But- not necessarily you, Harmy- a lot of fans will simply refuse to be satisfied and will always find something to bitch about. Lucasfilm refuses to release the originals- that’s something to get angry about. The colors for the TFA BD are slightly different from the theatrical version? People get angry. It’s the nature of nerds.
It’s especially funny in the case of TFA, because it’s probably not true. But one or two people are convinced otherwise. It’s just the nature of watching films for the sake of finding problems in them. You’re bound to invent some.
This is all quite possible. Also, even if an official release doesn’t happen, maybe some 35mm fan-preservations may come out, which will make Despecialized unnecessary.
I think your work is fantastic Harmy, and it certainly won’t be unnecessary. I really like the sharpness of the Blu Ray, and a 1080p version of Despecialized using some 35mm elements would be fantastic. Your work won’t be overshadowed or forgotten.
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I know. But- not necessarily you, Harmy- a lot of fans will simply refuse to be satisfied and will always find something to bitch about. Lucasfilm refuses to release the originals- that’s something to get angry about. The colors for the TFA BD are slightly different from the theatrical version? People get angry. It’s the nature of nerds.
Sure but HDR has absolutely nothing to do with it.
Your work won’t be overshadowed or forgotten.
It won’t be forgotten, but I think we’re all hoping it will be overshadowed by a proper release.
This is all quite possible. Also, even if an official release doesn’t happen, maybe some 35mm fan-preservations may come out, which will make Despecialized unnecessary.
I think your work is fantastic Harmy, and it certainly won’t be unnecessary. I really like the sharpness of the Blu Ray, and a 1080p version of Despecialized using some 35mm elements would be fantastic. Your work won’t be overshadowed or forgotten.
Well, from what I’ve seen, a really good IB Print restoration should be at least on par with the official BDs in terms of sharpness.
4K seems to me like a useless waste of resources. The difference between 480p, 720p and 1080p is visible even at distance, but I won’t even notice something is 4K unless a person tells me.
Just like high frame rates, I think this thing has more potential in videogames. In movies, it’s kinda useless.
4K seems to me like a useless waste of resources. The difference between 480p, 720p and 1080p is visible even at distance, but I won’t even notice something is 4K unless a person tells me.
Just like high frame rates, I think this thing has more potential in videogames. In movies, it’s kinda useless.
today me agrees with you. but i am sure two years in the future both of us will have changed our minds.
when we are approximating reality with video, it will forever fall short of the thing it is approximating until perhaps someday we reach the point that displays are manipulating individual atoms to recreate every single wavelength of light that the original scene emited. and even then we might ralize that there is more involved than just light.
every step forward we are amazed at how good something is, and our brains are so great at filling in gaps that we really do think it is perfect. but after long exposure we start to see the flaws.
for the forseable future at least, i think it is safe to assume that current tech will always go obsolete.
the sad result of this is that at some point, long after all originals are decayed and gone, the 8k and 4k remasters done today will be nit so impressive, and we will wish we could go back and redo the scans but we can’t. by happy(?) coincidence, by that time most people who saw the original films probably wont be around, so no one will really care like we care now.
(sorry, rambling before i have had my coffee…)
4K seems to me like a useless waste of resources. The difference between 480p, 720p and 1080p is visible even at distance, but I won’t even notice something is 4K unless a person tells me.
Just like high frame rates, I think this thing has more potential in videogames. In movies, it’s kinda useless.
today me agrees with you. but i am sure two years in the future both of us will have changed our minds.
when we are approximating reality with video, it will forever fall short of the thing it is approximating until perhaps someday we reach the point that displays are manipulating individual atoms to recreate every single wavelength of light that the original scene emited. and even then we might ralize that there is more involved than just light.
every step forward we are amazed at how good something is, and our brains are so great at filling in gaps that we really do think it is perfect. but after long exposure we start to see the flaws.
for the forseable future at least, i think it is safe to assume that current tech will always go obsolete.
the sad result of this is that at some point, long after all originals are decayed and gone, the 8k and 4k remasters done today will be nit so impressive, and we will wish we could go back and redo the scans but we can’t. by happy(?) coincidence, by that time most people who saw the original films probably wont be around, so no one will really care like we care now.
(sorry, rambling before i have had my coffee…)
Thing is, when I first saw movie in HD, it blew my mind away. And seeing a movie in 1080p for the first time, I gasped at all of the detail. With 4K, I didn’t notice difference until I started looking at the individual pixels.
This is true. It does make a difference but only on really huge screens and not as much as the difference between SD and HD. It also depends on the material - some films will benefit more than others.
I bought a 40" 4k TV and immediately noticed the difference.
I bought a 40" 4k TV and immediately noticed the difference.
