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finally saw The Revenant on demand, spread over two days, with subtitles and sound way low. not my favorite way to watch movies, but the new normal since we have a 13 month old.

I am pretty indifferent to it. Certainly having a movie set in the great outdoors makes it hard to make a movie, and they did a great job at that. But it isn’t a movie i am likely to want to see again. Leonardo DiCaprio did a pretty darn good job. As did Tom Hardy.

JEDIT: I give this a score of 7^

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generalfrevious said:

I wish Boyhood was a universally beloved masterpiece instead of a polarizing film. I’m now reluctant to revisit it, when some people consider it the worst film of 2014.

As per usual, you make no sense.

First of all, most people do consider it a masterpiece. It’s not all that polarizing. Certainly it has its detractors, but they are a minority. Anyone calling it the worst film of 2014 is simply doing so out of hyperbole.

Second of all, didn’t you like the film when you first saw it?
http://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/720567

Do you really think the film is so terrible as to be “indefensible” just because Red Letter Media didn’t like it?

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DominicCobb said:

generalfrevious said:

I wish Boyhood was a universally beloved masterpiece instead of a polarizing film. I’m now reluctant to revisit it, when some people consider it the worst film of 2014.

As per usual, you make no sense.

First of all, most people do consider it a masterpiece. It’s not all that polarizing. Certainly it has its detractors, but they are a minority. Anyone calling it the worst film of 2014 is simply doing so out of hyperbole.

Second of all, didn’t you like the film when you first saw it?
http://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/720567

Do you really think the film is so terrible as to be “indefensible” just because Red Letter Media didn’t like it?

Paradigm shift. I didn’t realize at the time that Boyhood had bad acting & dialogue until Half in the Bag pointed it out to me. Then I thought about the film and gradually realized they were right, even though I loved the film when I saw it in the theater.

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ray_afraid said:

generalfrevious said:

I didn’t realize at the time that Boyhood had bad acting & dialogue until Half in the Bag pointed it out to me.

I’m so sick of sheep who can’t watch something and make their own opinion.
I love RLM and often agree with the Half in the Bag reviews. But learn to think for yourself, eh?

I don’t think it’s being a “sheep” to change your mind after someone points out flaws in a movie you didn’t notice before.

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Sure, plot holes and such can be revealed and change your perspective. But if you’ve watched the film and liked it, then somebody says they thought the acting was bad and the story was stupid, why would that change your opinion? If you watched and liked the movie, then those gripes obviously don’t apply for you. Why take someone’s experience with a film over your own?

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ray_afraid said:

Sure, plot holes and such can be revealed and change your perspective. But if you’ve watched the film and liked it, then somebody says they thought the acting was bad and the story was stupid, why would that change your opinion? If you watched and liked the movie, then those gripes obviously don’t apply for you. Why take someone’s experience with a film over your own?

Exactly.

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Maybe this hypothetical personal was so distracted by the amazing acting that they didn’t realize the plot was nonsensical, or vice versa.

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But we’re not talking about a hypothetical person. We’re talking about generalfrevious. And he’s now saying that the acting, dialog and story he liked when he watched, is now crap 'cause RLM said so- not because that was his personal experience with the film.
That’s a sheep.

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Jeebus said:

Maybe this hypothetical personal was so distracted by the amazing acting that they didn’t realize the plot was nonsensical, or vice versa.

Even so, if that amazing element caused the person to really like the movie, they shouldn’t begin to hate it because of a less good aspect they didn’t notice. No film is perfect, there’s always going to be something that could have been done better. But what’s ultimately the most important is your experience with the film and how you felt about it. Just because a film has issues doesn’t mean you have to dislike it.

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generalfrevious said:

Never in the 200,000 years of human storytelling is there a more overrated narrative than Boyhood. This film is so incompetently made it makes Manos look like The Godfather. Proof that too much marijuana can hollow out a person’s brain like Richard Linklater’s.

I don’t know what you used to hollow out your brain, but it was clearly an effective method.

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ray_afraid said:

generalfrevious said:

I didn’t realize at the time that Boyhood had bad acting & dialogue until Half in the Bag pointed it out to me.

I’m so sick of sheep who can’t watch something and make their own opinion.
I love RLM and often agree with the Half in the Bag reviews. But learn to think for yourself, eh?

Exactly. I love RLM but there fanboys treat their reviews like the Bible. generalfrevious is a perfect example of a person who can’t form an opinion of his own if he’s unwilling to like a movie if someone he likes didn’t like it.

