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I haven’t read it. Vox just has a history of getting almost everything wrong.

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Your laziness on the subject, as well as your unsubstantiated claims, are duly noted.

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moviefreakedmind said:

I haven’t read it. Vox just has a history of getting almost everything wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luTPMHC7zHY&t=0s

This just popped up in my video feed, and I thought that since you were such an expert, you could tell us how they got ‘almost everything wrong’.

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NeverarGreat said:

moviefreakedmind said:

I haven’t read it. Vox just has a history of getting almost everything wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luTPMHC7zHY&t=0s

This just popped up in my video feed, and I thought that since you were such an expert, you could tell us how they got ‘almost everything wrong’.

Sorry, almost everything about your post is wrong, although to be fair, I didn’t actually read it. It’s just that you have a history of posting things that are wrong.

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Woops, Fake News!

“First feel fear, then get angry. Then go with your life into the fight.” - Bill Mollison

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You should support them with a digital subscription. We do.

Fake news isn’t cheap!

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Maybe when someone starts supporting me with real dollars. =P

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John McCain is increasingly mad as hell about President Trump. And on Friday, he went after Trump — hard.

During a speech at the Munich Security Conference in Germany, the Republican senator from Arizona delivered a pointed and striking point-by-point takedown of Trump’s worldview and brand of nationalism. McCain didn’t mention Trump’s name once, but he didn’t have to.

And even considering the two men’s up-and-down history and the terrible things Trump has said about McCain, it was a striking display from a senior leader of a party when it comes to a president of the same party.

In his speech, McCain suggested the Western world is uniquely imperiled this year — even more so than when Barack Obama was president — and proceeded to question whether it will even survive.

“In recent years, this question would invite accusations of hyperbole and alarmism; not this year,” McCain said. “If ever there were a time to treat this question with a deadly seriousness, it is now.”

[Trump’s war with the media isn’t new. Thomas Jefferson railed about ‘newspaper lies,’ too.]

In case there was any doubt that this was about Trump. Here’s what followed:

"[The founders of the Munich conference] would be alarmed by an increasing turn away from universal values and toward old ties of blood and race and sectarianism.”
“They would be alarmed by the hardening resentment we see towards immigrants and refugees and minority groups – especially Muslims.”
“They would be alarmed by the growing inability – and even unwillingness – to separate truth from lies.”
"They would be alarmed that more and more of our fellow citizens seem to be flirting with authoritarianism and romanticizing it as our moral equivalent."
That’s Trump, Trump, Trump and Trump.

McCain continued: “But what would alarm them most, I think, is a sense that many of our peoples, including in my own country, are giving up on the West, that they see it as a bad deal that we may be better off without, and that while Western nations still have the power to maintain our world order, it’s unclear whether we have the will.”

Trump has repeatedly suggested a desire to pull out of or scale back on international involvement and agreements. His slogan is “America first,” after all. And it’s not just on free trade: It’s also when it comes to things like NATO, the transatlantic military alliance that Trump has suggested the United States is getting a bad deal on and has flirted with not enforcing.

Then McCain invoked some of those close to Trump and emphasized that his message won’t square with theirs:

I know there is profound concern across Europe and the world that America is laying down the mantle of global leadership. I can only speak for myself, but I do not believe that that is the message you will hear from all of the American leaders who cared enough to travel here to Munich this weekend. That’s not the message you heard today from Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis. That is not the message you will hear from Vice President Mike Pence. That’s not the message you will hear from Secretary of Homeland Security John Kelly. And that is certainly not the message you will hear tomorrow from our bipartisan congressional delegation.

McCain then concluded with another direct shot at Trump.

“I refuse to accept that our values are morally equivalent to those of our adversaries,” he said. “I am a proud, unapologetic believer in the West, and I believe we must always, always stand up for it. For if we do not, who will?

Two weeks ago, you may recall, Trump suggested the United States didn’t exactly have the moral high ground on Russia. Asked by Fox News host Bill O’Reilly about wanting good relations with a “killer” like Russian President Vladimir Putin, Trump demurred.

