One thing TLJ carried over from TFA that did bother me was the fixation with Anakin’s lightsaber.
Seriously, what the hell happened to Luke’s lightsaber? It only appears in flashbacks.
It wouldn’t surprise me if he threw it over a cliff too
Hard to pirate without a source.
There is a lot of sources for Disney owned films, 4K, BD, DVD, VHS and film. If they never made any physical releases ever again, all of these sources become more attractive to collectors and their prices would rise. Lets say, 50 or 100 years from now they haven’t released anything… can you imagine how much would e.g. classic Disney cartoons cost on the secondary market? Probably hundreds if not thousands of dollars per movie, all which they would lose. Even today there have been DVDs that command hundreds of dollars on the secondary market because they have not seen a re-release since.
All true, but irrelevant to non-collectors (ie most people)
But not to Disney when they could get some of that money by relesing their properties. Also one could argue that there are others than collectors who would like to own Disney classics in the future as well, that is normal families.
I feel like the fact that they’re stopping maybe indicates you’re overestimating the size of the collector market
Hard to pirate without a source.
There is a lot of sources for Disney owned films, 4K, BD, DVD, VHS and film. If they never made any physical releases ever again, all of these sources become more attractive to collectors and their prices would rise. Lets say, 50 or 100 years from now they haven’t released anything… can you imagine how much would e.g. classic Disney cartoons cost on the secondary market? Probably hundreds if not thousands of dollars per movie, all which they would lose. Even today there have been DVDs that command hundreds of dollars on the secondary market because they have not seen a re-release since.
All true, but irrelevant to non-collectors (ie most people)
What is the status with defeating the DRM on D+ anyway? Is that pretty well sorted by now? Hard to pirate without a source.
He looks like a pale Rebels’ Thrawn
We don’t need another of those connections that offer nothing except shrinking the Star Wars universe even more.
Let people just be random people. Like it was originally in 1977. Luke being a nobody from nowhere is far more powerful than him being the lost son of space Goebbels.
She’s not even a nobody! She’s Mon Mothma’s cousin!
One vlogger I follow has a theory that Kleya is a former handmaiden of Padme’s.
And they revisited for filming season 2 a location that was part of Naboo in the PT.
It would be pretty weird for the queen of Naboo to have a Chanrillian handmaid, not to mention a strange and unnecessary connection to a dead character who has little to do with this storyline (yes, I know, Padme’s a part of the initial meetings that lead to the secret pact to combat the Emperor, but she then dies shortly thereafter)
The one OT movie in which Artoo never goes inside the Falcon, and Threepio only does so off-screen
I’ve still never seen Temple of Doom. Maybe someday.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YUzQa_1RCE
I’m sorry, but I just can’t get behind an elderly Christopher Walken as the Emperor.
Why not?
Less than 1gb??? I may need to download this just to see how bad the picture quality looks
I don’t see how mkv vs mp4 would make a difference. MKVs are just containers for other formats, which could be using the same (or probably better) compression algorithm as an mp4
I’m oke with the new HDR grades. They look fine to me, but I prefer the original look for all three films.
Ok but what about the sudden swap from Day to Night?
We see the big tree roots at the base “Daytime” when pan up the bigature model of the winding stairs around the trunk it’s night.
How about grading the first shot as night for continuity?
This feels a quite choppy otherwise…
Isn’t this just because they’ve been walking all day through the woods before reaching Caras Galadhon?
This is all probably because the version of the script from mid-March 1982, before the final round of rewrites on the Endor sequence, reads a bit different here.
Note that, in addition to the Imperial facility being much bigger and more active than it ends up in the final film, there’s no description of Vader exiting his shuttle. Instead, the viewer is supposed to discern that Vader obediently arrived on the moon immediately after his conversation with the Emperor earlier, and has been waiting around for Luke to turn himself in.
Frankly, I think it makes more sense that way, and avoids the same “We must always see Vader travel between locations” thinking that lead to the addition of some things to the end of ESB in the SE. And the musical cue could work with just a better establishing shot of the Imperial facility.
