This is the best the scene can be for now, as there is missing footage from the start of the scene that makes continuity tricky, as well as the unfinished VFX towards the end
Wow, that is really impressive work that definitely needs to appear in a TLJ edit.
Here’s the Kylo Deleted Scene integrated into my edit in what I’m hoping is a final form:
Password: fanedit
If this is acceptable there’s just those couple of shots near the end of the film to complete!
Holy shit, that is beautiful.
As much as I appreciate the idea, it just looks very obviously like a video game to me unfortunately.
I literally cannot tell the difference.
Note, I’m also someone who thought Tarkin in Rogue One looked amazing.
https://youtu.be/b1Xf24aX-kk
So apparently that animation is already finished, too. By Petrovelly (says so in description). But only viewable on their SubscribeStar. Doubt they are willing to share it, either.
IMO just kinda sucks that this fan editing community’s manpower is being divided because the Fixing Disney Star Wars team is using financial contributions.
EDIT: I realize they likely wouldn’t be able to create that Mustafar shot without that money, but it still seems kinda scummy imo.
I signed up just to see that clip. I applaud them for the effort, but rest assured that what we have looks better.
If you want to see it, PM me.
Honestly, neither version of the lines changes their underlying inanity. shrug
Ehhh, maybe. Though this change does make it so it’s not just, “Nuh uhh, I am better than you!”
What could maybe be a better variation would be if Palpatine’s line was the one to be tweaked.
Instead, have him say:
Palpatine: “I am the Sith.”
Rey: “I am all of the Jedi.”
Just thinking out loud, but either way, I do feel like the exchange is significantly less corny with the edit.
Playing with some random Saber settings. Ignore the tracking and speed, It’s 3am!
Noise max gets my vote.
Frankly, I think the saber needs to have nearly as much crackle as Kylo’s. Go big or go home.
Hey Hal, not sure if you saw JakeRyan’s trimming of the “All Sith/The Jedi” line, but any thoughts on using that idea? The line is still godawful, but somehow cutting out that one word makes it a lot less cringey (to me, at least).
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xQZgJAc1umsYUKpgjEEc8DcrBCXnZsrg/view?usp=sharing>
OMG this is my first time seeing that change and it is SO much better than the original line. It also echo’s Luke’s line to Palpatine in ROTJ: “I am a Jedi, like my father before me.”
Amazing how much more effective that scene is with that little change. I got chills.
Sounds like Hal doesn’t like it though. However, I would absolutely be willing to release my own fanedit—built upon Hal’s final release—entirely for that change alone.
I think a new shot needs to be made for the castle approach.
You volunteering? 😄
What other shot of the castle do you suggest we use?
This is my latest update to those shots for anyone interested.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ljyIlZ1PLpPmhSpuPNktDqtBWP2vZ_8O/view?usp=sharing
This looks really, really good.
I love that new shot of the TIEs over the trees with the castle in the background.
The TIEs themselves flying at the camera aren’t exactly perfect, but I can look past it. I’m really pleased with how much this addition fleshes out that whole sequence.
I think that hiding the lava is probably doable, either via some color correction or replacement.
The trees would be harder, as they would need to be tracked to match the speed and pan of the camera.
You could flip it around a bit. Zoom in and crop it, reverse the direction. Plus, the addition of those TIEs also differentiates it from Rogue One. Put an overlay of a forest around it.
I don’t think any one would think, “I’ve seen this before.”
I’m going to disagree. I think having a large building in the background of a forest—without any context as to why it is there—will seem out of place and more of a continuity error.
I would suggest not including it at all if an establishing shot isn’t present.
But it’s not my fanedit.
So I know I just shared that video of the establishing shot of Vader’s castle, which I think compliments having the shot of Kylo Ren with the castle in the distance.
With that said, I honestly believe you need the establishing shot in order to use the shot of the castle in the distance.
Without the establishing shot, there’s no evidence of any structures anywhere in this massive forest.
Instead, by itself, it almost feels like an error. Like, “Oh, the film crew accidentally got a building in the background.”
Whether using the one I suggested, or if someone else wants to put one together, I feel like you need an establishing shot of Vader’s castle.
I really don’t feel like the ruins piece is necessary. It would look cool, but not required.
It’s far enough away that you can’t tell.
Hey there poppasketti,
Just wondering. Is there anything else you are wanting to do with this fanedit?
Maybe not today or anytime soon, but I’ve been in a creative Star Wars mood and I’m just wondering if you have any other ideas that you want to implement someday?
Just as a discussion? 😃
The last idea I had was one I mentioned awhile back: changing Snoke’s eyes to yellow when Palpatine’s music plays when Rey is being held in the air.
Just wondering if you had any others on your “someday” list?
I think that looks great.
Oh man I don’t remember seeing that shot of the ties in front of Vader’s castle that looks wonderful.
Yeah, it’s a really good establishing shot, especially since we otherwise don’t realize this is taking place on Mustafar.
We probably didn’t go with it because we didn’t want to reuse footage from another movie. I could look past that though.
