Sounds pretty cool. Will watch for updates.
I have never seen this movie but I remember that scene being in all the trailers.
Ok so after having seen this I do have criticisms and suggestions. I like the idea behind the edit and it’s mostly well done but it needs more work before I would call it 100%.
At the end of the the original movie portion, it seems like we’ve just seen the movie with Bob and Linda excised. Personally I don’t really miss them and their omission was seamless. But the end seems too conclusive before we go on. I would cut from when Loomis sees Michael is gone, straight to the PoV sequence from H2, and mute all the music from the end of H1/opening credits of H2. Maybe do a quick black fade out/in at that point.
After Michael steals the knife, the cut to the hospital has a bit of a jump as we are introduced razor apple boy. I would cut straight to the ambulance arriving even if it means there’s not a continuity in the music (which could be massaged over.) I think the key to the H2 scenes is to stay with Laurie and Dr Loomis as much as possible, while still explaining why everyone in the hospital has disappeared
After Laurie gets anesthesia there is a quick shot of a cop car that shouldn’t be there.
Since the news says three people are dead, mayyyyybe cut short the scene stealing the knife to imply Michael killed the old couple. (Only for continuity sake, since I like that sequence a lot, especially when lady finds the knife missing.) When Nurse Smokey tells Loomis he’s being recalled she also says three teenagers are murdered. I was scratching my head about that, maybe cut out the whole scene in th school? But then why would Loomis be in the car with her, why would he return to the hospital, etc. Maybe her dialogue could be edited to “people” instead of “teenagers” which would be tricky since it’s one long shot (with the sound of a floor waxer in the background!)
In the end when Laurie is trying to escape it seems like she’s gone crazy, yeah the phone doesn’t work but why is she trying to crawl away? Something is missing in the cause/effect chain but I don’t remember H2 enough to know what it is.
Also Jimmy is so annoying I wish he could be trimmed down more, but that’s a personal preference. Although when he slips in the blood is always my favorite part of that movie. The whole H2 portion seems a little deflating as a climax so maybe shortening bits and bobs could keep the tension rolling. For example the security guard in the hallway. He could give the nurse his walkie talkie, she has to go back to work, and he just never reappears until Laurie finds his body; we don’t need to see him encounter Michael.
Perhaps some enterprising soul could make you custom combined end credits instead of jumping around but that’s not a biggie.
About the sound mix. I’ve never seen these with the remixed soundtracks but the first movie sounds like it was improperly down mixed to stereo since the dialogue is very muffled and the music really stands out. H2 portion is better but music still stands out a lot. Mr Sandman won’t be missed but the end music edits could be much cleaner.
There seems to be a bit of a black crush/pixeling in the video encoding which I only found problematic during the initial 1963 pov shot while outside the Myers house in the dark. It gets much better after that.
This edit is definitely a good time if you want a shorter version of the combined events. It needs a bit more work to gel as a single movie though.
Hello, I am trying to combine the best audio/video sources for a movie as well as time correct it. Unfortunately this means stereo audio from a USA dvd with HD German source which was sped to 25 fps.
Converting 25fps video & subs to 23.976, then muxing with the stereo 23.976 audio is no problem. But If I want to use the 25fps DTS surround, it would need to be time stretched which I don’t think I can do in MKVtoolnix or anything else I use. If it wasn’t DTS I could just use Reaper. Any ideas? Thanks!
Swm iso KDS original English dubs synced! Halp! 🙂
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Mr Jones I sent you a pm about a week ago, I hope you receive it! 😉
Yes I hope BuccoBruce can return soon. In the past it would have taken me a week to download this so I didn’t ask for a link before. His project really sounds like an ideal multilingual preservation of all the best audio sources. Even without the video portion it would be great to have an archive of all the unique mixes that aren’t screwed up in mastering or authoring etc. Although more modern crappy mixes deserve to be preserved too, even if they’re on currently available media. Because one day they won’t be.
Look at [listen to] Dirty Harry, where the mono audio is just panned all around for the stereo mix. Maybe there’s a good copy of the mono or a tasteful modern surround mix, but all those shitty mixes should be preserved for posterity (infamy?) as well.
