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#1647038
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Help: looking for... The Great Mouse Detective (1986) - full original uncut version
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DarthSiegelus said:

I’m guessing that you’re looking for a presentation that includes the 1985 version of the Walt Disney Pictures logo. All that’s needed is to splice that version of the logo into the opening and closing of the most recent release of the film. Unlike most previous releases, the most recent one looks like it was transferred from the original camera negatives, with the only exception being the Walt Disney Pictures logo, which looks like the one from about 1994. At least the audio has also been fixed. This version, which is available on DVD and Blu-Ray is the closest thing to the original release from 1986.

There is good news . The full 35mm film scan is finally found and available online.

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#1645764
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Oliver and Company 1988 16mm Scan and Digitization project
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Good evening everyone. Recently one of the rare film reels of an underrated animated feature from 1988 by Walt Disney Feature Animation, Oliver & Company is now on eBay. Officially, the film on VHS, DVD, Bluray and Disney+ uses the 1996 rerelease master instead of the original 35mm release. It is unknown why the original 1988 master was not used today.

Probably the higher quality 35mm print remains obscure to this day as only a few copies remain outside of the U.S… For now, the 16mm version is available. For this potential scanning and digitization project. I am making a thread as an open collaborative project to plan a budget in order for the reel to be scanned in full and digitized in mp4 digital video.

Oliver & Company 16mm :$181.59 USD
https://www.ebay.com/itm/226733778129

Plustek 35mm Film & Slide Scanner 8200i SE , 7200 DPI scan resolution 48-bit :$329.00 USD

Vintage Dukane 35mm Film Strip Projector Model 28A33 :$32.95

Pegasus 3 Series R6 36TB Raid Promise Technology Hard Drive Thunderbolt 3 : $1,999.99

For now I have PayPal for donations. If you want me to use other sources like gofundme, patreon or other sources for donation for this project, let me know in the comments. I’d believe this will be a fun project to perform. If for any reason I could not do this project myself, you are welcome to help with the film scanning and digitization.

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#1631719
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Cinderella (1950) 35mm Preservation opportunity! (a WIP)
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RU.08 said:

We have the opportunity to borrow and scan a Cinderella IB Technicolor print in the US. The cost of scanning this is $370. Total scanning costs are about $600. I’m sure I don’t have to tell you guys that’s a bargain, we don’t have to purchase, rent, or even ship the print.

And, the print is in EXCELLENT CONDITION. Probably better condition than my print. And, unlike mine, it can be scanned as soon as NEXT WEEK!

As some of you know I have a print as well and it can be scanned in the future. But this is a limited opportunity to get a print that’s in top condition scanned, and that may end up making scanning mine (which will cost more) unnecessary.

And more great news, after this is scanned we can rent Lady and the Tramp from the same source for scanning. And after that is scanned we can rent Sleeping Beauty too. And more!

Begin your pledges/donations, please!

Current list of generous donors:

  • slumberdore
  • Anonymous
  • pleasehello
  • ahughes03
  • Soupdrinker0
  • titanic
  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous
  • hombredesilla
  • Warstorck
  • FrankB
  • freedomland
  • MWilson

Donations so far: $550 / 600

An exclusive early release will be made available to donors, hopefully followed by a wider “myspleen” release at some point later this year/early next year.

Short test scan done on the first couple of minutes of Reel 1:

It’s heavily compressed, but hopefully shows the condition the print is in. Remember that heads and tails of reels are where most of the wear usually is.

Screenshots:












Cinderella is a two-phase project. Only donors will be given access to the phase 1 release.

Phase 1:

  • The borrowed print will be scanned.
  • Early access release will be made available exclusively to donors.

Phase 2:

  • My print will be scanned.
  • Wider release on Myspleen.

I’d like to be a donor for this project in phase one and two. It would be a great opportunity to check the amazing quality of the scan.

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#1631716
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Cinderella (1950) & Pinocchio (1940) 35mm Preservation opportunity (a WIP)
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RU.08 said:

Hi guys! As many of you know I borrowed and scanned an IB Tech Cinderella print last year (here). I have now moved to phase 2 of that project (with a release of the borrowed print forthcoming to all donors within a few weeks). I have sent my print (also IB Tech) to be scanned, and it is to be done professionally at full 4K triple-flashed. I have so far a handful of sample frames, here’s one (full 4K):

I also have another project. Brace yourselves. Pinocchio - 1940 from two IB Tech prints. One is complete in very good condition, the other is dying from VS and only some reels can be scanned.

