If I was interested which I’m not, the first thing I would ask is if it is a Flat print or if it is Anamorphic.
From the photos in the listing, it’s Flat.
What is the aource used for this grade? I know it’s a 35mm scan but there’s many scans that floating around.
Interesting project, I’m in!
Just so everyone don’t get surprised, if you have not seen The Mask during its original run in 1994 and the Blu-ray is how you’ve always seen The Mask, you’ll notice that his face in the 35mm version is not the same green. That’s normal, because for the Blu-ray, I think they updated the mask colours to match the comic books more, but it’s not how it was original filmed.
Here’s a clip to see the difference:
I am not sure about color correction for the moment, this is pretty much untouched, people could do their own corrections if they desire. But it’s something I could consider in the longer run.
As for aspect ratio, yes I would do two versions, an open matte version and a 1.85:1 version.
Here’s a preview in motion 😃
Hi everyone!
Just sharing with you guys a very early sneak peak of the scan! It’s still very raw not much color fixing yet and not full resolution.
Cheers.
Hi everyone,
I just want to say a big thank you to everyone who have donated in the past week. We have accumulated $382.16 to date. Just so you have an idea, the whole project cost an estimated $1025.
We should have an update on the progress of the scan in the next few weeks. Stay tuned. Cheers!
BoingoBanshee said:
No denying a film print is nothing compared to a negative. However, if it’s a 4K scan of a film print or an interpositive, then it’s 4K. Saying otherwise kicks sand in the faces of labels like Vinegar Syndrome and Second Sight who have done 4K scans of films like The Beastmaster where their negatives are lost and had to work with best surviving elements and those releases are gorgeous. Doing a 4K scan of a film print outside the studio system is something I would not look down upon or say “eh, it’s not the negative though is it?”. With Warner’s track record of their 4K scans where they actually have access to the negatives, they still end up screwing it up such as the Burton Batman films. So I’m very excited someone is scanning a print of The Mask…in 4K.
You have a good point about Vinegar Syndrome using prints as source for some of their 4K releases. I do believe a 35mm print contains enough details to be worth capturing at 4K. And I totally agree with you that a 4K scan of a 35mm print is technically a “real 4K” scan 😃
The goal of this project is to preserve in the highest possible quality (that is affordable) what we fans have access to, in this case, a 35mm print.
Great indeed. And I guess you intend to also refrain from any filtering, DNR, sharpening or other fuss, right?
Yes, that’s the idea. I will not apply any filtering, DNR, sharpening etc. If the colors and contrast look good, I might not even do color adjustments. The goal is to have the end result look as close as possible to this specific print. Every print is different and I don’t know how the movie “should” look or how it is intended by the director, so I will keep it simple and have the end result as representative of this specific print as possible.
The only thing I might touch up are obvious and distracting dirts or scratches. But even then I would do it carefully and will avoid adding details where it did not exist before.
Definetly interested too, i’ll wait for some preview pictures too but i’d love seeing this movie in 4K. Thank you in advance 😃
No intention of spoiling this great project, but you won’t see it “in 4K” with this either, as the film print will be far from that resolution level. It’s already questionable whether 2K/HD will be reached, as it’s usually a copy of a copy of a copy (which reminds me of “Fight Club,” which could also benefit from a long-overdue UHD release, but I’m drifting …).
This won’t be a real 4K as we are not scanning from the original camera negatives. But we are scanning the 35mm print at the highest possible quality to ensure that we are capturing all of the details available on the film. Scanning at 2K would be borderline and we might miss some details, and scanning 8K would be overkill and we just get a bigger image with not necessarily more details.
It will definitely have more resolution (details) than HD (1080p), at least for the non SFX scenes.
On top of this, the grading should be closer to what you’d see in theatres (not that the Blu-ray grading was too much messed with) and we get to see it in open matte.
I got a 2D open matte version of the movie that hasn’t been converted from 3D. I would like to share it, but my messages are having trouble sending.
Possible to know the source? I thought all open matte are sourced from the “left eye” of the 3D video?
Hey guys! The print is in good condition and the project is confirmed, we are moving forward with the scan! PM me if you want to donate. Cheers!
Yes, we could add the two audio commentaries from the DVD/Bluray. I would assume the track from the Bluray is higher quality.
What’s the difference between this version and DrDre’s FOTR:EE Dremasterized?
2024-07-18 UPDATE
Hey all! We have a sneak peak at the scan! See post: https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Mask-1994-4K-Open-Matte-35mm-Scan-2024-Edition-WIP/id/119406/page/2#1599618
2024-07-04 UPDATE
Hey all, Happy Independence Day! Good news, the print is in good condition and I am confirming the scan! I added photos of the print in the original message. I’ll start to take donations, please send me a private message if you are interested. Cheers!
I am preparing a new 4K scan of the classic movie The Mask from a 35mm print in open matte. This is Jim Carrey’s second big movie and Cameron Diaz’s first appearance in Hollywood!
This year is The Mask’s 30th anniversary and there is still no sign on any official 4K UHD home release. So I think this scan could give us something better than the current Blu-ray version.
The print has been purchased and it will be shipped to our scanner soon. This print is different from the one used for the 2020’s project. I will take donations once I get confirmation that the print is in good condition to get scanned.
PM me if you’re interested in donating!
I’ll be posting updates at the top if you want to keep up with the progress of this project. Feel free to PM me with any questions, concerns or suggestions you have.
Cheers,
Blakninja
The print comes from the US and has English audio (optical and DTS). The print is open matte with SFX scenes hard matted to 1.85:1.
The below preview images are photos of the print using a cell phone.
I will front the cost but will need help to fund this project. Here’s the cost breakdown.
$520 (PRINT + SHIPPING TO AND BACK)
$505 (SCAN + HARD DRIVE)
Total cost: $1025
Total donation amount: $382.16 (37% funded).
Once donations reach $1025, money would be put towards my next project.
With a minimum contribution of US$10, you will receive a 4K scan of the print. Current audio options: Optical audio, Cinema DTS, Laserdisc Dolby 5.1, Laserdisc DTS and audio commentaries.
PM me if you’re interested in donating!
From OT
Post format credit to cjmp and TristandShout64
I’m curious about the 3D left eye version. I have heard that both the 3D left eye and right eye are “different” to the regular 2D version because they had to make adjustments (alter the image) to create the 3D version. Since this Filmized is sourced from the 3D left eye, does that mean it’s slightly different to the 2D version?
I’ve never seen the 3D version so I can’t compare.
Why is everyone talking about 35mm negatives scan?
I think DrDre uses a 35mm print (or a scan of a 35mm print) for color reference. He’s not using 35mm negatives nor a scan of the 35mm negatives.
A full scan of the OCN will not be the correct color correct? Meaning we would have to regrade it to match the 35mm print?
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Hi everyone, just a question, what’s the best way to scan a 35mm film reel? Do people do it at home or are all the scans here sent to expert companies? I got my hands on some reels and would like to try to make some scans. Thanks.
What scanner did you use to scan this in 4K? What DPI is used?
So you are taking the Bluray EE as source and upscaling it to 4K UHD?
The screenshots are amazing.
Do you own the 35mm and use as reference? Like you would look up every cell in the 35mm and try to replicate that on your computer? Wow.
So exited about this after reading your description. Can I have a link too? Thanks!