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#1241960
Topic
4k77 released
Time

You_Too said:

As for the wide shot of the stormtroopers and “the gang” in the speeder, (I’ve always loved this shot for some reason) this is almost exactly what it looks like in the reference:

DrDre said:

benduwan said:

DrDre said:

Here’s another quick correction:

to pink

Yeah, it could use a little more work:

I like both of these in their own way. Definitely some different hues and curves in respective areas, Dre’s highlights might be pushed a little high without also adjusting the lower end. Evident on the middle Stormtrooper and wall corner. Just a thought
Also some unappealing pink in the armor

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#1241397
Topic
4k77 released
Time

DrDre said:

You_Too said:

Williarob said:
In the meantime, there is a spin off project called “The Skywalker Edition” that uses 4K77 as a jumping off point and may be closer to what you had in mind:

I’m gonna watch the preview and see what it looks like. The screenshot has nice details but is slightly too green and the whites are crushed. But I suspect this is a case of conversion between 16-235 and 0-255 that has caused it. It’s also more cropped, but that’s understandable if it’s based on more sources.

If I do the same kind of fix to that shot from 4K77, (Balance the white point but keep the mid balance and alter the gamma a bit) it comes out like this:

Actually, I think a lot of detail is missing in that shot, and it’s overall too bright, and too yellow in my view. If I had to wager a guess, I would go with something like this:

Yeah the punchy yellow/green desert is too much. I like this toned down look

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#1238464
Topic
Star Wars Prequels 35mm 4K Filmized Editions by Emanswfan
Time

emanswfan said:

So here’s the clip, it’s rendered at 50mbps x264 at 4K. Obviously this is streaming level quality appropriate for youtube and not UHD bluray quality but that should be fine for just a preview.

https://mega.nz/#!bX5zVCZJ
Decryption Key: !EJ1lB3vHebXlMi-92oZDtydG_-DyOvKdLtl-kS76CFY

Looks much more appealing and film natural than your early concepts. I love how you managed to stick with the original timing but with a less video game aesthetic. The lightsabers always turn out weird in my experience. The deep blue doesn’t echo it’s intended look but it’s hard to fix. I’ve found that isolating the lightsabers in some way and using a transfer mode on top of the emulation helps add the luminance back to it.

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#1224727
Topic
4k77 - shot by shot color grading
Time

" Color and Light

We tend to think of objects as having fixed colors—an apple, for example, is red. In reality, an object’s appearance results from the way it reflects the particular light that is falling on it. Under white light, the apple appears red because it tends to reflect light in the red portion of the spectrum and absorb light of other wavelengths. If a filter is used to remove red from the light source, the apple reflects very little light and appears black. The fact that the color makeup of light can change, means that shifts can occur in the color appearance of objects illuminated by it. Within limits, the brain compensates for these changes in color appearance and we see things as we expect them to appear. But the changes are there nonetheless and can affect the way people respond to objects and environments. "

Growing up with the films, we so easily associate how scenes look based on their brief appearance. We all understand that the Tantive is white, and the death star is gray, and space is black…but when you start to stare at frames for hours weeks and years the subtleties become glaring. In my understanding, Dr.Dre is and has been among the top frame-starers in existence. He welcomes the subtleties as an old friend and constant nuisance. (sips tea)

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#1216758
Topic
4k77 - shot by shot color grading
Time

Woof.

People say they want freedom of choice, but they really want freedom from choice. Too many options make it harder to decide–but I like each in their own way 😦 It’s like picking one child over the others, It’s just not right.

If only you could wrap it up into one single video file that has a dropdown for “Look” which applies different LUTs on top–that would be revolutionary!
https://i.imgur.com/Ixffj0v.png

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#1216744
Topic
1997 Star Wars Special Edition 35mm Project
Time

Handman said:

Thanks poita!

It’s really silly how the 97 SE print looks better in every way from the 77 IB Tech in that shot, other than the glaring green sabre.

I beg to differ.

poita said:

I found the reference in one of my books:
"Massassi hangar, interior: “Thet had one complete X-Wing, a Y-Wing and some bits and pieces, painted ships. SO I took the plate, reduced it, and then put it down in the left centre; then I took the same plate, reduced it even more, and put it in the background on the right hand side of the frame; then I painted around it, just lots of little lights in the back, a couple of shapes, a few hoses hanging down. Youd be amazed how little is on that painting”

What book?