“There are a lot of killers. We have a lot of killers,” Trump said. “Well, you think our country is so innocent?”

Ever since, it seems, he and McCain have been on a collision course. McCain didn’t fight back when Trump questioned his war-hero status long ago — perhaps because both men were trying to win elections — but the battle between McCain and the White House is picking up steam.

And on Friday, McCain traveled across the Atlantic to deliver a calculated, planned attack on Trump’s entire system of beliefs.

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Thanks, man.

I really hope McCain really gets back in the fight here and then doesn’t run next election. He should go out on a really high note.

Secretary Mattis also delivered a nice speech at the conference. You know things are bad when the guy nicknamed “Mad Dog” is the sanest man in your administration. Mattis always seemed to me like Trump’s only good pick, so hopefully he can do some good there.

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The Wrath Of McCain. 😉

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Yeah Mattis is pretty reasonable, despite the nickname (and I can only assume that’s why Trump picked him, not realizing he isn’t actually insane).

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DominicCobb said:

Yeah Mattis is pretty reasonable, despite the nickname (and I can only assume that’s why Trump picked him, not realizing he isn’t actually insane).

Yeah, I only kid about the nickname. It’s probably tame as far as the military goes.

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Yeah, while I’m all for being wary of stuff, I always kinda roll my eyes whenever I hear “Will we even have elections next year?!” or “He’s just like a fascist/Hitler” or “Just wait for the internment camps to start popping up!”

But god damn does he make a piss-poor case for himself when he says shit like that.

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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-canada-refugees-idUSKBN15W2GN

Nine asylum-seekers, including four children, barely made it across the Canadian border on Friday as a U.S. border patrol officer tried to stop them and a Reuters photographer captured the scene.

As a U.S. Customs and Border Patrol officer seized their passports and questioned a man in the front passenger seat of a taxi that had pulled up to the border in Champlain, New York, four adults and four young children fled the cab and ran to Royal Canadian Mounted Police on the other side.

One by one they scrambled across the snowy gully separating the two countries. RCMP officers watching from the other side helped them up, lifting the younger children and asking a woman, who leaned on her fellow passenger as she walked, if she needed medical care.

The children looked back from where they had come as the U.S. officer held the first man, saying his papers needed to be verified.

The man turned to a pile of belongings and heaved pieces of luggage two at a time into the gully – enormous wheeled suitcases, plastic shopping bags, a black backpack.

“Nobody cares about us,” he told journalists. He said they were all from Sudan and had been living and working in Delaware for two years.

How this is a headline in America in 2017 is so far beyond my comprehension. The state of our nation today is absolutely pathetic and embarrassing.

The idea that people are fleeing our nation because they feel like we don’t care about them is so antithesis to what this nation should and used to stand for that it makes me livid and sick to my stomach. We are not some war-torn third-world failed state, we are the United States of America, the supposed bastion of peace and freedom and the embodiment of “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.” These people left their home country to come to the home of the brave and the land of the free to pursue our vaunted American Dream, and the fact that they literally fled the country two years later saying “nobody cares about us” means that we, as their fellow Americans, failed them. And for that we should feel great shame.

I only hope that we can one day be a great nation worthy of adulation and the aspirations of the rest of the world again. Until then, I hang my head.

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^ Well said.

“Make America Great Again”. Trump is making that phrase more true by the day LOL.

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"Has anyone tried the new Trump sandwich? It’s two pieces of white bread with baloney, Russian dressing on the side and a teeny weeny pickle." 😃

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http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/sen-mccain-meet-press-defends-free-press-after-trump-tweet-n722831

Speaking from Germany, where he was attending the Munich Security Conference, McCain said that without a free press, “I am afraid that we would lose so much of our individual liberties over time. That’s how dictators get started.”

McCain clarified that he wasn’t referring to the president as a dictator, but that attacks on journalists who are questioning those in power are usually a hallmark of autocratic governments.

“When you look at history,” McCain said, “the first thing that dictators do is shut down the press. And I’m not saying that President Trump is trying to be a dictator. I’m just saying we need to learn the lessons of history.”