Anyway Akira especially seems to have such a crazy history of being remixed on almost every edition just like the OT. And many of those mixes (i.e. the original hypersonic mix in 24 bit) not available internationally. Not to mention all the obscure dubs people may be interested in, etc etc.
Didn’t know there are like 5 different subtitle translations but it’s not surprising. For example are there many languages where Star Wars (1977) has so many translations?
Anyway, BuccoBruce, come back soon! 😃
Is the French version dubbed? (are there other language dubs?) Maybe it could be used to make an alternate audio where the characters speaking French actually do (or German, Spanish, Russian, etc )
I thought it was a bold move for the pilot episode to include so much Spanish, but that concept was soon abandoned so everyone speaks English in stilted accents.
Ive seen about half this show from the old Indy reconstructions now, which seems like a better way to watch it. I suppose putting them in chronological order could also be an option. The bookends tend to be terribly silly but charming and add necessary context. The edits frequently have repeated or anachronistic credits. A couple episodes had some audio sync issues and one even had an illegible pop up flashing during the last minute or so. Otherwise pretty cool it’s all complete.
Ok I watched D+77 with this mix, flipping back to all the other mixes now and again to compare, and this really takes the cake. I imagine with the reconstruction of the movie in the mid 90s, as many best-generation audio sources were resynced for the new mix. The music particularly sounds much much better. Everything has much more separation and really does bring me back to the theater of 1997 yet amazing to hear with the original cut of the film like it should have been all along. Some of it’s kind of weird like in the cantina the alien voices are quite prominent, and when the Falcon comes out of hyperspace at Alderaan the debris field makes those horrible synth swishes which, correct me if I’m wrong, only started with the 1993 mix from what I can tell. I wish they weren’t there.
Overall it’s much more dynamic, with a lot of aural separation between the various sounds that wasn’t there before. The balance is much more modern sounding though so maybe not for purists but yes for when you show to your kids or family so they’re not put off by “old timey” sound. I swear it all sounded like the same edits to me, with all the same sonic character, but everything is much clearer. (Maybe a touch too much low end.) If there is the one frame sync problem at the tail end of the movie I really couldn’t tell.
How is this coming along? Still curious for maybe a preview scene or a medley of shots from different movies.
I found the Google drive link on Reddit but the folder is now invalid. Is there anywhere to grab these 97 audio mixes? Asking here rather than pm since I’m sure other inquiring minds (and ears) want to know. If this is not a good place please pm. Thanks
I have like 25 or so carded Kenner figs that I haven’t dug up in decades but am going to inventory soon. Can anybody recommend the best way to evaluate ($$) them and recommend storage. Once I get them out I plan on merely slipping them into comic book bags if it’s not too snug a fit, but theres got to be safer solutions. Right now the figs are in a big sturdy chest, which has been locked with a long-lost key…
From what I recall there are a few Yodas, Hoth Luke, probably Dagobah Luke, some Baradas, Darth Vader, X-Wing Luke, and a jawa. Some Han Solos of various persuasions and more. The figs are all Esb, Rotj, and POTF so none with just Star Wars on the card. Surely all of them have got price stickers stuck on them. Who knows if they have turned all yellow over the years.
Looking at eBay sold listings hasn’t been fruitful because the 90s POTF and the “Vintage Collection” make search optimization practically impossible. Is there some sort of price guide for these babies? Or shall I just open them and play with them? 😉
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This is a great idea, can’t wait to check it out.
Doing discs of movies/shows already on streaming is not at all the same as them putting out the unaltered OT. I would sing the praises of Droids & Ewoks on Blu-ray however.
Personally I’d love the highest quality version of the holiday special possible [is the cartoon scanned from film on d+? Haven’t watched it there] but there is a hq tape copy that’s available, and the master might not be much better.
Didn’t the 4k77 guys have a film of this they scanned and made available? (And films of some other classic docs as well?)
