Video Games - a general discussion thread — Page 362

I don’t yet have any interest in the switch. When I finish playing through the twilight princess remake for wiiu I plan on picking up breath of the wild for the wiiu.

So a few weeks ago I played through GoldenEye on the N64 and finished the entire thing on 00 Agent difficulty, something I’d only ever done once before (about a year ago). A lot of the levels are perfectly doable, but man, those last few are crazy. The Aztec on 00? Holy crap! It can take several tries just to make it out of the first room alive, let alone surviving the rest of it. The enemies are so insanely fast and have such good aim, you have to be really careful to stay on top of it and not make any mistakes, otherwise you’re a goner…

Now I’m playing through Perfect Dark, on Perfect Agent difficulty; and as hard as GoldenEye is, this makes it look like a walk in the park. Most of the tricks that could be used in GE to avoid taking damage from enemies no longer work, enemy gunfire depletes your health much more rapidly, and the whole thing seems to have been designed to appeal to people with a masochistic need for punishment in their games. Last year I did manage to get through all the regular levels (though not the bonus levels), but many of them required multiple attempts before I could pull it off. I’m pretty sure I must have tried and failed to beat the Skedar Attack Ship at least 35 times before finally managing to scrape through with almost no health left. It is brutally unforgiving, and if you make more than one mistake in the beginning, you pretty much have no chance of completing it. I want to see if I can beat them all again, but I’m not entirely convinced I’ll be able to manage it this time!

GoldenEye and Perfect Dark are one of the main reasons why I eschew N64 emulation in favor of using the real system (and was willing to spend $400 on the Framemeister to get acceptable picture quality from it). There are far too many graphics glitches and emulation inaccuracies when trying to run these on the computer, to the point that it often hardly even feels like playing the same game. Using a non-N64 controller for games designed with a six-button layout in mind is also really irritating, and trying to dial in the joystick sensitivity to allow the weapon aiming to work the way it’s supposed to is an exercise in frustration. Much better to just use the original version, which ‘just works’, and skip all that other garbage.

They’re are certainly some games that don’t work well with emulation and should be played on the real thing, but there are also many cases (ahem BOTH ZELDAS cough) where emulation can provide a Superior experience to the real thing. Not just generating the models at a higher resolution but also hi defv texture packs, of which there are some for Zelda that maintain the same tone and art style but at a higher resolution and with actual fine detail.

chyron8472 said:

Possessed said:

(ahem BOTH ZELDAS cough)

Both? …Oh! You mean both N64 Zelda games. For me, those are just two among many, given that I have every Zelda game ever made for a set top console (except the HD remakes for Wii U). Since I can play every single one of them with my Wii and my Switch, I don’t bother with emulating them on my PC.

Hey, great, I wasn’t replying to you though. And yes your Wii can play them, but not in 1080p with enhanced high definition texture packs.

chyron8472 said:

You weren’t replying to me, but you also weren’t having a private conversation. In public, other people in the room are allowed to chime in now and then.

Absolutely, unfortunately you seemed to have missed the point of the post, which was merely to point out the advantages of emulating the specific two Zelda games for N64 over the console or even on a wii.

ray_afraid said:

chyron8472 said:

what I’m really saying is that I’m a fan of Nintendo and I want to want the Wii U. But at $250 and with no major exclusives that I don’t already have, I can’t justify it and it makes me sad to say so.

Trade “Wii U” for “Switch” and “$250” for “$500” and I totally agree.
The WiiU can run every console Zelda title since the gamecube’s WW.
That’s four games and two remakes. The Switch can only run one.

I’m not knockin’ your choice, I just don’t care to own a Switch yet.

Technically it can run every console Zelda game ever if you factor in the virtual console. So make that 7 and two remakes. 8 if you count the fact that twilight princess had a straight up Wii version that it can run, 10 if you have nintendont so you can run the original GameCube versions. (A very noninvasive and safe softmod. The wiiu can run GameCube games in Wii mode without any special modifications it basically just refuses, all nintendont does is tell it to chill it’s beans and go ahead and load that shit fam, also it loads them in Wii mode so you can play GameCube games with the normal pro controller or classic controller. )

The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D and Majora’s Mask 3D back-to-back on Citra with 6x native resolution, oh yeah! The nostalgia is incomprehensible and it looks so amazing on a big TV. Wind Waker HD, Twilight Princess HD and BotW on Cemu later. I also read good things about Xenoblade Chronicles so I might have to check that out as well since there’s a much-hyped sequel coming soon.

Kinda funny that I’ve never really been a “Nintendo guy” but somehow Zelda snuck into my life out of the blue when I was a kid. I think I borrowed my friend’s SNES and he had A Link to the Past on it. Great memories!

Wonder if any of you die hard Zelda fans who started with the overrated N64 entries ever play any ROMHacks. Parallel Worlds is cool but unnecessarily difficult. Myself, I started playing the Zelda series way back in 1987 when I was but a wee shit at 8 years.
I should replay the EVIL DEAD games for Dreamcast and XBOX Phat before I get around to finish watching ASH vs. EVIL DEAD. Still playing Assassin’s Creed III and EMPIRE: Total War. Also been playing >OBSERVER_ It’s quite a cool PC game, stars Rutger Hauer as the player character, and one of my friends recommended it to me since she knows I’m a huge fan of BLADE RUNNER.
AVEN Colony is neat but all food harvested is vegetarian friendly and I dunno why. Been wanting to play Sid Meier’s Civilization - Beyond Earth but I’ll give it a go later.

Actually my first Zelda game was a link to the past, which is great,but thanks for your input. Your right, the two games that have been in the top 20 best games list that I’ve ever personally read are probably just overrated. Although I do think Majora’s mask is better than ocarina of Time.

RayRogers is overrated. Which is quite an accomplishment considering how lowly he’s rated to begin with.

I was so turned off by Majora’s Mask’s 3-day mechanic at first. But then I found out about the inverted Song of Time and it made all the “stress” disappear, haha. 😃

The sad and dark themes of the story are what make it fantastic for me. And the subtext and metaphors within the story. The game is a metaphor for the stages of grief. Look at the four areas as the stages of dealing with grief. It’s amazing