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#1216598
Topic
1997 Star Wars Special Edition 35mm Project
Time

Found some approx. frames and did some quick matching using Dr.Dre’s ColorMatch tool. Matched the scan to both 4K77 and the Special Edition Projected Color Ref. with a little contrast adjustment. Here are the results:

4K77 match
SE Projected match

Source frames:

poita scan
https://i.imgur.com/tJrgGGx.jpg

4K77 UHD RC1
https://i.imgur.com/6K5d2DD.jpg

SE Projected Color Ref
https://i.imgur.com/FM8kTgl.jpg


I then used the colormatching results and Neverar’s Technicolor Recreation as color references and made a correction for the scan that’s most likely innacurate, but derives from good intention–and boy is this thing CLEAN. Thank you poita!

https://i.imgur.com/gwgwaKR.png
https://i.imgur.com/Uclv5az.png
https://i.imgur.com/sRnOoTU.png
https://i.imgur.com/Spca9Ou.png

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#1215504
Topic
Star Wars Prequels 35mm 4K Filmized Editions by Emanswfan
Time

NeverarGreat said:

Those look really nice! The extra brightness makes everything really pop. It looks like the shadows are rather crushed though, and some gradients have shifted too green. But overall it’s a big improvement.

UnitéD2 said:

I like it too ! Perhaps it deserves to be a little less contrasty though.

Shuggy said:

Wow. That’s a huge improvement. The younglings shot is gorgeous.

I would add that I too find the look a little dark for my tastes - the colours seem a bit “dirty” to me - but kudos all the same.

Ryan-SWI said:

I think the changes help some things pop, but there’s a lot of lost detail in there.

There’s also some over-exposure in a couple of the scenes because of the altercations, specifically the ‘sand’ scene.

The biggest issue with the OT BDs (outside the obvious altercations) were the crushed blacks and loss of fine detail as a result, I fear a similar case here. I do quite a bit of professional editing and that’s just my opinion, but I think you could achieve the same ‘look’ you’re going for without abusing the contrast and exposure quite so much.

I hope I don’t come off as overly negative or snarky, just giving my opinion!

You did a good job color correcting things to your apparent liking, I’m just commenting on some more technical details (:

I’ve taken all critiques into account and matched the contrast better to what’s present on the discs. I’ve been attempting exports of the film with a few failed outputs, but at the moment I am waiting on a 4TB drive to arrive in the mail because I’m all out of space. (Who knew you could fill lots of TeraBytes just by being a part of these forums:P) When I get it exported I’ll upload it to the Spleen and start a new thread to avoid confusion in this one.

From there you can watch it and provide further input if you’d like, and I’ve already made note of some issues like ghosting from moving objects, but this correction is merely a single grade over the entire film so that I can watch it and not cringe. In the future I expect to do entire scene by scene corrections but for now this is good enough for me.

Collipso said:

can these 35mm trailers be used as reference?

Czech Episode II 35mm Scope Trailer

Czech Episode III 35mm Flat Trailer

Czech Episode I 35mm Scope Trailer

Czech Episode II 35mm Scope Trailer 2

Czech Episode III 35mm Flat Trailer 2

These are great sources, and I’ve had them bookmarked since they were posted. I might inquire about the source file from Rob, instead of settling for a YouTube compression, as they will be great for a scene by scene correction in the future! My current single-grade correction is not based on any sources–just an intuitive “repainting” of the colors built on some custom film looks.

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#1201813
Topic
Star Wars Prequels 35mm 4K Filmized Editions by Emanswfan
Time

As I, and many of you, have been following this thread for a while, there seems to have been a falloff from this project–and lack of progress (from my own perspective). So to remedy that, I’ve spent a while on my own designing some custom film looks for the prequel films.

Here’s are some frames from Attack of the Clones. As it has the worst color out of any Star Wars film I thought I should post these first… for the starting source I used the HD reconstruction of the DVD as the Blu-ray has a green tint and is very smooth, lacking texture. Below each are their frame comparisons. Enjoy!

geonosis-film

http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/DZ67NNNX

impressive-film

http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/JCMFNNNU

death-film

http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/DZ6WNNNX

sand-film

http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/JCMJNNNU

love-film

http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/JCM1NNNU

balcony-film

http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/DZ6GNNNX

lightning-film

http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/JCMMNNNU

forbiddenlove-film

http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/DZ6PNNNX

fisto-film

http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/JCMCNNNU

yoda-film

http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/JC2JNNNU

younglings-film

http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/DZP7NNNX

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#1190827
Topic
kk650's Regraded Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi V2 (blanket yellow tint removed from blu-ray)
Time

I am very fond of the grade for The Last Jedi. It is insanely better than the infamous pink flesh tones of The Force Awakens, and the punchy reds in The Last Jedi aren’t magenta either. I don’t mind the golden “tint” to the film, a lot of the movie takes place during sunsets or while explosions are occurring or host lush golden light fixtures in Canto Bight. It fits the vibe, and personally, retracting that aspect degrades the image. Having its own style is part of the filmmaking process

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#1190805
Topic
Interstellar - ColorMatching BluRay to 70mm
Time

I’ve been planning on buying the 4K copy of Interstellar. I know MakeMKV has the ability to rip some 4K discs and I have a blu-ray drive in my computer that is supported in the list. Has anyone compared the color timing with the normal blu-ray? I figure once I pick up the 4K version I will make it my mission to complete this project