Perhaps it’s how he burned it then. A lot of people dont know that you can use these (bluray compliant) mkv files without reencoding. He may have used some software that transcoded it poorly
Strange. At first I was concerned about an entire frame slipping in somewhere, as these kinds of things can happen in the editing process. I have a decent process for checking for those faults, though. This looks much more like an encoding or playback error.
This kind of encoding error may have happened on my end, but it seems a little less likely to me. Can you give the details of the file? Format, exact size, checksum ideally? I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s something someone transcoded into a smaller file to throw on a public tracker, but perhaps not!
Yeah, I would say a few of them feel a touch too warm.
With the usual caveat that I have no idea how they’re ‘supposed’ to look.
Thanks! I agree that it will probably always be judgement calls for more minor things. But anything, for instance, that might clearly give a shot away as CGI and not a 1979 effect might be nice to keep included to represent the DC.
Thanks for your efforts on this.
Out of curiosity, would you have any interest in making an alternative version that takes a different approach to this part:
However, I mostly used the original versions of the shots that were altered for the director’s cut to preserve HD quality (for this reason I’m calling it a fan edit).
I’d be interested in a version that uses upscaling, when needed, to keep shots with new CGI accurate to the DC, despite there being an equivalent from the original. Even at the obvious expense of quality. If not, that’s perfectly reasonable as well!
I am new to the world of Star Wars. I was obviously aware of the franchise and of the controversy sorrounding the SE changes. I started directly with Harmy’s Despecialized Editions and the movies are brilliant! Now, my question: have all the changes made by George been eliminated? Because I read there are new versions coming out made by Harmy and I wonder why? Or is he using other elements that need no upscaling? Will the upcoming Version differ in term of content or “only” by the elements used for the reconstruction (and delivering the movies in 1080p)? Hope I can find help.
Thank you all and especially to Harmy!
As you guessed, it’s about improving the quality of the sources.
There are some very, very minor changes that are found from time to time, and those will be fixed. Not the kind of thing anyone would normally notice. You’ll see some recent chatter in a few threads here about a shot during the Battle of Yavin that people spotted was bright/over exposed in the original, and not in any release or restoration after that (until now).
Maybe you should reread my posts and calm down keyboard warrior.
Really? Don’t pretend to take the high road (insert high ground joke here) if you’re going to make prickish comments like that. I think it’s you that should reread my post if you have a problem with it. I was contributing to the discussion without silly personal attacks, at least.
at no point did I suggest that TESB and ROTJ DeEds were redundant.
If you think that 4k77 replaces the need for despecialized, my point is that moving on to Jedi doesn’t make sense because 4k83 will be out first, most likely. It would still be wasted time, by that logic. This was based on your suggestion that Star Wars Despecialized is redundant (an opinion you’re welcome to have, but I assumed it might follow to the other films).
I’m not trying to start a 4k77 vs DeEd debate
And to your point about dirt/scratches etc, I would argue that these flaws outweigh the extreme sharpening and poor DNR on the bluray that removed a lot of detail.
I’m not either. And I’d rather watch 4K77 than Despecialized. But your point that different aspects may outweigh others is exactly my point. These are different projects with different benefits, and it’s better to have options than to not.
I have to politely disagree with you there.
The bluray doesn’t contain any more detail than 4k77 with the exception of the area of the image that was cropped. The bluray is heavily sharpened which gives the illusion of additional detail but not any actual additional picture information.
I’ve sharpened the 4k77 footage myself as an experiment and it can be sharpened to match the bluray exactly.
So my question stands.
It’s still not a total replacement for despecialized. There are still tens of thousands of scratches and pieces of dirt, despite the amazing job done on 4k77 (and that will still be true of the DNR version). There are still many distracting light flickers, mostly in the bottom right corner.
In any case, these are different projects with different goals. Restoring a release print versus something along the lines of what the blu ray should have been. And I don’t believe what you say about some amount of sharpening making 4k77 perfectly match the Blu-ray, anyway.
I dont know why you would even suggest that he work on ESB or Rotj if you believe these types of projects are so redundant. 4k83 will probably be out before Harmy’s next project. Just enjoy the tn1 work if you prefer it.
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Yeah, looks like it was just the workprint.
Perhaps there was an exception for Jedi after much time passed where it was the only one without an MKV release? I didn’t think so, though.
There was also the very short lived Jedi 2.0 (beta) and if I’m not mistaken, 2.5 was out by late 2015.
The actual 1.0 releases were avchd. I’m sure many people made mkvs, which is easily done without reencoding. That’s how I watched them. But if you’re preserving the avchd, you’re preserving the originally released audio and video streams. You can remux them if you want, but probably don’t need to download someone else’s file and worry about if they re encoded anything.
Looks stellar as always, Dre.