I too noticed the difference. It definitely isn’t an SD-to-HD jump, but it is beautiful stuff. I will say that I really just love the depth of color on all of these new 4K TVs, with HDR and everything. The higher resolution is nice, but the color on a 4K OLED TV with an HDR Blu-Ray is unreal (or more real, I guess).
I love my current 1080p plasma from Samsung, but I won’t be buying another TV until I can get a 4K OLED screen for a decent price.
“You don’t really mean you’ll kill me, do you?” - Juror 8
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I bought a 40" 4k TV and immediately noticed the difference.
I too noticed the difference. It definitely isn’t an SD-to-HD jump, but it is beautiful stuff. I will say that I really just love the depth of color on all of these new 4K TVs, with HDR and everything. The higher resolution is nice, but the color on a 4K OLED TV with an HDR Blu-Ray is unreal (or more real, I guess).
I love my current 1080p plasma from Samsung, but I won’t be buying another TV until I can get a 4K OLED screen for a decent price.
I too have a Samsung plasma which I love. I hope to never buy an LCD TV, but wait for better tech like oled or something else
It shouldn’t be forgotten that many films of the last decades had a 2K digital intermediate and can’t benefit from the jump to 4K technology.
Edit: at least not in resolution, color depth might be a different matter
“I want to watch Empire on my refrigerator’s LCD screen but listen to the Austrailan audio thru my USB phonograph setup and it worked on the other two movies” -yoda-sama
I bought a 40" 4k TV and immediately noticed the difference.
I too noticed the difference. It definitely isn’t an SD-to-HD jump, but it is beautiful stuff. I will say that I really just love the depth of color on all of these new 4K TVs, with HDR and everything. The higher resolution is nice, but the color on a 4K OLED TV with an HDR Blu-Ray is unreal (or more real, I guess).
I love my current 1080p plasma from Samsung, but I won’t be buying another TV until I can get a 4K OLED screen for a decent price.
I too have a Samsung plasma which I love. I hope to never buy an LCD TV, but wait for better tech like oled or something else
Same here. I don’t want to have an LCD, so I’ll wait for a 4K OLED.
It shouldn’t be forgotten that many films of the last decades had a 2K digital intermediate and can’t benefit from the jump to 4K technology.
Edit: at least not in resolution, color depth might be a different matter
Indeed, I’m far more interested in the color benefits than the resolution jump.
“You don’t really mean you’ll kill me, do you?” - Juror 8
“Silence, Earthling! My name is Darth Vader. I am an extra-terrestrial from the planet Vulcan!” - Calvin “Marty” Klein
Count me in for someone more interested in the increased color depth! But I’m going to wait until 4K matures and we get a better display technology.
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With SD to HD, the biggest difference to me was the reduction in compression artifacts (many of the initial HD sources were just recycled SD masters, so the difference in detail wasn’t as big as it could have been on a lot of titles, yet they were still distinctly better). From what I’ve seen of 4K (streaming demos), the difference in the demos seems almost entirely due to a better-quality 4K stream–possibly due to better compression, fewer artifacts, etc, but also quite likely due to higher bitrates too. Maybe there’s something perceptible in the resolution itself, but there’s so much apples-to-oranges in the comparisons I’ve seen (e.g. their 2K stream absolutely never has the same bitrate and encoding as their 4K stream) that I’m not sure I’ll ever know if I can see the difference on the resolution alone, under normal viewing circumstances.
I know. But- not necessarily you, Harmy- a lot of fans will simply refuse to be satisfied and will always find something to bitch about. Lucasfilm refuses to release the originals- that’s something to get angry about. The colors for the TFA BD are slightly different from the theatrical version? People get angry. It’s the nature of nerds.
Why are you here?
I know. But- not necessarily you, Harmy- a lot of fans will simply refuse to be satisfied and will always find something to bitch about. Lucasfilm refuses to release the originals- that’s something to get angry about. The colors for the TFA BD are slightly different from the theatrical version? People get angry. It’s the nature of nerds.
Why are you here?
Why am I?
We’re not all the same.
We’re not all the same.
Though we are like-minded, and shockingly handsome to boot.
Like I said before, if an official release happens, and it only has some minor problems, which I may want to fix, the only way I’m releasing it is by doing the work in Resolve, which is free for non-commercial uses and putting out a resolve project, which everyone can render themselves.
^^This
If your crop is water, what, exactly, would you dust your crops with?
I know. But- not necessarily you, Harmy- a lot of fans will simply refuse to be satisfied and will always find something to bitch about. Lucasfilm refuses to release the originals- that’s something to get angry about. The colors for the TFA BD are slightly different from the theatrical version? People get angry. It’s the nature of nerds.
Sure but HDR has absolutely nothing to do with it.
People are bitching about the HDR grade on the 4K Blu-ray for Ghostbusters. It’s a sad truth.