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#1593876
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<strong>The Acolyte</strong> (live action series set in The High Republic era) - a general discussion thread
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The mysteries around what exactly went down on Osha’s homeworld definitely have me intrigued. Whatever it is I assume at this point it’ll likely be more to it than that.

The production values, sets, the effects, sound, acting are all on point. As well as the choreography and direction. The story has me engaged, wanting to know more, and is cleverly done.

I’m drinking in the depiction of the Jedi here so far; both the older Jedi and the younger more arrogant Jedi, although I guess there’ll be more to come on that as well. We’ve already learnt a lot, far more than I expected for the opening two episodes. A big plus for the fight choreography; slick, fresh and yet felt very Star Wars.

Really enjoyed this so far, and looking forward to next week’s episode.

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#1593723
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<strong>Star Wars: Hunters</strong> - a 'free-to-play' (in-game purchases) arena combat video game
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I just that myself and thought the same thing. Three years and it doesn’t look much different than it was back in 2021.

A pity, without the microtransactions it does look like kind of fun.

Other than Outlaws, and maybe the Eclipse game and KOTR remake (if they ever get finished or released), there doesn’t see much new games on the horizon?

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#1593103
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Star Wars Original Trilogy: Cerveza Cristal Edition
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Windows7Guy100 said:

There’s apparently another edition of the original Star Wars trilogy. In 2003, when the the trilogy premiered on TV in Chile, it aired without traditional commercial breaks, instead having advertisements for a beer brand called Cerveza Cristal inserted into the movies themselves. Would anyone on this forum be interested in helping find these cuts in their entirety?

Did you have any luck in finding these, Windows7Guy100? Or a reconstruction of them?

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#1592697
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New Lucas interview 2: 'Insists Unaltered Versions Of The OT Will Never Be Released'
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Keyan Farlander said:

Caston said:

Many of the comments in the Star Wars Underworld twitter thread makes some very good points, and the majority are wanting the theatrical cuts being released, or are calling George out for him comments.

That is pleasing to see, that most see straight through George and his claims.

Yeah, it appears the days of George just repeating shit until it becomes an accepted “truth” by many fans are long gone (other than the lazy/clickbait media and George/Prequel worshippers, of course!)

 


 

The following abridged screenshot (edited for length) is from Lucasfilm department director Bill Kimberlin’s excellent 2018 book - Inside The Star Wars Empire, from ‘The Distraction’ chapter, starting on Page 194.

It covers George Lucas refusing the option to have a duplicate negative of the original cuts to be made. Something that “could be easily done”. Instead George simply said “This is the original version” (meaning the 1997 SE cut was now “the original version”):
 

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So when George used to tell everyone all the many excuses in the past as to why he couldn’t preserve or restore the original cuts, it was all rubbish. For someone who even today goes on record about the importance of preserving film history, George actively suppressed the preservation and archiving of his own film, as well as the films of other directors in the Original Trilogy.
 

Lucas is also on record as specifically wanting the original cuts of the OT films to no longer exist:

George Lucas: “There will only be one. And it won’t be what I would call the ‘rough cut’, it’ll be the 'final cut.’

^ a screenshot from “How the Grinch Stole Star Wars” - an article from the Save Star Wars website.

(from Category No. 17 of the George Lucas: Star Wars Creator, Unreliable Narrator & Time Travelling Revisionist… thread)

 
 

The entire “Inside The Star Wars Empire” book is a really good enjoyable read and would recommend anyone to go and buy it.

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#1592661
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New Lucas interview 2: 'Insists Unaltered Versions Of The OT Will Never Be Released'
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From the New Lucas interview - the originals “look terrible” thread, by digitalfreaknyc:

Haarspalter said:

The complete Cannes interview (with George Lucas):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHXLsHOdPiw

Fast forward to timecode 53:08 … the interviewer asks Lucas a question from a fan, if he will release the original versions in the future. Lucas drops the “it looks terrible” quote a few seconds later.

Thanks Haarspalter.

I think the whole “Special Edition” section is worth viewing. It is only 5 minutes long, starting at 50m 42s into the video, and there are also chapters timestamped in the video description.
 

The part where George talks about the film belonging to the director and he “should have the right to have the movie the way he wants it” (but makes no mention of Kershner or Marquand directing the other two OT films, nor him making changes to their films), and George then talks about Michelangelo, starts at 55m 23s.

