WookieeWarrior77

Perfectly fine that Stardust cited a CW episode, but that kind of just points out what a problem this was. The movies shouldn’t need a cartoon network show to show what was expected in the backstory of Star Wars. Everyone who’s been in comment sections have insisted Anakin is a more likable character in that series too, but I think he should have been likable in the movies… oh well, I digress. But my point was that the Clone War itself should have happened in the actual movies.

CarboniteSolo said:

I think there should have been more than 3 movies, the phantom menace should have been it’s own story with no Episode number. Something like “In the beginning…”

Episode II now the new Episode I
Episode III now being the Episode II

At the end of the new Episode II, the duel happens,

I love love love this concept! Much more aligned with what I was thinking. Your summary of Episode III sounds like a much more interesting movie!

Darth Caliban said:

Think that would have been better! And instead of the clones fighting for the republic, they should have been the enemy imho. Like it was hinted at in the early EU (especially in the Thrawn trilogy).

Yes! Just one example of the great universe-building in those books. I really like what Mr. Plinkett says in the Clones video about them being cloned monsters that threaten the galaxy. Also, while we’re on the subject I think the Clone wars should have been going on before or at least begin at the start of Episode I. There’s a war going on at the start of SW (which I know that was the point), but it would be a more interesting way to start your space adventure series.

LexX said:

I think the comparison isn’t completely fair between the films. In SW Tarkin and Vader seem to be friends who respect each other but Tarkin is the military boss who is in charge of the station. Also Vader doesn’t have much to do really on his own.

Yeah, you’re right, they are on equal ground, pretty much. I guess what I meant was like Tarkin is in charge of the Death Star project, so that’s his turf, and then in TESB
we’re on Vader’s ship, as you said.

In TESB we see Vader only in his own SSD that is in charge of the relatively small fleet. Even then, the admiral of the fleet is in charge of the fleet, but sure, they act on Vader’s orders which is to find Luke and the rebels. So he had is own quest to complete by any means necessary. I think after the small group of rebels destroyed the Death Star, the Emperor realized the danger and Vader got a bit of a promotion. Before that Vader had served his duty by killing the Jedi already.

Then the Emperor is in charge of Death Star II when he arrives.

Kind of related, I also had thought it was cool that the lightning was the Emperor’s own personal force power he had mastered himself…until Count Dooku did it that is.

I’ve felt (like many others) that the ending of Revenge of the Sith feels really rushed, and that Anakin should have gotten into the Darth Vader suit before the very ending of the last movie. (Also Padmé shouldn’t have died onscreen, but that’s probably a topic for a whole 'nother thread) I had though we were gonna see him “hunting down and destroying the Jedi Knights” instead of the Clones. I wonder if it would have been much better had he gotten his Darth suit more towards the beginning, or at least the halfway point of ROTS.

Mocata said:

Not from the era without thinking longer about it.

From the 90s though the things that I recall immediately recall are the X-Files episode Small Potatoes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqNC2K4YbK0

And the ending of this Spaced episode https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XMkW1btoEM

Oh this too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZnsOZsA7_4

Thanks! Yeah, I should have mentioned it in my original post, 90s is good too. I just didn’t want really modern shows.

Leia:

“Darth Vader, only you could be so bold…”

“He’s my brother”

Yeah it would have to be during Empire’s production, as it’s made pretty clear in that movie in his scene that he’s into the Force("there is a great disturbance…), and that’s only taking the original version into account(no dumb Anakin lines).

I do think it’s cool how in Jedi we get to see Darth Vader kneeling before someone. And only recently I’ve thought that in SW, Vader answers to Tarkin, In ESB, EVERYONE answers to Vader, and in Jedi, Vader answers to the Emperor. Just something that crossed my mind.

I really like how the Emperor is presented in Jedi, but the prequels turned him into like the devil, which I don’t believe was ever the intention.

Well, 25 years ago today the special edition of Star Wars was released in theaters. The special editions have now been around for a quarter century. Did you go to the theater? (I was not yet born) (That’s probably been discussed before I’m sure, but this thread is specifically about the 25 years thing)

Also of note, in this NY Times article from 25 years ago today, it reads,
“But the temptation will be to use effects because they can be used, to revel in technique rather than story. Mr. Lucas’s films have mostly avoided that temptation, but is it possible that with the tinkering in this ‘‘Special Edition,’’ he may have been slightly lured by the dark side of the Force (and its marketing potential)?”

Hmmm…

gary1 said:

This might help as a start…
https://starwarsfans.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_references_to_Star_Wars_in_television

I did look at this page, and there’s not a whole lot in the realm I was looking for. I also wondered if there were specific things that stood out to forum members. And I know things are missing, like I didn’t see reference to that Facts of Life episode I mention in my OP. I also know of a mention of Luke Skywalker in a Silver Spoons episode, which wasn’t on the list either.

