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#1462148
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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 - MKV (Released)
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I enjoy Harmy’s videos, showing work on lots of details oft missed while watching the completed Star Wars. Though, referring to this clip as “finished” is premature. Everything is up for change up until it’s version is released.

The multi-compare video (posted above) presently shows v3.0’s color moving in a wrong direction – away from v2.5’s near-cyan detention center and towards 4K77’s more obvious cyan. To be fair, all the displayed shots share a common problem, which is ever-more loss of lush and distinct color. This loss appears to the eye as a “veneer” that flattens the “depth” of it’s reality.

For this demonstration, I used v2.5 as a base for the quick “corrected” shot, aimed at restoring the missing “depth” … with truly black uniforms, full-bodied flesh-toned faces, a neutral-dark detention center, light-panel buttons that actually glow, and just look at that floor – the eye eats up that depth!

  • Caveat for the corrected shot: I curve-lightened my correction to more closely match the surrounding shots’ brightness (for an apple-to-apples comparison). Such lightening somewhat reduces color strength.
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#1460898
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Project <strong>4K80</strong> (a WIP)
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[moved from 4K77 to correct topic 4K80]

benduwan said:

will there be release of the SPFX: making of the empire strikes back too?

Williarob said:

… I’m working on that right now actually. It will be a bonus feature with 4K80.

… That’s after some color correction - it is faded to pink:

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… I used a single grade for the whole print. Here’s how that shot looks currently:

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Couldn’t find anything more on this after a few of it’s January posts. From back then, it looks like a fair restoration, but it needs to go much further to be a decent one. Anyone have updates on this? or their own better correction suggestions or demos? I gave that faded frame a fairly quick restore to demonstrate what it still needs:

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I’m sure he’d appreciate any suggestions.

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#1460711
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George Lucas: Star Wars Creator, Unreliable Narrator &amp; Time Travelling Revisionist...
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SparkySywer said:

|| wocke said:
|| He further opined that he felt Star Wars “wasn’t his film” because of all the others’ ideas and skills and talent that went into the movie it was becoming.

Also, I’d really like to see this quote if you know where it came from.

It’s still buried but I’m digging through my stuff (allot and slow going). However I did find another interview where GL admits to the same misgivings, with a painful chuckle. Thankfully, someone posted it on YouTube for easy access:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FRZtFPDxi4

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#1460112
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<strong>4K77</strong> - Released
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Williarob said:

Yes, …

Your’s is an old post (Jan.) but I hope you still check back. Wanted to say nice project by you, and your crew. I must take a look at it (the stills are good).

Have you checked your project page lately? There’s lot’s of bad links. Hopefully you can have them easily fixed. This snapshot showes 3 video errors/denials (with another 3 further down):

Also liked the “picture slider”. I’ve seen it on other sites but I can’t save the page and still have it work. Apparently it because it’s posters are keeping some code “proprietary” (must be accessed live). The thing is, they probably got it & modified it from the W3Schools website, for free:
https://www.w3schools.com/howto/howto_js_image_comparison.asp
Hope you can switch to this free one that can be saved with the page.

But as for the slider function, I also noticed your demonstration pictures are poor compares – wrong sized, wrong aligns, and even wrong frames:

TOP: ORIGINAL COMPARE

BOTTOM: RESIZED-ALIGNED COMPARE

As you see, it’s easy enough to fix with the present shots, except the wrong frames (which you could fix in a moment) and frame-trimming (so the edge difference won’t distract).

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#1443001
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George Lucas: Star Wars Creator, Unreliable Narrator &amp; Time Travelling Revisionist...
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G&G-Fan said:

… I think that is the worst anti-Lucas post I’ve ever seem in my life. You clearly know jack and shit about the man and just eat up all of the Lucas hater shit you see.

Actually, I thought it was a pretty good pro-Lucas post. Sorry you missed that part of it.

Especially the whole “rough cut of the film was garbage and the editors having to fix it” …

Didn’t you know the Lucas’s were a team working on Star Wars? Real documented fact.