I’m already very overdue on one payment of ~$220 and I feel really bad about it so any help would be very much appreciated. All donors will receive early previews to all scanned reels. You will also get the early full quality exclusive release of Cinderella from “Print 1” (also a very good print I must say) that I plan to have ready by the end of this month.

Here is Reel 1 of Cinderella from the “borrowed print”. This is not full quality, just a preview encode:

https://mega.nz/#!Mqhl2JhT!uKe-SIIxTzv_e_7WNBXvq8GFlIowmK6t4B0nODC8DTM

Funding target: $1800

Donors:

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous
  • kchrules
  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

Current total: $290

Good evening sir. How goes the project so far? I would love to help donate or fund the remainder of the project. I’d be excited when the project is finished.

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#1629416
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Walt Disney Classics - 4K (donations sought) (several WIPs)
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Leor777 said:

CourtlyHades296 said:

To celebrate Snow White’s 80th anniversary, this massive community-wide effort will restore the following titles for 4K Blu-Ray, preserving all of the detail in the original cels. All of these titles have the 1989 Walt Disney Classics logo before them.

–The list–

  1. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
  2. Pinocchio
  3. Fantasia
  4. Dumbo
  5. Bambi
  6. Cinderella
  7. Alice in Wonderland
  8. Peter Pan
  9. Lady and the Tramp
  10. Sleeping Beauty
  11. One Hundred and One Dalmatians
  12. The Sword in the Stone
  13. Mary Poppins
  14. The Jungle Book
  15. The Aristocats
    
  16. Bedknobs and Broomsticks
  17. Robin Hood
  18. The Rescuers
  19. Pete's Dragon
    
  20. The Fox and the Hound
  21. The Great Mouse Detective
  22. The Little Mermaid
  23. The Rescuers Down Under
  24. Beauty and the Beast
  25. Aladdin
  26. The Lion King
  27. Pocahontas
    
  28. The Hunchback of Notre Dame
  29. Hercules
    

I Would pay to get Hercules , Hunchback and Pocahontas - in 35mm !

me too

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#1629415
Topic
Help: looking for... The Great Mouse Detective (1986) - full original uncut version
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potatowes said:

I didn’t know this existed but I would like to support any project that may come along in the future. I remember my little sister watching this movie non stop and I would love to see a proper preservation

I totally agree, would it be great if we could do a crowdfund or a project so i can donate you the money if you have the 35mm copy with you? This movie is special because its underrated and one of the animation’s best family films. I can see why only few people own a physical 35mm filmstrip copy.

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#1629041
Topic
Walt Disney Classics - 4K (donations sought) (several WIPs)
Time

CourtlyHades296 said:

To celebrate Snow White’s 80th anniversary, this massive community-wide effort will restore the following titles for 4K Blu-Ray, preserving all of the detail in the original cels. All of these titles have the 1989 Walt Disney Classics logo before them.

–The list–

  1. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
  2. Pinocchio
  3. Fantasia
  4. Dumbo
  5. Bambi
  6. Cinderella
  7. Alice in Wonderland
  8. Peter Pan
  9. Lady and the Tramp
  10. Sleeping Beauty
  11. One Hundred and One Dalmatians
  12. The Sword in the Stone
  13. Mary Poppins
  14. The Jungle Book
  15. The Aristocats
    
  16. Bedknobs and Broomsticks
  17. Robin Hood
  18. The Rescuers
  19. Pete's Dragon
    
  20. The Fox and the Hound
  21. The Great Mouse Detective
  22. The Little Mermaid
  23. The Rescuers Down Under
  24. Beauty and the Beast
  25. Aladdin
  26. The Lion King
  27. Pocahontas
    
  28. The Hunchback of Notre Dame
  29. Hercules
    

I’d like to get great mouse detective and Oliver and company 35mm please when the funding is available

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#1628899
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Beauty and the Beast - 35mm "Help Needed" (a WIP)
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neogeomaster said:

phoenixobia said:

neogeomaster said:

Do you have the uncompressed lossless file for this?

