Do you mean the part where she’s looking up into the stars and the screen is just kinda black? Yeah, it would actually work really well to just have the pathways start fading in there.
I happen to agree with you, RL. I think that since Rey no longer says that she’s “all the Jedi” we don’t need to include everybody in that sequence. I also didn’t really like having the Clone Wars version of Ahsoka in there since we have a live action version of her at both a young and old age where she doesn’t sound like that.
There are enough voices to work with - Anakin, Yoda, Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan (both young and old versions), Luke, and Leia. The only trouble is that I already know Yoda was not an easy one to voice clone, but I’ve never personally given him a try. We could put Rosario Dawson Ahsoka in there since she’s already been in contact with Luke before but we just don’t know what her fate is.
Unless somebody wants to sift through all Star Wars media to find relevant lines from Jedi that could be traveling from the past into the present via the WBW.
The novelization implies that the World Between Worlds was somehow involved in the fact that Jedi who hadn’t technically learned how to transcend where able to speak in the finale. A lazy answer, if you ask me, but technically it works.
I believe the novelization also points out that it is actually Leia who encouraged Rey to reach out to past Jedi, since it was something Luke taught her. The Jedi texts weren’t involved because this was an ability discovered by Qui-Gon, and not the Jedi themselves. You point this out with the progression you listed. Yes, Luke could have written about it in the texts but at that point it muddies things since the impression is that the Wayfinders were in the original texts and Luke merely expanded upon or translated what was already written there.
In other words, having a written record of this ability might make things too complicated to follow.
I believe they are one in the same, no?
The first thing that comes to mind is in TROS - we need to see Kylo being called further into the forest on Mustafar, away from the battlefield, and encountering the obelisk that holds the Wayfinder.
I don’t know if that’s quite cinema quality, but it’s far better than I was expecting it to be!
Agreed. I think you’ve got a really good idea here, but we might need to wait another year or so in order for the technology to be seamless.
Most people do agree that the reasoning behind why they’re called the “Resistance” could have been better explained seeing as how the New Republic is supposed to be the dominant power at this time. I think your version probably does the most we can in as few words as possible. The politics behind it (half the Senate not taking the threat seriously or wanting to avoid war) we can probably leave to other content to explain. It’s pretty clear Dave Filoni was headed in that direction with Ahsoka’s first season.
We’re simply making it so that they’re known as the “Resistance” because they operate solely outside of New Republic borders, and their big secret is that they’re funded by the Senate.
The guy also made a video on his channel to speed up the Episode IV duel, kinda like Adywan. Although I’m not sure who does that specific duel better.
I’m kinda weird in that I’d want to see the duel I linked above in a purely extended version of ROTS, with no other changes besides that duel and deleted scenes. I may reach out to this guy and see if he is willing to share the source files. Although something tells me he mixed the audio in stereo since he was always intending to upload it to YouTube, so it might be a no-go for most edits.
I’m not sure where else to post this. Has anybody seen this excellent video of the Palpatine/Mace duel?
https://youtu.be/YC8VRvDNw1k?si=K24jw4HL_yBILYNS
I think the only rough spot is around 2:33 with their spinning moves, but I can’t believe how much better the duel flows by just being sped up a bit. The CGI backflip doesn’t really feel out of place anymore.
If I recall correctly, Hal usually doesn’t mind his threads serving as idea boards, either.
- Removed the “this is a first for me” in the prison. Now he just doesn’t say anything. FWIW I guess Gilroy has commented on this, and he said “Oh, yeah, Cassian’s just lying to them, he just met these guys, why would he tell them anything about his personal life?” Which I guess makes sense. I’m not 100% that this works, but it’s fast enough and Chirrut is sort of self-satisfied enough that I think it slides by
I think we should use an AI line here, personally. I liked GAT’s idea of “It’s all the same to me.”
That’s super impressive! It looks fantastic.
What if… Instead of destroying the Endor shield generator the Rebels redirected the shield to protect the moon from debris. Everyone looking up and seeing the station exploding could be a briefly tense moment as they wait to see if the recalibrated shield works. The big celebration could be seeing the debris bounce off the shield knowing the people below were safe.
This would explain why a moon like Kef Bir would get the majority of the Death Star debris instead of the moon right below it.
The current workaround for this ridiculousness was Ascendant just turning Kef Bir into a different part of Endor. But if I worked at Lucasfilm I would have to make the retcon you mention here to make sense of things in theatrical TROS.