… despite that being so much of a lie a guy made a 2 hour video debunking it. …

Interesting. Please post the link here. It’s the perfect topic to have such documentation for examination.

But go ahead and whine because Lucas made a few creative changes you didn’t like to a franchise HE created.

Oh, and I never said I didn’t like the released film. tips-wine-glass

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#1442454
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George Lucas: Star Wars Creator, Unreliable Narrator &amp; Time Travelling Revisionist...
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There should be a giant caveat to this topic … that being … a certain point of view. Dutifully set up and reflected on by the OP, it suggests that George Lucas has a certain point of view, but not a legitimate one.

Is George Lucas in a stage of dementia? Is he a cynical liar? Or are we missing something? Most of us (including me) saw this topic and stopped here to have our prejudices reinforced by a title that said it all: George Lucas: Unreliable Narrator & Time Traveling Revisionist. That’s what I thought … until I thought of something I hadn’t before … a certain point of view.

That certain point of view is the George Lucas point of view, which isn’t mentioned in that treatise. Sure, he’s quoted, but not his point of view. It’s like OriginalTrilogy proudly bannering their 54,800+ members with 22,100+ topics, but not mentioning the 7,200+ bans, a telling statistic of … a certain point of view.

If you were to read the Lucas quotes in the context of the time made, you would realize the certain point of view of George Lucas has been consistent throughout his career. He was writing Star Wars before filming, and was writing Star Wars during filming, and was writing Star Wars after filming, and was writing Star Wars during the successive movies, and was writing Star Wars for the re-releases. They were all drafts in his certain point of view. Each idea, each draft, each rewrite he makes is his same point of view in action. The fact is, he has never “finished” writing Star Wars.

How can this be? George Lucas is not “a writer”, he has no sense of writing. He once admitted in a filmed interview, on the old Star Wars website of decades ago, “I bleed all over the page” when writing the script. He further opined that he felt Star Wars “wasn’t his film” because of all the others’ ideas and skills and talent that went into the movie it was becoming.

Likewise, George Lucas is not “a filmmaker”, he has no sense of film. His editing of Star Wars was so bad, it nearly sunk the film in production. He had to hand it over to his then-wife Marcia (a professional film editor) to re-cut the film into the blockbuster we saw in the theaters. That is why he is always wanting to take a back-seat on the “big films” and is always opining to “go back” to his “small films”. (His small films were the very, very short “tone poems” he made in his “University Of Southern California” film-school days.) His behavior even puzzled legendary producer/director Stanley Kubrick, who once wondered aloud why the director of American Graffiti would want to “run a business” instead of make films. A very telling observation, that.

It seems George Lucas is mostly good at surrounding himself with others who can re-mold his fuzzy-inspirations and transform his inept-everything-else into complete movies. That doesn’t take anything away from him. Without him being the magnet to attract and ignite others’ talent, there wouldn’t have been a THX 1138, an American Graffiti, or a Star Wars.

So no fan-boyz pile-on (a soft & loving pile-on, to be sure) and hope that we finally realize that George Lucas will never finish Star Wars, because he never had a Star Wars film, in him, to begin with. Rather, he had films that he loved growing up and put bits of them together over, and over, and over again, to make a monied success of his own.

Take a look at the world through the eyes of George Lucas:
SLATE.com: Star Wars Is a Postmodern Masterpiece: How George Lucas spliced together Westerns, jidaigeki, space adventure serials, fairy tales, dogfighting movies, and Casablanca to create Hollywood’s first world-conquering collage. By Forrest Wickman

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#1435535
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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 - MKV (Released)
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DrDre said:

It’s been a while, but after having reviewed the earlier shots, I’ve updated the indoor shots to have better color dynamics and separation (outdoor shots will follow):

(etc.)

I’ve looked around (but not all 600+ pages) and couldn’t find the source pictures to compare your work before (pre-LUT) and after (latest LUT). Did you ever post them here? If not, would you post shots of what you’ve worked from?

UPDATED: Never mind – I did several “word searches” and nothing additional showed up. (Thanks to anyone who looked and also found nothing.)