If you were going to make a Film or Films. What Aspect ratio, Lens, Camera, Genre, Style, etc. Would you use. Thread — Page 2

I think he’s saying he’d scan the film so he can edit it digitally, but then conform the camera negative to the digital edit. So basically how films were edited after NLE software became commonplace but before digital intermediates were a thing. Or, in other words, how Christopher Nolan works.

This was actually taught in some of my editing and finishing classes in college. After teaching us how to edit 16mm film using a razor blade and tape. (The year after I graduated they switched to 100% digital…)

Dek Rollins said:

I was responding to Warb, not you.

Sounds like a whole lot of effort for the same thing. Shooting on film i understand. Doing the editing and post work on film seems unnecessarily complicated, difficult, and expensive for a final result that would be nearly indistinguishable (again not talking about doing the initial shooting on film). Especially considering almost any place that would show your film would just show it digitally anyway. And you could still make prints of it anyway.

But then again I’m not speaking from a film enthusiasts perspective.

DuracellEnergizer said:

Warbler said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Possessed said:

Warbler said:

I think if I were to make a movie, I think I’d to make it with old technology. Make it exactly the same way they did in the 30’s, 40’s, or 50’s. I don’t know it would be in glorious black and white or three-strip technicolor(and I don’t mean a digital re-creation, I mean the real thing). I wouldn’t want to use any newer technologies, or techniques. I would want it to be as old fashion as possible.

I too like to spend unnecessarily excessive amounts of money and do things as inconveniently as possible to get similar results.

I imagine it’d be tricky getting ahold of usuable '30s-'50s film stock, and processing equipment from those decades probably doesn’t exist anymore.

make new '30s-'50s film stock.

That’s like asking for new antiques.

make new processing equipment that is exactly the same as the old.

Ridiculous. Soon you’ll be asking for new releases on LaserDisc.

I just want a new movie made exactly the same way movies used to be made.

Possessed said:

Warbler said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Possessed said:

Warbler said:

I think if I were to make a movie, I think I’d to make it with old technology. Make it exactly the same way they did in the 30’s, 40’s, or 50’s. I don’t know it would be in glorious black and white or three-strip technicolor(and I don’t mean a digital re-creation, I mean the real thing). I wouldn’t want to use any newer technologies, or techniques. I would want it to be as old fashion as possible.

I too like to spend unnecessarily excessive amounts of money and do things as inconveniently as possible to get similar results.

I imagine it’d be tricky getting ahold of usuable '30s-'50s film stock, and processing equipment from those decades probably doesn’t exist anymore.

make new '30s-'50s film stock.

OK.

make new processing equipment that is exactly the same as the old.

Sounds reasonable

*shrugs shoulders*

There would be no digital editing of my film. It would all be done as it used to be. Of course the finished product could be scanned digitally for release on 4k blu ray and whatnot.

Warbler said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Warbler said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Possessed said:

Warbler said:

I think if I were to make a movie, I think I’d to make it with old technology. Make it exactly the same way they did in the 30’s, 40’s, or 50’s. I don’t know it would be in glorious black and white or three-strip technicolor(and I don’t mean a digital re-creation, I mean the real thing). I wouldn’t want to use any newer technologies, or techniques. I would want it to be as old fashion as possible.

I too like to spend unnecessarily excessive amounts of money and do things as inconveniently as possible to get similar results.

I imagine it’d be tricky getting ahold of usuable '30s-'50s film stock, and processing equipment from those decades probably doesn’t exist anymore.

make new '30s-'50s film stock.

That’s like asking for new antiques.

make new processing equipment that is exactly the same as the old.

Ridiculous. Soon you’ll be asking for new releases on LaserDisc.

I just want a new movie made exactly the same way movies used to be made.

It isn’t possible.

DuracellEnergizer said:

Warbler said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Warbler said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Possessed said:

Warbler said:

I think if I were to make a movie, I think I’d to make it with old technology. Make it exactly the same way they did in the 30’s, 40’s, or 50’s. I don’t know it would be in glorious black and white or three-strip technicolor(and I don’t mean a digital re-creation, I mean the real thing). I wouldn’t want to use any newer technologies, or techniques. I would want it to be as old fashion as possible.

I too like to spend unnecessarily excessive amounts of money and do things as inconveniently as possible to get similar results.