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#1592630
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New Lucas interview 2: 'Insists Unaltered Versions Of The OT Will Never Be Released'
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And as everyone knows, ‘neither The_Empire Strikes Back or Return Of The Jedi are available as their respective directors intended, or indeed made, on a modern and quality digital format.’ 😦
 

From Category 39 of the ‘George Lucas: Star Wars Creator, Unreliable Narrator & Time Travelling Revisionist…’ thread:
 

An abridged screenshot from JW Rinzler’s ‘The Making Of Episode III’ book; a quoted conversation between Frank Oz and George Lucas…

^ George Lucas: “Seriously, that’s why I’m a member of the Film Foundation (filmmakers for film preservation). A director should be able to change his films - but nobody else.

At the time of above conversation George Lucas had already made changes to directors Irvin Kershner’s ‘Empire Strikes Back’, and Richard Marquand’s ‘Return Of The Jedi’ - and would also make go on to make further additional changes to both films.
 

Neither the Empire Strikes Back or Return Of The Jedi are available as their respective directors intended, or indeed made, on a modern and quality digital format.

 
 

Also, all of the following quotes are from George Lucas, taken from his speech to the US Congress in 1988, on the subject of altering films…
 

“American works of art belong to the American public; they are part of our cultural history.”

“The public’s interest is ultimately dominant over all other interests.”

“It will soon be possible to create a new ‘original’ negative with whatever changes or alterations the copyright holder of the moment desires.”

“In the future it will become even easier for old negatives to become lost and be “replaced” by new altered negatives. This would be a great loss to our society. Our cultural history must not be allowed to be rewritten.”

“People who alter or destroy works of art and our cultural heritage for profit or as an exercise of power are barbarians.”

“Attention should be paid to the interest of those who are yet unborn, who should be able to see this generation as it saw itself, and the past generation as it saw itself.”

 
An article with the full speech by George Lucas, at Force Material: ‘George Lucas explains why you shouldn’t digitally alter films
 

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#1592629
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New Lucas interview 2: 'Insists Unaltered Versions Of The OT Will Never Be Released'
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I thought this deserved its own thread, rather than posting it digitalfreaknyc’s New Lucas interview - the originals “look terrible” thread, as it is a different topic being discussed by George Lucas doing the media rounds at Cannes, for his honorary award.
 

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George Lucas “I think a film belongs to its creator. When Michelangelo made the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel, he looked at it and said: I’m going to redo this part.”

 
^ The Star Wars Underworld twitter thread link: https://x.com/TheSWU/status/1794151443835781317
 

A ScreenRant article on the subject:

George Lucas Defends The Star Wars Special Editions, Insists Unaltered Versions Of The OT Will Never Be Released
 

Many of the comments in the Star Wars Underworld twitter thread makes some very good points, and the majority are wanting the theatrical cuts to be released, or are calling George out for him comments.

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#1592427
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George Lucas will receive Honorary Palme d’or at Cannes festival
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Spartacus01 said:

If you focus on the ethnicity of the characters of a movie instead of enjoying the movie itself, I honestly think you are the problem here. Who cares if the characters are white, black, green or transparent? That’s not the point. So yes, it’s a stupid criticism.

That is a huge false equivalency in your opening sentence: Who said you can’t do both? Enjoy it, but also acknowledge there are some issues? Most of us here all love the OT, but can recognise there are some shortcomings.

Did you not read the thread? George himself brought the subject up doing the media rounds in Cannes.

It is George’s answer to the criticism that people appear to be taking issue with. Keyan literally said:

Keyan Farlander said:

to highlight that it is George’s answer to the valid criticism of there being mainly white men in the movies that makes no sense: Because he hired Billy Dee and Samuel L Jackson, and that “Most of the people are aliens!”

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#1592197
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Worst dialogue from...........AOTC!!!
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walking_carpet said:

the whole clone plot of AOTC falls flat on its face long before this scene.  And maybe its nitpicking compared to the more glaring flaws of the PT.  But with PT apologists raving in awe over the “machiavellen”, “intrigue”,“slieght of hand” plots, it needs to be pointed out that palpatine can only do this because everyone around him is dumber than a bag of rocks and acts completely illogical. and not just illogical given the circumstances, but also against their own emotions.