I used the Italian Preview 35mm scan of Beauty and the Beast. I cut all the bad parts, for example end of part 1. I stabilized the picture, I crop and I change 4 pixels… I modify the speed at 23.976 (Colorspace YUV). I didn’t use AI because I prefer the oldschool way and I put the English Laserdisc PCM audio (48KHZ, 16 bits and 1536kb/s), I’m not a fan of bad AAC… I uploaded all the songs =>

Belle Part 1

https://youtu.be/oh27HkzamRw

Belle Part 2

https://youtu.be/Pf7B7B9rCcI

Belle (Reprise)

https://youtu.be/Y9WiHiXkaCw

Be Our Guest

https://youtu.be/kke9AsnA9is

Beauty and the Beast

https://youtu.be/5NZddD5TeDU

Gaston

https://youtu.be/dtI2dOAfNzg

Something There

https://youtu.be/N4qdtkzH1d8

The Mob Song

https://youtu.be/mmlrTK0mt3k

I did the French version (Laserdisc with the First French Dub from 1992 but only for 3 songs and not the entire movie). But I upload the raw version without upscale in 4K60. You will see with the native resolution

Belle (Part 1)

https://youtu.be/jsVfp36hDRw

C’est la fête (Be Our Guest)

https://youtu.be/VI5DugVxmxU

Histoire éternelle (Beauty and the Beast)

https://youtu.be/eDKQfR6LPrc

I didn’t even upscale. I touch nothing about the resolution, thats why the file is 1808 pixels (Width) and 1024 pixels (Height). After, it is easy to upscale in FULL HD or 4K but it will be heavier for nothing. Once I had The Lion King, that I crop and it was only 8GB and when I wanted to upscale in 1080p without lossing quality, it was 20GB…

The original preview was in 1850/1050 in 24FPS. My work is over since the 24th August 2024. But it was in 6 parts and I was lazzy to do only 1 part but I did that in 2 minutes.

Since 1 week I saw a fake The Great Mouse Detective 35mm Italian Scan… And a fake Disney logo as well… https://youtu.be/xv-XZAk6g6k

Anyone especially Italians that faked it , created a hoax online don’t deserve to be in a free society and burn in hell. Truth will win.

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#1628891
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Info: Recommended Editions of Disney Animated (and Partially Animated) Features
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ww12345 said:

Also, here are some Disney films I found on a 35mm forum I frequent - let me know if anyone is interested in these and I’ll see if they are still available.

<span style=“font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”>Oliver and Company - LPP </span><span style=“color: #ff0000; font-weight: bold; font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”>Disney</span><span style=“font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”> - $299.00</span>

<span style=“font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”>
</span>

<span style=“font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”>MARY POPPINS $300 50% COLOR</span>
<span style=“font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”>PETER PAN $750 COLOR</span>
<span style=“font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”>ROBIN HOOD $250 50% COLOR</span>

<span style=“font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”>
</span>

<span style=“font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”>MENACE ON THE MOUNTAIN Adventure Mitch Vogel, Richard Anderson 1970 £150.00 Walt </span><span style=“color: #ff0000; font-weight: bold; font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”>Disney</span><span style=“font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”> IB Technicolor</span>

<span style=“font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”>
</span>

Disney’s Hook (1991)<span style=“font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”> - £350</span>
<span style=“font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”>Haven’t had the opportunity to view the movie, but still offering the refund option.</span>

<span style=“font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”>SNOW WHITE AND THE 7 DWARFS - LPP COLOR FULL FRAME - BEAUTIFUL ORIGINAL OF THE <span style=“color: #ff0000; font-weight: bold;”>DISNEY</span> CLASSIC FILM. - $599.00 NOW ON HOLD!!!

THE PRINCE AND THE PAULPER - LPP COLOR MYLAR - MICKEY MOUSE - DONALD DUCK - PLUTO - GOOFY - ALL STAR <span style=“color: #ff0000; font-weight: bold;”>DISNEY</span> CAST - 1/2 HOUR <span style=“color: #ff0000; font-weight: bold;”>DISNEY</span> CARTOON FEATURETTE - EXTREMELY HARD TO FIND - $800.00

ROBINHOOD - I.B. TECHNICOLOR <span style=“color: #ff0000; font-weight: bold;”>DISNEY</span> CLASSIC ANIMATED FEATURE - BRIAN BEDFORD , PHIL HARRIS - $499.99</span>