I imagine it’d be tricky getting ahold of usuable '30s-'50s film stock, and processing equipment from those decades probably doesn’t exist anymore.

make new '30s-'50s film stock.

That’s like asking for new antiques.

make new processing equipment that is exactly the same as the old.

Ridiculous. Soon you’ll be asking for new releases on LaserDisc.

I just want a new movie made exactly the same way movies used to be made.

It isn’t possible.

What could be done in the 30’s, 40’s, and 50’s can still be done today.

Dek Rollins said:

I sometimes wonder why nobody can properly replicate the look of a film from the era they’re trying to pay homage to. Like how Stranger Things was supposed to be so eighties but it looks just like most modern productions.

Stranger Things looks more late '90s/early '00s to me, but I get ya.

Warbler said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Warbler said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Warbler said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Possessed said:

Warbler said:

I think if I were to make a movie, I think I’d to make it with old technology. Make it exactly the same way they did in the 30’s, 40’s, or 50’s. I don’t know it would be in glorious black and white or three-strip technicolor(and I don’t mean a digital re-creation, I mean the real thing). I wouldn’t want to use any newer technologies, or techniques. I would want it to be as old fashion as possible.

I too like to spend unnecessarily excessive amounts of money and do things as inconveniently as possible to get similar results.

I imagine it’d be tricky getting ahold of usuable '30s-'50s film stock, and processing equipment from those decades probably doesn’t exist anymore.

make new '30s-'50s film stock.

That’s like asking for new antiques.

make new processing equipment that is exactly the same as the old.

Ridiculous. Soon you’ll be asking for new releases on LaserDisc.

I just want a new movie made exactly the same way movies used to be made.

It isn’t possible.

What could be done in the 30’s, 40’s, and 50’s can still be done today.

Yeah, and I’m sure it’s physically possible to rebuild the technological infrastructure to make LaserDiscs, too. Thing is it would cost money, too much money, for something that would appeal only to a barely existent niche group.

oh well.

Dek Rollins said:

a digital readout of all shots/frames in the final cut is created (I forget what this is s called)

That would be an EDL, or Edit Decision List.

SEE, MOM? MY DEGREE WASN’T A COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY!

Possessed said:

Sounds like a whole lot of effort for the same thing. Shooting on film i understand. Doing the editing and post work on film seems unnecessarily complicated, difficult, and expensive for a final result that would be nearly indistinguishable (again not talking about doing the initial shooting on film). Especially considering almost any place that would show your film would just show it digitally anyway. And you could still make prints of it anyway.

But then again I’m not speaking from a film enthusiasts perspective.

Pretty much what Dek said. If you do it that way, you’re limited to the resolution of your digital intermediate, and it would be much more difficult to go back and find all the negative to rescan if it wasn’t already conformed to the locked picture edit if you wanted to get it in higher resolution.

This is why a lot of 4K UHD releases are upscaled 2K - because their digital intermediate was 2K and it’s too expensive to find all the right takes from the negative and rescan them at 4K. That, and most CGI is done at 2K even today, so effects-heavy movies will probably always be upscaled from 2K.

Warbler said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Warbler said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Possessed said:

Warbler said:

I think if I were to make a movie, I think I’d to make it with old technology. Make it exactly the same way they did in the 30’s, 40’s, or 50’s. I don’t know it would be in glorious black and white or three-strip technicolor(and I don’t mean a digital re-creation, I mean the real thing). I wouldn’t want to use any newer technologies, or techniques. I would want it to be as old fashion as possible.

I too like to spend unnecessarily excessive amounts of money and do things as inconveniently as possible to get similar results.

I imagine it’d be tricky getting ahold of usuable '30s-'50s film stock, and processing equipment from those decades probably doesn’t exist anymore.

make new '30s-'50s film stock.

That’s like asking for new antiques.

make new processing equipment that is exactly the same as the old.

Ridiculous. Soon you’ll be asking for new releases on LaserDisc.

I just want a new movie made exactly the same way movies used to be made.

So entirely by white men. Gotcha.

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Warbler said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Possessed said:

Warbler said:

I think if I were to make a movie, I think I’d to make it with old technology. Make it exactly the same way they did in the 30’s, 40’s, or 50’s. I don’t know it would be in glorious black and white or three-strip technicolor(and I don’t mean a digital re-creation, I mean the real thing). I wouldn’t want to use any newer technologies, or techniques. I would want it to be as old fashion as possible.