That guy with no name said:

This cinema actually does 35mm screenings, hopefully, this will be the case for ESB.
I’ll update you when I watch it.

So, how was it?

Ridiculous, this thread is.

Like it, I do.

gary1 said:

This might help as a start…
https://starwarsfans.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_references_to_Star_Wars_in_television

Thanks for that link! I’ll definitely look into that page.

The Star Wars Purist said:

Yeah, but it has Luke doing the ROTJ Emperor scream while falling down the air shaft.

Yikes. I forgot about that. Been a while since I’ve watched that. To hear it in a surround sound theatre…

In Empire, there’s a moment that I’ve always loved, and it always made me very emotional, and upon a recent TV airing(I didn’t watch the whole movie, just caught the end) on TNT I noticed a change from what I was used to. (I mainly watch the original versions) When Leia and the gang finally blast their way to the hangar bay, they get there just in time to watch Slave I soar away. The camera cuts to Leia’s face, and Carrie Fisher just has the best look of utter despair and heartbreak on her face as all that is heard is Slave I’s rockets flying away. She may have lost her beloved Han forever… Then you hear Threepio yell as he cuts into her moment, "Chewie, they’re behind you!"and more blasterfire- you know the rest.

Well anyway that was a perfect scene,and part of what makes it so perfect is the lack of music. well now, in the new version there’s music. Why was this changed? It had to be just to urk people who enjoy well made scenes, because as great as the music of JW is, this scene was better without it.

I never see this change talked about, so I wanted to devote a thread to it and see if there’s others who hate this as much as I do.

Clicked on the link and they did clarify “1997 Special Edition version”. Interesting they specifically say 1997. Wonder if this means they’re showing a 97 print? Most likely not. They’ll probably just pop the 4k blu-ray in a dvd player, but it would be cool if they showed 97. I still prefer the original version of the movie, but the 97SE at least still has Jason Wingreen’s voice and the original Emperor.

I’m trying to figure out all the TV episodes from the golden age (so the time the movies were out and popular, meaning 70s and 80s; this isn’t the thread for bringing up Family Guy) that reference Star Wars in any way. Like for example, Michael mentions Darth Vader in a Knight Rider episode. And the girls say they went to the Empire Strikes Back in a Facts of Life episode. That kind of thing. There’s more I’ve got, but I’ll leave some for the discussion.

Uncle Owen’s “that’s what I’m afraid of” gives me chills, knowing about the reveal in the next movie; as well as Ben’s explanation of how Luke’s father died. Another chill inducing line is, “You must do what you feel is right of course.”

A line I’ve always loved in Empire I don’t hear people ever mention is after Han hits Lando in the prison cell and he (Lando) says, “I’ve done all I can! I’m sorry I can’t do more but I’ve got my own problems!” To which Han replies as he lies on the ground, struggling to get up, “Yeah, you’re a real hero…”

Bob Saget, at just 65, shockingly.

The original 1979 Muppet movie would be my favorite, but I’m curious what the most popular answer is.

Usually November 17, but I went with the second option this past year as I didn’t have a chance to watch it until the Saturday before Thanksgiving actually. I’ve always felt it had more of a Thanksgiving feel to it than Christmas anyway.

Original unaltered trilogy
Thrawn trilogy of books
Holiday special

I really don’t get too caught up on what’s canon, and what’s not. And even if I don’t consider something in my personal canon does not mean I refuse to watch it. There are things about the other movies I really like (specifically TFA, which I would include if it didn’t contradict Heir to the Empire). This is just the stuff I consider to be the main story(and the best content) in my head. I’m yet to delve into more of the EU, but from what I’ve read, I anticipate liking it.

Ooh, maybe the Muppet show episode too

The Empire Strikes Back is the coolest sounding title I think. But I definitely agree about it being neat that Return of the Jedi has a double meaning in its title.

Bobafettdied said:

I always get a little frog in my throat when the strings swell up and turn Yub Nub into an incredibly emotional moment as luke sees his father join obi wan and yoda.

I love it. I hate the change.

Agreed 100%! For everyone who says the new music is more emotional and yub nub is just silly I try and explain this, but if you don’t get it, you just don’t get it.

I actually really like the colors on the GOUT, and while the quality may not be the greatest, I still love those DVDs, and don’t find the quality to be as bad as most say (although still unexcusable as the best official release of such classic movies). Even though I know the op said official releases, I’d say 4k77 has the most eye pleasing color palette to me.