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I thought Boyhood was pretty good by the way. I’ll probably never watch it again though.

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Boyhood is typical of indie films in this era. That is its problem combined with a lack of any real direction. The gimmick in the production won over too many folks who then wrote off the problems due to it being “more authentic” and made over 12 years.

It’s okay, but just okay.

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I can never understand how people can flip so completely on films (and music for that matter) that they once loved. The Phantom Menace was the first Star Wars film I ever saw at age 10 and I loved it. Even though I now realize it’s objectively a bad movie I still really enjoy watching it. I actively try to not let any one else’s opinion effect my own personal enjoyment/connection with things, they certainly impact by objective view but I try to enjoy everything I watch as much as I can regardless!
I think in this IMDB ratings/RT score age we’re all getting caught up in whether something is objectionably good or not that we completely forgot to enjoy ourselves.

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Casino Royale.

The best bad movie ever made.
The one film they should use to teach everyone what NOT to do. EVER. UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES.
A bomb if there ever was one, a dud, beyond a mess, throwing in the kitchen sink doesn’t even begin to describe it…a production that was a complete nightmare and should have had the plug pulled at any time…
And yet…
God help me I think it is a masterpiece. It gets better every time, it is full of charm, you see flashes of what a Niven Bond would have been like, there are genuine funny moments, the score is a masterwork and has staggering fidelity, the cast is beyond a dream even if most are cameos, and ultimately the painstaking patching together of the mess of materials in the edit bay actually does work in a weird way.
This is the 60’s in a bottle, combined with old studio system excess and spymania.

Thank heaven it exists. It always helps to wash away the bitterness of the increasingly stupid Austin Powers gags.

I may be the only person in the world who feels this way and watches it at least yearly.

And oh dear god, the Colgems stereo USA LP is one of the finest sounding things you will ever hear. Fidelity that knocks you down flat!

And the mono mix is preferable to the 5.1 despite the latter perhaps being from the 70mm run.

VADER!? WHERE THE HELL IS MY MOCHA LATTE? -Palpy on a very bad day.
“George didn’t think there was any future in dead Han toys.”-Harrison Ford
YT channel:
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SkyderHouseMafia said:

I can never understand how people can flip so completely on films (and music for that matter) that they once loved. The Phantom Menace was the first Star Wars film I ever saw at age 10 and I loved it. Even though I now realize it’s objectively a bad movie I still really enjoy watching it. I actively try to not let any one else’s opinion effect my own personal enjoyment/connection with things, they certainly impact by objective view but I try to enjoy everything I watch as much as I can regardless!
I think in this IMDB ratings/RT score age we’re all getting caught up in whether something is objectionably good or not that we completely forgot to enjoy ourselves.

You aren’t allowed to enjoy anything if people around you don’t like it. If RLM said Gone with the Wind was worse than the Garbage Pail Kids movie, generalfrevious would immediately amp up the crazy and write a novel in this thread about how that’s how he feels now.

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SkyderHouseMafia said:

I can never understand how people can flip so completely on films (and music for that matter) that they once loved. The Phantom Menace was the first Star Wars film I ever saw at age 10 and I loved it. Even though I now realize it’s objectively a bad movie I still really enjoy watching it. I actively try to not let any one else’s opinion effect my own personal enjoyment/connection with things, they certainly impact by objective view but I try to enjoy everything I watch as much as I can regardless!
I think in this IMDB ratings/RT score age we’re all getting caught up in whether something is objectionably good or not that we completely forgot to enjoy ourselves.

Absolutely. I still stick up for TPM which is something I don’t do for any subsequent film ask still find things to enjoy in it.

VADER!? WHERE THE HELL IS MY MOCHA LATTE? -Palpy on a very bad day.
“George didn’t think there was any future in dead Han toys.”-Harrison Ford
YT channel:
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DominicCobb said:

Jeebus said:

Maybe this hypothetical personal was so distracted by the amazing acting that they didn’t realize the plot was nonsensical, or vice versa.

Even so, if that amazing element caused the person to really like the movie, they shouldn’t begin to hate it because of a less good aspect they didn’t notice. No film is perfect, there’s always going to be something that could have been done better. But what’s ultimately the most important is your experience with the film and how you felt about it. Just because a film has issues doesn’t mean you have to dislike it.

Exactly.

