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I can’t do that because of the events of Star Trek 2009.
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And yet according to official canon, the Prime Universe and Kelvin Timeline are separate, co-existing timelines.
I thought you submitted to official canon?
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Official canon must abide by the events in the various movies and tv series’, this includes Star Trek 2009.
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The established canon for the Kelvin “timeline” is that it is in fact actually an entirely different alternate reality:
Star Trek Online said:
The sheer destruction from the Hobus supernova has weakened the barrier between our reality and one strangely similar to our own, leaving a strange temporal anomaly in its wake. This anomaly serves as a gateway between our universe… and a quantum universe both similar and different to our own.
Simon Pegg said:
Canon tells us, Hikaru Sulu was born before the Kelvin incident, so how could his fundamental humanity be altered? Well, the explanation comes down to something very Star Treky; theoretical, quantum physics and the less than simple fact that time is not linear. Sure, we experience time as a contiguous series of cascading events but perception and reality aren’t always the same thing. Spock’s incursion from the Prime Universe created a multidimensional reality shift. The rift in space/time created an entirely new reality in all directions, top to bottom, from the Big Bang to the end of everything. As such this reality was, is and always will be subtly different from the Prime Universe. I don’t believe for one second that Gene Roddenberry wouldn’t have loved the idea of an alternate reality (Mirror, Mirror anyone?). This means, and this is absolutely key, the Kelvin universe can evolve and change in ways that don’t necessarily have to follow the Prime Universe at any point in history, before or after the events of Star Trek ‘09, it can mutate and subvert
So it’s actually the Kelvin Universe.
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I can’t do that because of the events of Star Trek 2009.
You’re giving me a brain aneurysm.
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I tried to explain it before, but no one wants to listen.
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It tried to explain it before, but no one wants to listen.
Adults usually can’t see Pennywise. That explains it.
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Warb acts as if Trek has always used consistent time travel mechanics prior to ST '09, which isn’t true at all. Just compare “The City on the Edge of Forever” and “Time’s Arrow”. The former shows that history is mutable and can be changed, the latter shows that history is fixed and any attempts to alter events in the past will bring those events into being anyway.
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Almost every time travel episode uses a different method and follows a different theory about how time travel works.
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Almost every time travel episode uses a different method and follows a different theory about how time travel works.
All you need to do is slingshot around the sun, which does not create a new timeline (According to Scotty and Kirk).
Or use some Chronometric particles, which may or may not create a new timeline (Depending on if the Borg actually assimilated the Earth in an alternate universe where the Enterprise didn’t intervene).
Or get sucked into a black hole, which explicitly does create a new timeline (According to New Spock).
You probably don’t recognize me because of the red arm.
Episode 9 Rewrite, The Starlight Project (Released!) and ANH Technicolor Project (Released!)
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Almost every time travel episode uses a different method and follows a different theory about how time travel works.
You’re gonna give Warbler a heart attack.
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Why do aliens in the 24th century have to travel back in time to a different planet just to eat?
Where were you in '77?
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Pretend it’s Kelvin timeline.
I believe in that timeline, everybody’s dead.
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The established canon for the Kelvin “timeline” is that it is in fact actually an entirely different alternate reality:
That is not the way it appears in Star Trek 2009.
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*sigh*
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The established canon for the Kelvin “timeline” is that it is in fact actually an entirely different alternate reality:
That is not the way it appears in Star Trek 2009.
That is exactly how it appeared and was intended to appear.
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Why do aliens in the 24th century have to travel back in time to a different planet just to eat?
huh?
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The established canon for the Kelvin “timeline” is that it is in fact actually an entirely different alternate reality:
That is not the way it appears in Star Trek 2009.
That is exactly how it appeared and was intended to appear.
That is not the meaning I got out of Star Trek 2009.
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The established canon for the Kelvin “timeline” is that it is in fact actually an entirely different alternate reality:
That is not the way it appears in Star Trek 2009.
That is exactly how it appeared and was intended to appear.
That is not the meaning I got out of Star Trek 2009.
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*sigh*
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Why do aliens in the 24th century have to travel back in time to a different planet just to eat?
huh?
The aliens in TNG Time’s Arrow who dine out in 19th century San Francisco.
Where were you in '77?
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*sigh*
Are you ex*sigh*table?
*sigh*
Are you ex*sigh*table?
*SIGH*
Are you ex*sigh*table?
*SIGH*
Are you ex*sigh*table?
*SIGH*
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How is all manners of blood and violence “family friendly” but saying something is “fucking awesome” not?
Trek could get violent, but I don’t know if I’d say it ever got gratuitously violent. Even an episode with brutal torture scenes like “Chain of Command” was in the service of some kind of sociopolitical commentary or something. It was rare to see sex or violence on it which wasn’t narratively justified or was incredibly shocking just for the sake of shock value. I can’t think of any examples offhand.
“What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.”
Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death
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Official canon must abide by the events in the various movies and tv series’, this includes Star Trek 2009.
Star Trek 2009 has some rather significant events which take place in the Prime Universe though, even if they’re largely references rather than shown; the destruction of Romulus and the disappearance of Spock being key.
“What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.”
Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death