I hope this won’t be taken the wrong way, but do you think once a reel is done or the film is done, you will probably be fine tuning shots anyway for consistency? I think these early shots have been 99% there for a very long time, and you’re fighting the good fight for utter perfection. But if you’re likely to revisit them and work on that last 1% in the end anyway, would it make sense to do the preliminary grades of other portions before this very-ultra-fine-tuning continues?
Not complaining, of course. 😃 I think of the dozens of samples you’ve shared in the last month or two, only one or two settings might have been slightly less than suitable to proceed with. I’d happily watch any of them, and perhaps I’m just a bit too eager to see what you do with portions of the film I’m not sure I’ve seen you work on much.
(could have posted this in the 4k77 thread as well -they’re both looking great.)
I’m curious to give it a look since I do have the original theatrical cuts of the original trilogy (the Despecialized Editions) and Episode I. In fact, I do wish somebody would do an HD version of the theatrical release. And I’ll gladly try to do one for Episode III (if somebody can provide the sources).
I believe Schorman has released one for III (a relatively simpler project).
The footage needed for AoTC isn’t available in HD, or even SD, or anything better than this cam source here. Someone would need to buy and scan a print. A lot of money for a project that most of us probably only see as something that belongs on a checklist, and not something actually meaningful to us.
If the urge to watch this movie ever strikes, I’ll live with the deleted speeder. 😃
Yeah. No need for him to do it twice if much better scans are coming at some point, and there are other things that can be worked on immediately.
MPC with madVR installed.
Dr Tarkin said:
Yes, MEGA still forces 3-6 hours (depending on what you use, I believe) of downtime after every 5 GB for non-premium users. For a three hour wait for the UHD version that’s roughly 30 hours of downtime. MegaDownloader supposedly bypasses this, but I haven’t been able to get it to work.
VPN or Proxies with Jdownloader2 or MegaDownloader
Yeah. They don’t seem to be putting up too much of a fight against VPNs. You can use their official app, logged in with your non-premium account, and switch your IP every 5 GB, and it will resume download.
And NO I’m not wasting expensive BD50 and I’m not using right now. I am using BD-RE DL which is rewritable disk (if I mentioned in this message). I can erase the disk by using “Nero Smart” and reuse the disk. Works for me.
Ah, that’s good then. Mounting it is still a very fast way to check.
If not, I’d recommend just giving it a try and see how it goes. If you run into problems, ask for help with the specific problems.
Importantly - when you get your finished disc image, just mount it in your OS and see if everything works properly. Don’t waste expensive BD50s until you have it right. That’s always a good idea when you’re creating new images instead of burning something others have already tested.
I don’t really have time to describe a tutorial, but it’s very straight forward. Drag and drop your video files in order.
If they are red, on the list, the program re encodes them. If not, they’re fine as is. There are some other options, but it’s straight forward.
If I’m not mistaken, tsmuxer doesn’t work for sequential videos. It may even be mixing multiple video streams into one file. So, you’re playing through the film’s length while stuck on video track 1. You might even be able to switch to the feature’s audio.
Use MultiAVCHD. Its made for this and will convert that audio that wasn’t compatible.
Is the omnibus an all new edit or a remastering? I seem to recall there being one before. My local PBS station would run an entire story in one afternoon when I was a kid.
And thanks for the heads up! Hopefully this won’t be scuttled for a technical snafu like the screening of the animated Power Of The Daleks I attended.
I didn’t make it to a screening, but I heard a number of them did have technical issues.
Anyway, the US set is shipping, now about $49. The UK one got delayed until July 2, apparently due to packaging manufacturing.
Although Poita’s new print is surely a ways off from being scanned and available, I think it would make sense to hold back a bit on this one. Especially with 4k77 available as a source to improve SW.
Pay particular attention to where the lightsaber blade meets the handle. The rotoscoping has been changed. I used Dr. Dre’s tool to colour-match the scan to the PAL broadcast, all screenshots are taken in AvsPmod (resize to 1080p) and are frame-accurate.
This was a previously unknown change. Everyone knew that the 1997 SE has done some new rotoscoping - but not that there two different versions done in 1997 - one that appears on home video and broadcast, and one that appears on the release prints. I could post some more screenshots if poita gives the OK, but these screenshots show the difference in rotoscoping quite clearly as it is. This is very exciting and shows there is still more to discover about the 1997 SE that has remained unknown to this date that poita’s scans are going to help uncover!!
Could you highlight the exact spot you’re comparing? Maybe I’m just not seeing it, but I’m not entirely convinced of a rotoscoping change.
It brings to mind the look of the first good quality film scans we got of the OOT version of this shot, and how they looked compared to the hazily defined blade in the GOUT. That almost looked like alternate rotoscoping as well (more so, even).
But again, I may just not be seeing what you mean to point out.
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