Oh, I didn’t know that about him. I guess I figured everyone around here were obsessed with all the intricate details like Adywan lol
Okay, sounds good!
He’s voiced that he wants to be done with the Prequels.
And this is precisely why I was pushing for last minute changes he could sneak in there. Imagine in a year or two from now, random newbies to the forum will post on this thread saying “why is this continuity error present in your edit” or “why isn’t this deleted scene that everyone likes in your edit”. My goal was to avoid that headache preemptively, since this is the last time he will be touching them.
Don’t get me wrong, I am very grateful for these alternative versions. Perhaps I should have been clearer about that. I’m sorry, Hal. But I think you’re misunderstanding the motive I had for pushing these things, G&G.
It wouldn’t be a problem aside from the fact that it would cut his robe in two. In real life, the physical lightsaber prop’s blade got all caught in Hayden’s robe. He even notices this and pulls it off the ignited blade in the shot. Who knows why they went ahead and applied the VFX to it anyways. Probably has something to do with the droid factory being a last minute addition to the film and they didn’t have any other shot options.
This being harder to solve is exactly what I was afraid of since I probably can’t fix it myself.
Oh, I don’t think you understood what I meant about the droid factory sequence. I’m not suggesting that you follow Joy’s editing sequence at all, but that you cut away from Anakin’s lightsaber getting caught on his cloak for 2 seconds. It’s a really small trim, shouldn’t take much effort at all.
That’s a really interesting thought process, Thrawn. It’s probably more realistic from a psychological perspective. Anakin blames only himself for losing his mother and vows to do better, and then comes along Palpatine who tells him that the Jedi don’t trust him and have been holding him back all along. It’s much easier to latch onto an outlandish idea like that if it absolves you of any guilt. Anakin coming up with that explanation on his own is harder to believe from an audience perspective since he’d be deluding himself.
I do wonder if this means that Hal should re-delete that portion of Anakin complaining about Obi to Padme earlier on, if we were to go with this approach.
I think it works in theory, but in practice the transition right into Anakin’s face like that is a bit off putting, as well as the brevity of their conversation. I’d have to prefer GAT’s version, if it were spruced up, personally.
If nothing else, I’ll agree that the scene does help in furthering their relationship together since Padme otherwise gives Anakin no sign of empathy or comfort on-screen. It does help us buy into the two of them falling in love.
See, the thing is that Anakin says basically the exact same thing at his mother’s grave; that he wasn’t strong enough to save her but he won’t let it happen again. Watching the edit recently I realized how redundant that scene is, minus the part about fixing things being so much simpler.
Hal - I’ve got a few pieces of feedback before you re-render the 1080p large version to fix those issues. It seems like a couple things slipped through the cracks that weren’t on your changelog:
That was about it! Thanks for making this for us.
I understand that perspective much more, s88. I think I know the answer why. Most people at this stage of the fan editing community prefer to see something that could have theoretically released in theaters without anybody being the wiser. In other words, the changes made shouldn’t distract or stick out. Hal9000 has spoiled us like this lol.
When you remove Palpatine, you lose your third act. Then the movie is no longer functioning as a movie. You also lose out on a huge chunk of the main character’s arc.
In order to replace these things in a smooth way, we’d need a whole team of professional VFX artists, editors, a Hollywood budget, and access to all of the actors. The only way any of this is feasible for a (relatively) small community like ours is with extremely advanced AI. So I’d come back here in like 20-30 years. If you still don’t see something like you’re wanting at that point, then I’d understand your frustrations, but I think your expectations of us are set a little too high haha.
It’s an interesting situation because we actually know what the alternative to TROS was with Duel of the Fates. And, yikes, that would have been super duper bad imo. Besides the arc for Finn and a couple cool moments like the Vader duel, I prefer what we got 100%.
The fact of the matter is that TLJ didn’t leave us with a lot of places to go. Kylo Ren is not intimidating as a lead villain, but is an awesome character study nonetheless. The only alternative I can think of is that Snoke resurrects himself and reveals himself as Darth Plagueis, claiming responsibility for the creation of the Skywalker family and Rey herself. But as amobex pointed out, there is not enough material for such a thing to be created in a mere fan edit.
Plus, at the end of the day, I’m starting to care more about larger continuity and adhering to canon regarding fan editing. I think it’s more fun to take an existing storyline and trying to improve it in more subtle/clever ways than just scrapping it all and starting from scratch.