Sepharih said:
This is really rough and needs sound FX as well as further audio editing, but I just wanted to see how people felt about this as an alternative to the silly "high ground" dialogue in ROTS.
You want to remove that? Don't try it!
Oh.
Actually, that was pretty good.
^That clip worked really well!
Yeah, if fixed up that would be a significant improvement. Effective and more emotional.
Good start Sepharih, I actually liked that lol WOW good job indeed
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Sweet. I'll put that in my list of things to iron out further in the future.
Right, it's rough you said, and needs a tune up, but it works very well. Nice.
ben_danger said:
^Someone did an amazing music cut of the pod race to a Close Encounters a while back.
The Podrace actually had music written for portions of it: The Race Begins (OST), Lap Three (UE), and Anakin Defeats Sebula (OST)
Here is a rough guestimation of where they would have appeared: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp4-lOkEU8Y
John Williams score to Return of the Jedi Remastered/Remixed:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/JOHN-WILLIAMS-Star-Wars-Episode-VI-Return-of-the-Jedi-Remastered-Edition/topic/14606/page/1/
I posted this several months ago. I included music from Close Encounters, the original Lost In Space, and snippets of A New Hope.
Here's a small update since last summer. Lots of layers of sound still to be added.
Well I dont know what your goal was with this vid, but it certainly looks very close to th OT style
I really liked that, but seeing as there was no music originally for the majority of that sequence, why not use the sound effects that are already there?
I like the cut, but Ben Burtt's original sound effects there was what MADE the Podrace.
Good editing, but the music all sounds very incidental. Why not cull some more thematic stuff from, say, the Shadows of the Empire soundtrack?
Regarding the pod race edited scene, I like the suspicious look the scene gets when the editor reverses the camera movement in the establishing shot; it feels more menacing and otish that way.
It's an interesting concept; you reverse the shot, so that the camera instead of approaching a point, reveals a bigger panorama. I wander how many cases of that sort could we have all throughout the PT.
Maybe it could work at some point in AOTC and ROTS, but don't know where... thoughts?
I think there are a few establishing shots in RoTS that consist of the camera zooming in on the Jedi temple - maybe reverse some of those?
Or, if you wanted to take the effect even further, start with Anakin's march on the temple as a closeup of his face that gradually zooms out to reveal all the stormtroopers.
Judge said:
Or, if you wanted to take the effect even further, start with Anakin's march on the temple as a closeup of his face that gradually zooms out to reveal all the stormtroopers.
That's honestly one of the best ideas I've ever heard.
One of my goals in the podrace edit was to get rid of the bad taste that the whole movie gave me. Burtt did some great sound for the scene but whenever I hear them now I can only think of all the bad elements of the film. It's guilt by association, if you will. It's a personal thing with me.
I love the podrace edit. It works so much better. My suggestion would be to reinclude some of the other racers, mainly to help with handeling some continuity issues, such as the varying distance between Anakin and Sebulba, but your edit really builds up the tension.
Fleabite said:
Here's a small update since last summer. Lots of layers of sound still to be added.
That was pretty cool. Were you going for a whole grindhouse look for the footage?
Also, I found this
http://www.fanderson.org.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=303
It's got a ton of sound effects that have been accumulated from old 50s-80s shows and movies, might they be of any interest to you?
A couple of them are on youtube if you want to hear them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZWYBShwTts&feature=related
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Here was my original synopsis for the edit-
This is my re-edit of the pod race sequence for what I hoped would be a larger project that laziness has prevented me from getting into at this point. My idea was for the prequels to have been made in a world where George Lucas had made all six films in order and thus Phantom Menace would have been originally released in the mid-1960s. I wanted to give it that sort of a feel by utilizing some of John Williams earlier works into the music track (which has necessitated an all new sound FX track that I have barely started. I have the music and video portions complete, however).