For a long time, Stargate was my #1 favourite film. I tried to watch it at least once a week and recommended it to anyone I could, even if I suspected it wasn’t the type of movie for them. Then around 2008, after I got regular Internet access, I became exposed to the various opinions people had on Stargate, learned about all the plotholes, leaps in logic, and general gaffes I hadn’t noticed myself, and became aware of just how flawed the film really was.

Nowadays, I don’t consider Stargate my #1 favourite; to be quite honest, on my list of favourite films, it sits right there down on the bottom. I still consider it a favourite, though, and I still get enjoyment out of it regardless of its glaring imperfections.

Frevious is just being frevious – allowing the naysayers to make up his mind for him and trying oh-so-very hard to say even more nays than they ever did.

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SkyderHouseMafia said:

I can never understand how people can flip so completely on films (and music for that matter) that they once loved. The Phantom Menace was the first Star Wars film I ever saw at age 10 and I loved it. Even though I now realize it’s objectively a bad movie I still really enjoy watching it.

It’s called “maturity.”

And I’m not taking a shot at your age, I was 26 when I saw it in the theaters three times and loved it. But only because I wanted to. Then I found this place (and FE) and grew up.

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TV’s Frink said:

SkyderHouseMafia said:

I can never understand how people can flip so completely on films (and music for that matter) that they once loved. The Phantom Menace was the first Star Wars film I ever saw at age 10 and I loved it. Even though I now realize it’s objectively a bad movie I still really enjoy watching it.

It’s called “maturity.”

And I’m not taking a shot at your age, I was 26 when I saw it in the theaters three times and loved it. But only because I wanted to. Then I found this place (and FE) and grew up.

So you’re not taking a shot at my age just my maturity 😉 (I’m joking, it’s all cool)
Yeah, I get what you’re saying but…I think that once I commit to liking something and develop a connection with it, I don’t lose that. My tastes continue to evolve and broaden as I get older but they aren’t overwritten - but that’s just me!

captainsolo said:

Casino Royale.

The best bad movie ever made.
The one film they should use to teach everyone what NOT to do. EVER. UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES.

I read ‘Casino Royale’ then skipped to the start of your review and mentally freaked out. Then I saw ‘1967’ and took a deep breath hahah…

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SkyderHouseMafia said:

TV’s Frink said:

SkyderHouseMafia said:

I can never understand how people can flip so completely on films (and music for that matter) that they once loved. The Phantom Menace was the first Star Wars film I ever saw at age 10 and I loved it. Even though I now realize it’s objectively a bad movie I still really enjoy watching it.

It’s called “maturity.”

And I’m not taking a shot at your age, I was 26 when I saw it in the theaters three times and loved it. But only because I wanted to. Then I found this place (and FE) and grew up.

So you’re not taking a shot at my age just my maturity 😉 (I’m joking, it’s all cool)
Yeah, I get what you’re saying but…I think that once I commit to liking something and develop a connection with it, I don’t lose that. My tastes continue to evolve and broaden as I get older but they aren’t overwritten - but that’s just me!

captainsolo said:

Casino Royale.

The best bad movie ever made.
The one film they should use to teach everyone what NOT to do. EVER. UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES.

I read ‘Casino Royale’ then skipped to the start of your review and mentally freaked out. Then I saw ‘1967’ and took a deep breath hahah…

IIRC, he thinks 2006 Casino Royale sucks too.

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suspiciouscoffee said:

SkyderHouseMafia said:

TV’s Frink said:

SkyderHouseMafia said:

I can never understand how people can flip so completely on films (and music for that matter) that they once loved. The Phantom Menace was the first Star Wars film I ever saw at age 10 and I loved it. Even though I now realize it’s objectively a bad movie I still really enjoy watching it.

It’s called “maturity.”

And I’m not taking a shot at your age, I was 26 when I saw it in the theaters three times and loved it. But only because I wanted to. Then I found this place (and FE) and grew up.

So you’re not taking a shot at my age just my maturity 😉 (I’m joking, it’s all cool)
Yeah, I get what you’re saying but…I think that once I commit to liking something and develop a connection with it, I don’t lose that. My tastes continue to evolve and broaden as I get older but they aren’t overwritten - but that’s just me!

captainsolo said:

Casino Royale.

The best bad movie ever made.
The one film they should use to teach everyone what NOT to do. EVER. UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES.

I read ‘Casino Royale’ then skipped to the start of your review and mentally freaked out. Then I saw ‘1967’ and took a deep breath hahah…

IIRC, he thinks 2006 Casino Royale sucks too.

He thinks all the Daniel Craig Bond films suck. Which makes no sense.

Not enough people read the EU.