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- #1656404
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- Star Trek Deep Space Nine - LaserDisc to 1080pHD Upscale
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I am aware. Thanks anyway
I am aware. Thanks anyway
It’s sad that physical media gets harder to find as time passes. Even collector items can only last so long.
Someone should really fund a sort of (inter-)national library dedicated to preserving physical media - that way, at some point, any company could decide what to remaster.
Or even private people could try their hand at it, as long as the originals remain in the library - the least that could be done would be “scanning/ripping” them and then make the files available for purchase/download.
Anyway, you have a very valid point.
I was really surprised about the quality as well - that being said, the community working on the files uses several Laser Discs per episode, stacking them and then combining the output in order to minimize signal drop-outs and degradation present in the original physical discs.
It’s a lot of hard work and the community as well as its members deserve all the praise.
I will find that out when I get to it 😉
That’s possible, haven’t had a chance to look beyond season 1 and parts of season 2, but I was really amazed at the quality difference.
Hello community - exciting news:
I have been tinkering with an already upscaled, Laser Disc-based, source in order to get better quality. With impressive results I think.
Check out my new main topic “Star Trek Deep Space Nine - LaserDisc to 1080pHD Upscale”, located in “Fan Edits and Projects for Other Properties”.
For more questions contact me directly.
Have fun!
And please let me know about the quality - feel free to discuss in the (new) main topic 😉
Regards,
Leland
Hey there community - I have been putting my DVD-Upscale-Project on temporary hold because I wanted to give this a shot - including a new workflow, new software being implemented and re-inventing my workflow.
So, here we go with DS9 season 1, episode 1/2 “Emissary” - upscaled from Laser Disc.
Image Gallery (with slider): https://imgsli.com/Mzk3NzI4
Images also below (PAL-DVD):
Images also below (1080pHD-Upscale):
Have fun an let me know about the quality!
STAR TREK DEEP SPACE NINE - AI-Upscaling Project (LaserDisc to 1080pHD)
*IMPORTANT NOTE: This project is a sort of “extension” of my previous upscale project (Star Trek Deep Space Nine - DVD to 1080pHD Upscale) - I feel it very important to inform this community that the basic file-work of this latest project was not done by me; I was lucky enough to be included in their community (they work from Laser Discs) and be able to use their files. I really have to stress that this community has to keep this “low key” to avoid the other community being shut down, because we all know how certain big companies handle their property.
Anyhow, I wanted to share insights into what I consider “The Best Possible Upscale So Far” (in my opinion anyway).
Therefore: I won’t be anble to give you specifics to replicate this work, since I only added to the workflow without knowing what came previously.
But just this much: The Laser Discs as a source (and the upscale already done by the extremely talented members of the other community) are stunning - the detail level surpasses the DVDs and the results are AMAZING!!!
Still - Have fun with the (latest/newest) project!
Regards,
Leland
Thanks, had a busy week. But I will resume work shortly.
@oojason:
Thanks, that’s very kind of you to say.
Ok, here we go with DS9 season 1, episode 5 “Babel”.
Image Gallery (with slider): https://imgsli.com/Mzg3MTIx
Images also below (PAL-DVD):
Images also below (1080pHD-Upscale):
Have fun an let me know about the quality!
Ok, here we go with DS9 season 1, episode 4 “A Man Alone”.
Image Gallery (with slider): https://imgsli.com/Mzg3MTE2
Images also below (PAL-DVD):
Images also below (1080pHD-Upscale):
Have fun an let me know about the quality!
Ok, here we go with DS9 season 1, episode 3 “Past Prologue”.
Image Gallery (with slider): https://imgsli.com/Mzg3MTEy
Images also below (PAL-DVD):
Images also below (1080pHD-Upscale):
Have fun an let me know about the quality!
Thanks, and sorry again for being absent so long. Having a lot of family issues and battling depression. Not always easy, but I am getting better. In a ok spot right now and wanted to share again. More to follow.
Hello community - I am so sorry that I haven’t been around, but I am trying to make up for it.
I’ve got a new workflow and a few modifications, which will allow me to redo the episodes I had already done without much hassle.
So, here we go with DS9 season 1, episode 1/2 “Emissary”.
Image Gallery (with slider): https://imgsli.com/Mzg0OTYz
Images also below (PAL-DVD):
Images also below (1080pHD-Upscale):
Have fun an let me know about the quality!
@hktrooper:
Thanks for the detailed feedback. I appreciate the kind words.
Comparing the upscales with the streaming version is also a point of interest for me, since I do not use any streaming services, strictly comparing the upscales to DVDs.
I have heared, however, from several people, that streaming versions are more “challenged” when it comes to quality - one person even suggested that Paramount+/CBS perhaps simply “blew up” the screen size to service HD-displays but in consequence worsening already existing problems (interlacing, rainbowing, dot crawl and such).
Since I do not have the option to compare to streaming versions, I’d be happy to hear about your experiences.
Hello community - back from my vacation with new stuff:
Season 1, episode 5, “Babel” - is done.
Image Gallery (with slider): https://imgsli.com/Mjk5ODg3
Images also below (PAL-DVD):
Images also below (1080pHD-Upscale):
Have fun an let me know about the quality!
Watched the first episode last night & over all very impressed, there was a couple of weird instances, the first was when Sisko is talking to Jake on the holo deck, Sisko’s left side of his face has got weird lines on it & near the end when the worm hole opens up, there is a weird shot of Dax’s face just appears but overall very good & looking forward to rest of the episode’s.
Thanks for the feedback. Yeah, the thing about the “ghost face” on Dax happened because the model tried to interpret a face when in fact there was none (or in this case Dax’s face was not in focus), couldn’t be helped.
@vranir:
Thanks, as soon as I get around to season 4, I will have a look. Your help is appreciated.
@Baobab Archiver:
Yeah, close-ups are good, mid-range is still ok, but anything far away or in the background is kinda “hit-or-miss”, but it’s (so far) still the most “tolerable” workflow.
Hello there community, I will be on vacation for the next ten days, so I will not be posting anything during this time.
Please don’t be sad or discouraged, as soon as I am back, I will continue posting (remember: Season 1 & 2 of DS9 are completely done - season 3 has a new workflow that seems to be going well, the first two episodes are done as well).
So, see you soon - perhaps some of you will have had time to watch the already available episode and discuss about the quality.
I am looking forward to reading some stuff around here once I am back.
Regards,
Leland
I always mix Dax and Invasive Procedures up.
Well, they’re both centered around the character, so it’s understandable
Yes, in my own upscaling attempt I was shocked by how bad Dax was. I thought for sure that I must have done something wrong when I saw how blurred the end credits were.
I guess something went wrong during the transfer from the tapes to DVD … since it’s present in both the NTSC and PAL version.
Season 1, episode 4, “A Man Alone” - is done.
Image Gallery (with slider): https://imgsli.com/MjkzNjg3
Images also below (PAL-DVD):
Images also below (1080pHD-Upscale):
Have fun!
@zombiedog:
Yeah, the source material (PAL-DVD) had a “slight” quality increase as the episodes went on, unfortunately not much. The worst episode (visually speaking) is episode 8 titled “Dax” - the source (both PAL and NTSC) looks like a very badly recorded vhs-tape: It’s soft-focused, blurry and generally has a sort of “misty/gloomy” appearance.