<span style=“font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”>THE RESCUERS - LPP COLOR FULL FRAME - BEAUTIFUL CLASSIC - $499.00</span>

<span style=“font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”>BAMBI - LPP ORIGINAL PRINT WITH SOME WEAR - $199.00</span>

<span style=“font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”>CINDERELLA - IB TECHNICOLOR ORIGINAL PRINT NICE CONDITION - $599.00</span>

<span style=“font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”>THE GREAT MOUSE DECTECTIVE - LPP COLOR MYLAR </span><span style=“color: #ff0000; font-weight: bold; font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”>DISNEY</span><span style=“font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”> - $399.00</span>

<span style=“font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”>LADY AND THE TRAMP -RARE I.B. TECH CINEMASCOPE </span><span style=“color: #ff0000; font-weight: bold; font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”>DISNEY</span><span style=“font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”> - $699.00</span>

<span style=“font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”>SLEEPING BEAUTY - RARE I.B. TECH CINEMASCOPE </span><span style=“color: #ff0000; font-weight: bold; font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”>DISNEY</span><span style=“font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”> - $699.00</span>

<span style=“font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”>THE JUNGLE BOOK - RARE I.B. TECH </span><span style=“color: #ff0000; font-weight: bold; font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”>DISNEY</span><span style=“font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”> CLASSIC - $699.00 </span>

<span style=“font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”>101 DALMATIONS - I.B. TECH </span><span style=“color: #ff0000; font-weight: bold; font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”>DISNEY</span><span style=“font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”> ANIMATED CLASSIC - $699.00</span>

<span style=“font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”>THE SWORD IN THE STONE - I.B. TECH </span><span style=“color: #ff0000; font-weight: bold; font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”>DISNEY</span><span style=“font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”> CLASSIC - $299.00</span>

<span style=“font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”>ALICE IN WONDERLAND - I.B. TECH </span><span style=“color: #ff0000; font-weight: bold; font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”>DISNEY</span><span style=“font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”> CLASSIC - $499.00</span>

<span style=“font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”>ARISTOCATS - I.B. TECH </span><span style=“color: #ff0000; font-weight: bold; font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”>DISNEY</span><span style=“font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”> ANIMATED CLASSIC - $299.00</span>

<span style=“font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”>PETER PAN - LPP COLOR ANIMATED </span><span style=“color: #ff0000; font-weight: bold; font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”>DISNEY</span><span style=“font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”> CLASSIC - $399.00</span>

<span style=“font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”>SO DEAR TO MY HEART - I.B. TECH </span><span style=“color: #ff0000; font-weight: bold; font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”>DISNEY</span><span style=“font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”> CLASSIC - $499.00</span>

<span style=“font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”>THE HORSE IN THE GRAY FLANNEL SUIT - I.B. TECH </span><span style=“color: #ff0000; font-weight: bold; font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”>DISNEY</span><span style=“font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”> CLASSIC - $299.00</span>

<span style=“font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;”>I’m fairly sure that the last set of prints I listed is the guy who just sold that whole set, but who knows if it is or if he has listed everything he had. Also, maybe I’ll see if I could get the emails of some of the people he sold to, if he is the same guy…</span>

id like the 35mm scan rips of great mouse detective and oliver and company plz

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#1628889
Topic
Info: Recommended Editions of Disney Animated (and Partially Animated) Features
Time

nesboy43 said:

Have the following LDs:

Alice In Wonderland 1986 CLV
Aladdin CAV
Aladdin King of Thieves
Aladdin Return of Jafar
Bambi 1990 CLV
Beauty and the Beast CAV
Beauty and the Beast Workprint CAV
Cinderella CAV Boxset
Dumbo 1982 CLV
Hercules CAV
Lady and the Tramp THX CAV
Oliver and Company CAV
Peter Pan 1990 CAV
Pinocchio 1987 CAV
Robinhood 1990 CLV
Sleeping Beauty 1997 CAV
Snow White 1994 CAV
Great Mouse Detective CAV
The Huncback CAV Box Set
The Junglebook 30th Anniversary CLV
The Many Adventures of Winnie The Pooh 1996 CLV
The Rescuers CAV
The Rescuers Down Under CAV
Sword in the Stone Masterpiece CAV
The Three Caballeros Masterpiece CAV
Toy Story Widescreen CLV

Some thoughts:

-The Sleeping Beauty and Bambi Blurays look better than the LDs
-The CAPs films look so much different on LD than Bluray in terms of colors and shading, I much prefer the LD look
-The Junglebook and Sword In The Stone are some of the worst looking Blurays, the LDs are quite a revelation
-Mary Poppins (Archive Collection) LD looks a million times better than the Bluray, it’s amazing how badly botched that Bluray is (the Bluray is dark and overly contrasty at the same time, and the scenes that use projection look way more fake due to this)
-1987 Pinocchio CAV is really bad looking and washed out, will have to capture the CAV Box Set instead

id like the dl web laserdisc and 35mm rips of great mouse detective and oliver and company plz

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#1628888
Topic
Info: Recommended Editions of Disney Animated (and Partially Animated) Features
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TServo2049 said:

Doctor M, your hypothesis about “thinned” lines not being some kind of digital artifact is interesting.

I can’t find the site/forum, but I remember someone complaining that there was DVNR artifacting in the Vista Series DVD of Roger Rabbit. The lines indeed look thin and wispy, but the Blu-ray and the French HDTV broadcast seem to have the same line characteristics.

I’m betting that RR had hair-thin inking to begin with, so the characters would better blend into the live action - the cels I’ve seen seem to bear that out.

Also, does anybody else think the “Mystery in the Mist” transfer of The Great Mouse Detective looks a tad TOO warm? I won’t argue that it’s a better transfer than the old DVD, but there’s an original 35mm print from 1986 on eBay, and the blues actually look blue. (Or is that just due to the white balance on the digital camera capturing the projection?)

great mouse detective 35mm original 1986 scan plz?

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#1628886
Topic
Info: Recommended Editions of Disney Animated (and Partially Animated) Features
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TServo2049 said:

Doctor M said:

Sure, you’d expect some cropping.  But my point is that the anamorphic and wide releases of Jungle Book actually have more left/right information than the 4x3 releases.

If the 4x3 version is all the animation fit to be seen, the widescreen should ONLY be less on the top and bottom.

Not necessarily. If you are framing at a particular AR, if you show more on the sides then you have to show more on the top and bottom. So a 4x3 transfer were to show as much on the sides as the widescreen ones, it would necessitate opening up the image that much more on the top and bottom, potentially revealing stuff we weren’t intended to see (refer to the misframed Fox and the Hound Blu-ray screenshot, and the Great Mouse Detective framegrab from that recent 35mm auction).

And remember that in general, one framing has to be chosen for the entire transfer, or at least each reel, so if they are paying attention to the cel cutoffs and such, they would pick a framing that hides them in every shot. If one shot has an abrupt cel end at a certain frame height, the entire transfer has to be framed to cut off before that height, and so an equal amount of picture has to be sacrificed on the sides.

On the other hand, since a widescreen transfer mattes more on the top and bottom, they can afford to show more on the sides without revealing frame cheats on the top or bottom. This is all ideal circumstances, of course - if the technicians frame it too tight, we can get something like the 2002 Great Mouse Detective transfer where its 1.66:1 ratio cropped more on the sides than it opened up on the top and bottom.

We’ve seen plenty of transfers which are the “correct” AR but still a bit too tight (the Blu-ray of Alien, every transfer of Jurassic Park in the last 10+ years). And we’ve seen ones which are not properly centered as well (that Fox and the Hound Blu-ray, the original pressings of the Back to the Future Part II DVD where the entire transfer was framed too high). Transfer framing seems to be more of an art than a science.

A transfer showing all possible information without ever showing any of the garbage on the edges in any scene wouldn’t necessarily be 4x3. It would probably end up being some oddball ratio (since there is usually more “garbage” on the top and bottom than on the sides). And if each individual shot were framed to show the maximum information without revealing flaws and cheats, the ratio would likely change from scene to scene.

great mouse detective 35mm original 1986 scan plz?

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#1628885
Topic
Info &amp; Discussion: Fullscreen Laserdisc / DVD Preservations
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TServo2049 said:

As you can see, the whole frame is used. I’m willing to bet that the cels not going all the way to the edge of the frame is why the full screen transfers were tighter. This is why a lot of 1.37 animated films aren’t completely open-matte.

My point was that An American Tail is open-matte, but that the widescreen has almost no extra picture on the sides, and I don’t know why.

great mouse detective 35mm original 1986 scan plz?