From what I gathered elsewhere, the WB scans used for the DVD appeared in HD on the now-defunct DC Universe service. They are presumably available somewhere out there, and I saw at least one unofficial Blu-ray for sale.
Supposedly clips from these are shown in the Blu Ray documentary rather than the newer scans.
Marooned Biker Scout said:
‘Damon Lindelof Says He Was ‘Asked to Leave’ His Star Wars Project’:
Thank God someone is on topic
[Damon Lindelof said:]
or again again try, as Yoda would say.
Yoda would never ever say that 😐
A New Hope was shot in Technicolor … Technicolor is/was notoriously beautiful after all.
Can you guys imagine if Star Wars was actually filmed with Technicolor cameras like the Wizard of Oz? What a trip that would be.
There was a time before Kodak when all color was Technicolor. Even films shot on Kodak had Technicolor prints, dwindling to an occasional thing as color film improved, yet the practice persisted til the early 21st century. To be honest I’m not even sure if I ever saw a dye print in the 80s/90s. Sorry this is going off topic.
But I didn’t know 4k83 was from a 2nd gen copy… so the point of an interposotive is to have better control of colors, and then the internegs and release positives don’t need color correction? I guess the 4k83 print is basically the same as an interpositive? For exhibition I’ve only heard of that for 70mm blowups but not straight 35mm copies. There must be a greater discussion of this print somewhere–in this thread or the other forum?
Supposedly these shorts are in the public domain so WB hasn’t been interested in releasing them in HD, until the forthcoming Blu-ray next month. But there are many gray market releases of these cartoons on DVD, from who knows what sources. These versions are freely available on YouTube etc. WB themselves put out SD versions as bonus features on the Superman The Movie bluray.
Are there any unofficial HD scans from film prints or just weird DVDs?
Was the shoe erased in cleanup? Or were the Battle scenes recomposited at some point and the shoe omitted?
Marvel movies are awesome and each one is not only unique and different, but enjoyable by people with adult sensibilities. Star Wars has never been better than under Disney, with each film being better than the last. Disney themselves can’t stop innovating with groundbreaking features. American culture has never been so original or relevant!
It sounds amazing, can I get a link please?
Here you go
So Snow White was restored by Lowrwy “in 4k” in 1994. I imagine a great deal of work was undertaken to copy the original negative into a new three strip negative, a color negative, and/or a digital environment. Did Disney reuse that work as basis for the subsequent releases, either the same digital files or new scans of the 1994 copies? (In that case might this new 4k be Disney’s first use of Snow White’s original negative since 1994?)
Now I’m not sure why Cinderella 4k wouldn’t have the original audio mix, unless Disney found really high quality music masters to drop in, like what they did for Sleeping Beauty bluray. I doubt anything like that exists for Snow White though and don’t really want to hear someone try to make an Atmos mix from the original mono mix. 🙉
Yes I could be wrong but I thought that one or more movies were re-rendered for fullscreen with characters repositioned accordingly to suit the framing, not just the camera reframed in general. If it’s true then I’m sure it varies by shot with the minimum amount of work possible. Feel free to post any caps.
Edit. Also in this vein, were any releases actually done from film prints or were they all done from master digital files to NTSC? If they can put it on film they can put it on video, I don’t see why they’d use the in-between.
Okay, the only one officially confirmed by Pixar themselves where they reposition objects or characters to fit the screen was for the 4:3 versions is for Bugs Life (optional on the 2003 2-Disc DVD). On Disc 2 for the 2003 DVD, they made a bonus feature about it and compared it next to the Theatrical widescreen version. The only other movie where I’ve noticed repositioning is for Cars but only for like the opening like for the front graphic effects like when they’re showing clips of the characters alongside the race and that news scene where McQueen is missing. Otherwise, I haven’t seen any repositioning for any of the other Pixar movies.
Also, to answer your other question, all of these 4x3 releases on DVD are from the digital files, not film reels. If we were talking in general though, the only one that wasn’t from the digital files was Toy Story for the original 1996 VHS release, instead based off a film element for it’s source.
A+ answer 👍