The story itself is self-contained and episodic. Qui-Gon Ginn arrives on Tatoonine alone as a Jedi recruiter after hearing rumors of a young pod racer with extraordinary abilities. (I get the sense that Qui-Gon finds the whole racing concept distasteful by one of his facial expressions).
There is no dialogue and the whole race involves only Anakin and Sebulba and clocks in at under three minutes.
Not sure if anyone will like this but I thought I would put it out there in case anyone may want to pick up the ball and run with the concept. It is my thought that since the prequels are so full of flaws it would be feasible to cut them into pieces and salvage the good parts. The missing story points would simply add to the mystery that the PT is missing. Not everything needed to be shown or explained. It was so much better when I was living during the OT era and my imagination had to fill in the blanks. George was not able to make those details more appealing than my imagination did all those years ago.
Thanks for the links, greenpenguino! I have been collecting sound fx for a while now and can always use more. I try to mix and manipulate sound and avoid the lazy cliches you can hear so readily in media today. That includes the bloody Wilhelm Scream which immediately takes me out of a scene whenever I hear it.
Incidentally, as I was working on Sebulba's voice, I mixed a cat and some sort of a howling , if I recall.
Fleabite said:
Here was my original synopsis for the edit-
This is my re-edit of the pod race sequence for what I hoped would be a larger project that laziness has prevented me from getting into at this point. My idea was for the prequels to have been made in a world where George Lucas had made all six films in order and thus Phantom Menace would have been originally released in the mid-1960s. I wanted to give it that sort of a feel by utilizing some of John Williams earlier works into the music track (which has necessitated an all new sound FX track that I have barely started. I have the music and video portions complete, however).
Great! Those sounds would definitely be useful then! It might be an Idea to add a bit of 'noise' to certain bits of dialogue, to make the sound seem not as 'clean' or 'perfect' as it is in TPM.
For instance, in close ups the sound would be clean. But in further away shots, the sound would have noise and other things.
Something to consider.
Have you thought of fading the music into each other a little more quickly? It's very distracting hearing several different pieces of music during a scene.
Also, if you are making the film seem to have been made in the 60s, have you thought of adding other sounds from things like the original star trek or something like that? This sound would be great for when the engines start working again, but that's all up to you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgz_poC0V8Y&feature=related
You can find a lot of the original 60s trek sounds here: http://www.trekcore.com/audio/
The story itself is self-contained and episodic. Qui-Gon Ginn arrives on Tatoonine alone as a Jedi recruiter after hearing rumors of a young pod racer with extraordinary abilities. (I get the sense that Qui-Gon finds the whole racing concept distasteful by one of his facial expressions).
Liking it so far...
There is no dialogue and the whole race involves only Anakin and Sebulba and clocks in at under three minutes.
Excellent, the original podrace is way too long as is.
Not sure if anyone will like this but I thought I would put it out there in case anyone may want to pick up the ball and run with the concept. It is my thought that since the prequels are so full of flaws it would be feasible to cut them into pieces and salvage the good parts. The missing story points would simply add to the mystery that the PT is missing. Not everything needed to be shown or explained. It was so much better when I was living during the OT era and my imagination had to fill in the blanks. George was not able to make those details more appealing than my imagination did all those years ago.
Sounds groovy, look forward to seeing the finished product
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hey guys,
Found this on youtube, I thought it was pretty funny, just wanted to share it you guys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ae1AiFNKFBk&feature=feedu
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Kongerne said:
hey guys,
Found this on youtube, I thought it was pretty funny, just wanted to share it you guys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ae1AiFNKFBk&feature=feedu
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You "found it", but it only has eight views...
And I actually thought it was kind of funny, but only because of the accents (which I don't believe are fake).
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Anybody thought about using John Williams score for Black Sunday for darker parts of the Prequels to give it a more 70's/OT-ish feel?
John Williams score to Return of the Jedi Remastered/Remixed:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/JOHN-WILLIAMS-Star-Wars-Episode-VI-Return-of-the-Jedi-Remastered-Edition/topic/14606/page/1/