Here is the podrace in full. I replaced the music and sound effects at the beginning so I could remove some of the racer introductions and Jar Jar shenanigans, removed the whole flag parade part, removed Quadineros’ pod not starting, added some deleted scene stuff, removed the sequence where Anakin’s engine becomes detached, cut some reactions/dialogue, etc. A ton of work went into this, and hopefully you won’t actually notice any of it.
This has always been one of my favorite sequences in all of Star Wars, so it was really fun playing with it.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/11bIVCqc3NkYLT-_toejDHALcXjPcnj-o/view?usp=drive_link
Have you ever noticed that the part Sebulba breaks/bends-down is prominently visible, intact and in its original position, in all the subsequence shots during his convo w/ Ani?
thanks guys lets expect that ashoka is good too
Difficult to say. Totally different showrunner, etc.
Does it get into the different rewrite/revision dates of various scenes/portions of the script?
Oh, it’s a 4k83, but a previous version as I haven’t gotten around to downloading the newer version.
Once I’m done going through it (for my storyboards) project, I’ll have to post my thoughts on the earlier versions of scenes that later got rewritten. Stuff like Jabba kissing Leia.
I’ve been watching the first act a bit lately, and I gotta say, I’m really struck by the lighting & colors in Jabba’s Palace. What a great set & atmosphere.
Even though ROTJ is my least favorite of the OT‡, the music at the end of the Jabba’s Barge sequence, as they’re flying away into space, is some of the most memorable in the whole of Star Wars.
I feel like I’ve said this before.
‡ Least favorite to watch, that is. It’s my favorite to spend way too much time thinking about the production thereof, as my storyboards project reveals, that’s because its production is so interesting because it’s flawed, which yielded an inferior film
If I ever finish my project it would probably be what you are looking for.
Did you ever finish?
Just want to point out that he has since been banned (note that his avatar is marked with a 🚫)
It’s definitely true that TLC is the weakest of the three, and the clone stuff just isn’t as good as it isn’t to be.
Finally got around to watching the 4K release of The Undiscovered Country (Extended Cut) last night. The picture quality was, to my eye at least, beautiful. Only a few of the space shots looked model-y, and that’s because they are (and it wasn’t that bad), and I was struck by how some of them, especially towards the end of the movie, felt very TOS in their composition (in contrast with the more dynamic, fancy cinematic shots), but not in a bad way. The acting is, of course, great, though some of the dialogue is ridiculous (“If my surmise is correct those boots will cling to the killers’ necks like a pair of Tiberian bats”).
The movie was really interesting and strange, however, given it’s place in history and current events. It never tries to hide the fact that it’s about the end of the Cold War, but I was a very little kid when the movie debuted and have little sense, myself, of how strange detante with the Soviets must have felt. And yet, given recent events in Ukraine, I felt more understanding of Kirk & McCoy’s attitude towards the Klingons than ever before. Glasnost & Perestroika were wonderful ideas, but it’s so, so hard to not be cynical about where it’s all lead. But I can’t deny that Spock & Gorkon are right, it’s just so difficult.
Oh also the storyline on the Enterprise, with Detective Spock-lock (Sher-spock?), is the better part of the middle act. Rura Penthe sounds cool, but honestly it wasn’t that great.
I’m really interested to see your takes on these films as I really enjoyed your work on Kenobi. I’ve found the prequels the hardest to find edits of that I’d be happy to put into into my definitive collection, but your AotC sounds like it could be just what I’m looking for.
Out of interest, what’s your stance on multimedia, or inserting Clone Wars/Tales of the Jedi scenes? I know many find it jarring, but I feel some of Dooku’s scenes from TotJ could really add to the tone of TPM.
I’m a big fan of the animated series. But I don’t intend to integrate them into the movies. They’re always separate things to me.
That’s fair enough. I’ve seen a few edits that integrate, and a few that don’t, and to be honest, both can work really well. I’m undecided as to how I’d like my definitive collection to look, particularly surrounding Dooku’s TotJ arc as it works well stand alone or integrated. I look forward to viewing your edits; it might give me some much needed clarity on this topic.
It’s tempting to use some Dooku footage from Totj in conjunction with that deleted scene from AOTC, but I think the merging of the two mediums will just feel too fanedit-y.
Correct.
It’s got to be the “Small Details” thread; this ought to be merged there if that’s possible.