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FVDnz said:

Actually, come to think of it, they were still in their ships, weren’t they? Maybe a backdrop of Sullust then…

The entirety of the Rebel rendezvous takes place on the Rebel Starcruiser. There’s no planet visible, and although Vader says they’re massing near Sullust, “near” in the grand scale of space can 100% mean that no planet, or even the star Sullust orbits (or maybe Sullust is the star), should appear. On the galactic scale, “near Earth” could mean somewhere beyond Pluto. The lack of any notable stars or planets in all of the exterior shots of the Fleet enhances the sense of isolation and attempted hiding from the Empire.

O00ll00O said:

Darth Sadifous said:

Honestly, my number one ask is to replace that matte painting shot when Han is departing with the strike team and talking to Lando with the falcon in the background. It is the most obvious matte shot in the entire saga in my opinion. I am still shocked Lucas didn’t tinker with it during the special edition. Especially in HD it always stands out to me like a sore thumb to me.

It’s hardly noticeable

https://imgur.com/a/AVXdzmD

I think the problem is they used a matte for the entire backdrop. They usually work a lot better when there’s other objects that help blend in to it. Like if the Falcon was a model, the rest as a matte wouldn’t be so bad. That poor ship is rough looking though.

https://youtu.be/hFadMn0EuO0?t=220

I think it’s a lot worse in motion. Also, the left side behind Lando looks so flat. And something is weird with the perspective, especially if you focus on the bottom of the frame when they start moving around near the end of the shot.

Jar Jar Bricks said:

Wouldn’t the second Death Star also have a magnetic field, then? And obviously this voice modulation effect doesn’t appear in ROTJ.

The magnetic field, IMHO, is some kind of shielding (ray shielding? no one knows.). DSII’s only shield was projected from Endor.

Oh, yeah, that’s actually really great

I think it’s a bit too prominent in the hangar shot, and makes a crowded shot just too crowded. But the shot with Ackbar and the DSII was very good. In general, the whole Rebel Fleet needs a lot of expansion anyway.

Sure, why not? Never made a single movie that would win the real award, yet undeniably a big deal in the history of filmmaking - That’s exactly what the Honorary award is for.

PsyGemini said:

left me with a barf taste in my mouth.

You may be a little more emotionally involved with this than you ought to be

Pete Byrdie said:

Gandalf the Cyan said:

Pete Byrdie said:

My understanding is that George Lucas maintains he intended for the Jabba scene to be in the movie, but they lacked the money to create the alien Jabba he wanted using stop motion or something.

It’s exceedingly likely that Jabba was originally intended to be a human; it’s been covered thoroughly here-
https://web.archive.org/web/20140928112036/http://secrethistoryofstarwars.com/jabba.html

According to Paul Hirsh (one of the editors) in his biography, Lucas came up with the alien Jabba idea in post-production, but it had to be dropped due to being impossible to achieve with contemporary special effects technology.

My phone’s protection software through a fit when I tried to follow that link. But it makes sense that Jabba was intended to be human during production. That still leaves us with two scenes that just don’t work together. Oh well! Filmmaking is not always a linear process, and in reality the details of the complications of a movie made half a century ago may remain unknowable.

I mean, I think the traditional explanation is pretty good: It was bad writing to have both scenes, but they didn’t really catch that until after filming.

It’ll be the first time a “Star Wars” film has been entirely shot in California

ifjg said:

This is still the best version of that line I’ve seen. Pretty much blends in perfectly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3yHwaqhMNM

That sounds pretty bad and is very noticeable.

I saw Dune: Part Two on Saturday, in 70mm. It was visually beautiful, sonically consuming (in a good way), and pretty great the whole time. The middle part, around when they find the atomics, felt a little off. I wish they’d included the Thufir stuff, and Count Fenring as well, but ah well, you have to trust Villeneuve to know what he’s doing.

Very excited for the eventual conclusion of this trilogy.

To deploy Chesterton’s Fence, do we have any indication of why the scene was removed so late into post-production?

Matt.F said:

we see the parked Falcon and XWing

He’d have to fix that awful matte painting though

Spuffure said:

It’s not too shabby, but the final Beatles song will always be I Me Mine. 😛

But on a side note, what’s with the metallic sound to Lennon’s voice that can be heard on almost every posthumous anthology release? Free as a Bird and Real Love have the same anomaly.

Lennon was always trying out different vocal effects because he didn’t like the sound of his own voice. Using effects on his recordings may be a way of honoring that after death.

But also, these are all vocals taken from demos done at home on cassette tapes, not in the studio with professional-grade microphones & other equipment. I suspect that’s the real reason for the tinny sound; cassette tapes aren’t great.

Channel72 said:

And I agree about Alderaan. I’ll never understand why Lucas created Naboo instead of just using Alderaan as one of the principal settings.

As much as I agree, I can’t help but feel that if he had done this, we’d be calling it the prime example of “universe shrinkage”

adywan said:

Your next look at the grading for ROTJ:R. This scene needed a little more work that the rest because , for some strange reason, the grader over-brightened the image in places to to the point where it almost bleached out parts the picture. But , again, This is just the first stage of grading. I won’t be doing the shot for shot grade to fix any problems until this first pass is completed.

https://youtu.be/C_dSlcxX944?si=81chFLwBLJ5foyJk

Love the blue-ness to the haze on Dagobah at the end there

Tack said:

All this to say I think it’s fallacious to take the blu-ray deleted scenes totally at face value, as in many cases they seem to have been taken from random post-production sources (sometimes not even for the scenes taken from out and out dailies) and cut in a way to actively discourage attempted fanedits. That does not accurately represent the scene in the scoring/preview cuts, I’m sure, but a much earlier stage in editing.

Different film, may not apply here, etc - but I do like the theory that, at least with ROTJ, the material on the Blu-rays is actually the footage that didn’t make it into any rough cut. Thus, when one of the Lost Rebels has a cut in their footage, that’s because they took out that particular line and put it into a rough cut.

I still love the YT-2000 from X-Wing: Alliance

Bobson Dugnutt said:

It might take another 20 or 30 years like SW77, but eventually we’ll know more.

Maybe. I don’t expect the level open-ness from Disney ever the way we eventually got with LFL & Rinzler.

I don’t think I have anything helpful to add, but my old thread may be of interest: https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Info-Wanted-Star-Wars-The-Temp-Track-/id/12014

Jedi122 said:

Have you ever thought of starting a Revisited Trilogy Discord server?

So that he has to deal with a rapid-paced chat instead of slower message threads? Do you want him to finish the project ever??

DZ-330 said:

Skybatman said:

wait i am confused
lucas film will make a mandalorian season 4 and also a movie and the movie will be 2h season finale of season 4 ? its that right ?

From the leaks, that is what it seems, but nothing confirmed…

Off topic, but it’s amazing that no one around here started calling leaks “lekus” at some point

Isn’t there a DCP of Back to the Future?

JadedSkywalker said:

What did give me a double take was Kirk’s father was first officer on the Kelvin? What that was in the JJverse not Prime, in canon he was supposed to be first officer under April on the first Starship Enterprise and i don’t mean the NX-01.

You have to remember, of course, that the JJVerse timeline was identical to the Prime timeline up to the point of the Romulans arriving. So in both timelines he was on the Kelvin, it’s just that in the Prime they made it back to Earth before Jim was born and George went on to serve elsewhere.

I’ll be curious to see if there’s a v2 after Andor Season 2