I too like to spend unnecessarily excessive amounts of money and do things as inconveniently as possible to get similar results.

I imagine it’d be tricky getting ahold of usuable '30s-'50s film stock, and processing equipment from those decades probably doesn’t exist anymore.

make new '30s-'50s film stock.

That’s like asking for new antiques.

make new processing equipment that is exactly the same as the old.

Ridiculous. Soon you’ll be asking for new releases on LaserDisc.

I just want a new movie made exactly the same way movies used to be made.

So entirely by white men. Gotcha.

that is not what I meant and that was totally uncalled for.

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Warbler said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Possessed said:

Warbler said:

I think if I were to make a movie, I think I’d to make it with old technology. Make it exactly the same way they did in the 30’s, 40’s, or 50’s. I don’t know it would be in glorious black and white or three-strip technicolor(and I don’t mean a digital re-creation, I mean the real thing). I wouldn’t want to use any newer technologies, or techniques. I would want it to be as old fashion as possible.

I too like to spend unnecessarily excessive amounts of money and do things as inconveniently as possible to get similar results.

I imagine it’d be tricky getting ahold of usuable '30s-'50s film stock, and processing equipment from those decades probably doesn’t exist anymore.

make new '30s-'50s film stock.

That’s like asking for new antiques.

make new processing equipment that is exactly the same as the old.

Ridiculous. Soon you’ll be asking for new releases on LaserDisc.

I just want a new movie made exactly the same way movies used to be made.

So entirely by white men. Gotcha.

that is not what I meant and that was totally uncalled for.

Was it?

I wasn’t saying anything about you, I was saying something about Hollywood.

Mrebo said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Warbler said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Possessed said:

Warbler said:

I think if I were to make a movie, I think I’d to make it with old technology. Make it exactly the same way they did in the 30’s, 40’s, or 50’s. I don’t know it would be in glorious black and white or three-strip technicolor(and I don’t mean a digital re-creation, I mean the real thing). I wouldn’t want to use any newer technologies, or techniques. I would want it to be as old fashion as possible.

I too like to spend unnecessarily excessive amounts of money and do things as inconveniently as possible to get similar results.

I imagine it’d be tricky getting ahold of usuable '30s-'50s film stock, and processing equipment from those decades probably doesn’t exist anymore.

make new '30s-'50s film stock.

That’s like asking for new antiques.

make new processing equipment that is exactly the same as the old.

Ridiculous. Soon you’ll be asking for new releases on LaserDisc.

I just want a new movie made exactly the same way movies used to be made.

So entirely by white men. Gotcha.

Go watch more Star Wars.

Which Star Wars.

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Warbler said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Possessed said:

Warbler said:

I think if I were to make a movie, I think I’d to make it with old technology. Make it exactly the same way they did in the 30’s, 40’s, or 50’s. I don’t know it would be in glorious black and white or three-strip technicolor(and I don’t mean a digital re-creation, I mean the real thing). I wouldn’t want to use any newer technologies, or techniques. I would want it to be as old fashion as possible.

I too like to spend unnecessarily excessive amounts of money and do things as inconveniently as possible to get similar results.

I imagine it’d be tricky getting ahold of usuable '30s-'50s film stock, and processing equipment from those decades probably doesn’t exist anymore.

make new '30s-'50s film stock.

That’s like asking for new antiques.

make new processing equipment that is exactly the same as the old.

Ridiculous. Soon you’ll be asking for new releases on LaserDisc.

I just want a new movie made exactly the same way movies used to be made.

So entirely by white men. Gotcha.

that is not what I meant and that was totally uncalled for.

Was it?

Yes, it is not what I meant.

It is clear in this thread were talking about the technical aspects of making films, just take a look at the first post of the thread. My comment about wanting a film made exactly the same way as movies used to be made had to do with the technical aspects of making a film, not the race or gender of those making film. I thought that would be obvious.

I wasn’t saying anything about you,

sure could have fooled me.

I was saying something about Hollywood.

Your post was poorly worded if that is what you meant.

p.s. Look at the thread title and original post. I don’t think it is the proper thread for a discussion of the history and current problems of racism in Hollywood.

Warbler.