Since it’s not from a film in the Skywalker Saga, I’d be open to it since we don’t see Vader’s castle in any other movie.
Although, I’m still of the opinion that the Battlefront footage doesn’t work unfortunately.
Which part of that is Battlefront footage?
Hi again, Nev.
As it turns out, having watched The Mandalorian has put me back into a Star Wars mood.
Is there anything we could do to help you continue work on The Starlight Project?
Or, would you be open to releasing a full-quality “lite” version that includes the most important changes?
And then we could work toward a more feature-complete version for a later date?
I would love to do a re-watch of The Force Awakens with your changes—notably the Hosnian Prime destruction sequence—as it’s the best of the TFA fanedits I’ve seen. But the current workprint is just too poor an encode and resolution.
All your other ideas for this project are great and I’d like to see them come to fruition, but I’m willing to put them on pause if a higher quality version of the film with your Hosnian Prime sequence is made available.
What do you think? Anything I could do to try and convince you?
Hope you are well these days.
On the topic of Vader’s castle, I recall seeing another thread where someone rotoscoped video using shots of the castle from Rogue One.
Here is the link to view it:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rlq4IBxaaX6cWvdPlPQttfvaKCIdYtwS/view?usp=sharing
I do think those establishing shots greatly improve the sequence—particularly the TIEs flying around the castle. The troopers running out may not be necessary, though I do like extending the sequence as the whole film moves too fast.
Where did we ever land on getting a shot of the castle? Or did we pass on it?
I got to admit that the pacing in the beginning of the film never worked for me. It starts off with Vader arriving in the DSII, then it cuts to Tatooine at Jabba’s palace rescuing Han where they get captured and fight at the Sarlaac pit for about 30 minutes, then the core of the story gets back on track on Dagobah with the Yoda and Obi-Wan scenes.
So, not to promote my fanedit, but in my ROTJ version, the order goes like this:
I suppose it may be possible to break up the Tatooine sequence a little more so it’s not as drawn out as it is.
Beautiful!
Yeah, optical flow is pretty cool, it fills in the gaps between frames so slow mo looks far more seamless.
That whole sequence is looking awesome. The only thing I might suggest changing is that I don’t like breaking up the clip of the ties flying above the forest.
I’d have the full shot of the ties above the forest, then the pilot, then cut to the troop carriers landing.
What would really be good is another shot of the ties, like coming at the camera, that appears after the pilot. But I’d have to find one and some how animate them into frame, and I’m not great at that.
Here’s a rough version of the new sequence I’m considering for the Hosnian Destruction. It’s closer to Restructured, but unlike that scene there’s actually too many shots to fit into the music duration.
Hey, I know it’s been awhile Nev, but I checked in just to see how the project has been coming along.
The clip you shared above back several weeks ago is really well done. I think that flows very nicely and is probably the best take so far at the Hosnian destruction.
For the pilot reactions, you might be able to use a shot of Poe from either TLJ or TROS. I know there’s a couple shots of him in TROS final battle that might match the emotional weight of the scene.
For now, this is my final sequence.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Bqs5HPeYiG4iLGFXp0M0jGHyDevnHgR2/view?usp=sharing
That is really, really good.
For the shot of the pilot, I can tell that it’s been slowed down. If you’re editing in FCPX, can you render the clip using optical flow? It might make it not look quite so jumpy.
Great work on this, Hal.
Watched workprint 6.1. It looks really good, and my feedback is minimal.
For the edit in the desert scene, the cut at 23:40 is pretty obvious. I suggest using the clip at 24:02 and placing it at 23:40 as a break, THEN cut to them running.
Would you consider putting in a couple establishing shots of Ahch-To at 1:26:28? It’s such a hard cut here and it’s our first time seeing the island in this movie, and doesn’t give much context. Is there a shot or two from TFA or TLJ that could flesh out this sequence a little more? In my dreams, I’d love to see a wipe to seeing Ren’s TIE fighter fly toward the planet, and THEN establishing shot of the island, and THEN Rey burning the TIE.
In Kylo Ren’s mask montage, Rey says, “You’re a creature in a mask” at 18:08. But it’s hard to hear over the music. It’s an important line. Could it be moved just a second or two later so it is more audible?
I’m a big fan of the Knights of Ren dialogue. I do think you should consider adding one of the lines in the helmet rebuilding scene, but that’s just my opinion.
Anyone know this?
In FCP7, if you use the blade to cut a clip, there will appear two red arrows to let you know that the clips are aligned despite the cut.
Does anything correspond to this in FCPX? When I make a cut, there doesn’t seem to be any visual distinction between any two clips I could just smash together.
I know I’m late to the party.
FCPX has a “position” tool (which replicates FCP7 functionality) and the standard “select” tool.
By default, the select tool moves clips around with a “snap” behavior to ensure there aren’t any gaps in content. A yellow bar appears when bringing two clips together.
The position tool, on the other hand, allows you to throw clips around without having other parts of your project move around. When you use the blade to slice a clip, two clips, a dotted line appears indicating a place for you to drop something in.