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#1147121
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Puggo GRANDE - 16mm restoration
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I found this bit about early changes on this Wookieepedia page.

The earliest edits to the original film occurred between the initial release in May and the wider release later in 1977. The edits are minor, but noticeable. They consist of four changes. All of these changes were made before the foreign language prints were made later in 1977 and well before the last good interpositive was struck in 1985. These four shots run exactly the same length. All of them exist in the earliest bootleg video tapes and in the English 16 mm print. The original three effects shots exist in many home video English language versions released during the 80’s. None of these shots are found in the Definitive Edition, Faces Edition, or 2006 bonus discs, nor are they in any of the known extant 35 mm prints, or Technicolor prints.

  • When the Millennium Falcon is being chased after taking off from Mos Eisley, the effects shot where the Star Destroyer is shooting at the Falcon was changed. The early version has different explosions and different flashes and looks less finished.
  • When the heroes arrive on Yavin 4, the outdoor composited shot with the matte painting of the temple is recomposited and is not synced the same. It also has an artifact in the image.
  • When the fighters take off from Yavin 4, there is an extra cloud and the shot is not synced the same. It also has an artifact in the image.
  • The scrolling end credits are completely redone with the spacing, both vertical and horizontal, altered and a glitch in composition at the beginning has been removed.

This is the first I’m hearing of this. The article mentions that these only exist in the earliest bootleg tapes and the English 16mm print. Does Puggo Grande contain the early version shots? If not, where can I obtain this version of the film?

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#1145856
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The Force Awakens/Rogue One Changes from Theatrical to Home Video Versions?
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I’m looking for a list of differences, audio and visual, between the theatrical version of The Force Awakens and the Blu-Ray/DVD version as well as a similar list of differences between Rogue One’s theatrical and Blu-Ray/DVD versions. Could anyone give me or point me to such a list? I’ve sifted through a few pages of old threads here on this forum, but I haven’t encountered anything definitive other than a few unsubstantiated claims about The Force Awakens. Among the purported differences I’ve seen are

  • BB-8 making a bleep-bloop sound in his closeup shot during Rey and Finn’s escape from Jakku
  • a difference in the flags in the establishing shot of Maz Kanata’s bar on Takodana
  • the female alien spy in the bar whispering audibly instead of silently
  • a different credits sequence wherein the music is different (I’ve heard something about the Oscar consideration soundtrack) and the credits sequence is extended by three minutes

I haven’t read about any such differences for Rogue One.

Can anyone confirm or deny that such changes exist, along with any others I may not have heard about? Can anyone tell me where to obtain a copy of the theatrical versions of both films? Any help is appreciated. Thanks!

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#1027936
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Harmy's THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Despecialized Edition HD !!!MKV and AVCHD v2.0 NOW AVAILABLE!!!
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CatBus said:

yaboykevin01 said:

What is the difference between the 5.1 1980 mix and the 2.0 1980 mix? Are there any content differences, or are they just mixed through more channels?

Also, does the 16mm mono track differ from those two in any way?

And unlike Jedi, we know that there are content differences from the six-channel mix, but the six-channel mix didn’t apply to this cut of the film.

Which cut of the film does the six-channel mix apply to? And where can I find a list of differences between the original stereo and the six-channel mix?

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#1027291
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Harmy's THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Despecialized Edition HD !!!MKV and AVCHD v2.0 NOW AVAILABLE!!!
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CatBus said:

yaboykevin01 said:

CatBus said:

No video preservation that I know of has the full 70mm audio, since no preservation has the 70mm video. Even then, we’d be talking mono tracks from in-theatre recordings or reconstructed from the 8mm digest. It’d be pretty ugly, although maybe possible if you wanted mismatched audio badly enough.

Didn’t morgands1 preserve a tape recording of The Empire Strikes Back from a 70mm showing in 1980?

EDIT: A recording of the audio, not the video.

That’s what I meant by a mono in-theatre recording. Yes, it’s technically possible, but it’s a pretty odd request. The 35mm video was never shown with 70mm audio, so it wouldn’t be so much a preservation as a fan-edit. And the result wouldn’t sound very good either, so I suppose that’s why nobody’s jumped on it: i.e. it’s a custom version of Empire that’s not the least bit authentic and also sounds bad.

It sure would be great to find a 70mm print of Empire.

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#1027132
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Harmy's THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Despecialized Edition HD !!!MKV and AVCHD v2.0 NOW AVAILABLE!!!
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CatBus said:

No video preservation that I know of has the full 70mm audio, since no preservation has the 70mm video. Even then, we’d be talking mono tracks from in-theatre recordings or reconstructed from the 8mm digest. It’d be pretty ugly, although maybe possible if you wanted mismatched audio badly enough.

Didn’t morgands1 preserve a tape recording of The Empire Strikes Back from a 70mm showing in 1980?

EDIT: A recording of the audio, not the video.

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#1026743
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Harmy's THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Despecialized Edition HD !!!MKV and AVCHD v2.0 NOW AVAILABLE!!!
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Harmy said:

TRACK  1) 5.1   DTS-HD-MA   [English]        (1980 mix)

TRACK  2) 2.0   DTS-HD-MA   [English]        (1980 mix)

TRACK  3) 1.0   DTS-HD-MA   [English]        (1980 16mm mono mix)

I know there were three different 1980 mixes (the 35mm, the 70mm, and the 16mm), but I’m unclear here. Does this release include both the 35mm and the 70mm audio tracks?

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#1025226
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What SE changes (if any) did people like?
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I like the idea of the Jabba scene in A New Hope. I don’t think it detracts too much from the rest of the film, and it adds a little backstory to Han and Chewie. However, I’m glad it wasn’t included in the 1977 release. With the limited technology of the time, Jabba could have turned out looking a whole lot worse than what we saw in 1997 (shudder), and a silly-looking Jabba could have made the movie look like a stupid, low-budget, science fiction exploitation movie.

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#1024776
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Using SSE .iso Files
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I torrented Team Negative1’s Silver Screen Edition of Star Wars, but I accidentally got the .iso torrent, not the .mkv torrent. I don’t want to download the whole .mkv version as well, but I also don’t want to burn it onto a disc either, so can someone please help me figure out how to use the .iso files without burning them to a disc?

EDIT: Problem solved by PM with another user.

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#1024082
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College Football
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Welcome to the originaltrilogy.com College Football Discussion Thread!
I know I can’t be the only one here who follows college football.
Here’s your place to talk about all of it. Your team, how they did this year, meet other fans, talk about the playoffs, who’s going to win (Alabama), discuss which is the best conference (SEC), vent about poor performances from your team, etc. Just don’t let banter between rival fans escalate too much. It’s happened to me before (looking at you, Florida fans LOL) so don’t be too disrespectful. But feel free to rip on their team all you want.