There were too many scenes like this throughout the three Prequels films.
 

a fun light-hearted parody of the Anakin/Padme love scenes from AOTC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvkZiqlrNZY (5 minutes)

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#1592129
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Star Wars Trilogy 1997 Special Edition DVDs?
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ArcherEdits said:

The '97SE vhs tapes are the Star Wars OT I grew up on, but I’ve rally struggled finding a good quality version of them since, really bums me out 😕

Check the 1997 Special Edition OT Preservation Projects category of the An Index Of Projects & Help Thread for Star Wars Preservations thread for all the 1997SE projects, including some HD projects that have been released.

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#1592128
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Info Wanted: Link to Star Wars 1997 special editions?
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ArcherEdits said:

I’m aware of Adywan’s ESB reconstruction, and it’s very good - are there any for ANH and RoTJ available?

Yes. It is probably worth checking the 1997 Special Edition OT Preservation Projects category of the An Index Of Projects & Help Thread for Star Wars Preservations thread for all the 1997SE projects, but:
 

Harmy has a STAR WARS ReSpecialized Edition '97R (Released) - HD Reconstruction

and

ImBateman’s Empire Strikes Back 1997 Special Edition HD (a more accurate) Reconstruction (Released) - HD Reconstruction

ImBateman’s Return of the Jedi 1997 Special Edition HD Reconstruction (Released) - HD Reconstruction

may be what you’re looking for?

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#1592044
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Worst Dialogue from............................The Phantom Menace!
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Sideburns of BoShek said:

philraid said:

There’s one that I can’t believe nobody ever brings up. Although granted there’s a lot to choose from.

Padme: “You come from a warm planet, Ani. A little too warm for my taste. Space is cold.”

Ha! Yeah, that’s bad.

 

Jar-Jar Binks who is 20+, says that Padme 14, is “pretty hot”, to a 9 year old:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=980sRSeiBeM

Jar-Jar to Anakin: “Da Queens- a bein grossly nice, mesa tinks. Pretty hot!”

I genuinely can’t remember that being in the film. I’ve probably seen more fan edits of TPM than the official cuts, so can see why many fan editors opted to cut that disturbingly cringe scene.

Among cutting many others.

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#1591975
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George Lucas will receive Honorary Palme d’or at Cannes festival
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Steren said:

He arrived today !
That’s so refreshing to have new public declarations of him.
Check out that one, https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2830844893761474
After 5 minutes , he’s asked about streaming plateforms and AI in movies, quite interesting to hear him on that

No, thanks.

The bullshit George Lucas spouts in here is more than enough for one day: New Lucas interview - the originals “look terrible”
 

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#1591974
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<strong>The Acolyte</strong> (live action series set in The High Republic era) - a general discussion thread
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Skybatman said:

new fight scene between Master Sol vs Mae:
https://youtu.be/Z1Nmfsvq6d0?feature=shared

Some good and fresh choreography there. It is actually refreshing to see fight scenes that aren’t constant cuts every 10 milliseconds, or embarrassingly slow or formulaic.

I liked that, and the other new trailer spots on the official SW YouTube channel:

The Acolyte | Evolve | Streaming June 4 on Disney+

The Acolyte | Creating the Acolyte | Streaming June 4 on Disney+

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#1590925
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<strong>2011 SE</strong> : The changes to the OT films &amp; general 2011 Special Edition discussion thread
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Lexa C said:

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ORIGINAL Funeral Pyre/Celebration | Return of the Jedi (1983) [DeEd, Blu-ray, GOUT, LPP]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88Z6G9LewT8 - 4 minute video from Star Wars Comparison

Shit, they really did butcher the editing to the end of Return of the Jedi for the Special Editions. Not just adding Hayden in, either.

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#1590150
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'The Mandalorian &amp; Grogu' (Upcoming Movie) - General Discussion Thread
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Hollywood Reporter are saying that Sigourney Weaver is in talks to join the film:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/star-wars-sigourney-weaver-mandalorian-and-grogu-1235896490
 

For some reason my brain went straight to “Oh, they’re going to recast her as Leia”. Not sure why. And I’ll add that to the long list of things I am so wrong about!