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#1242992
Topic
Doctor Who
Time

Handman said:

Do you mean Matt Smith’s first Christmas special?

No, one of the later ones. It might have even been his regeneration show… why that was the Christmas Special, I do not know. Series 5 was definitely the best of his era, but it’s impossible to approach the later seasons (and any of Capaldi’s) without being much more familiar with the show. It’s a lot like the original show in the 80s. And… well, both eras saw a huge drop in viewership.

Ah, fair enough. I agree that Time of the Doctor (while I actually love the episode, unlike most people), is possibly one of the very worst episodes to start on.

That said, I think the beginning of Moffat’s run, as some have suggested, is indeed a great place to start.

It depends on the person you’re recommending the show to and their tastes. Though we are only 13 years out, people are already seeing series one as rather dated. There are some parts of the RTD era that newcomers (perhaps more so for Americans) struggle with. I’ve heard at least a couple people doubt they should keep watching once they get to the ‘farting aliens’. Again, depends on the person. People who like British drama from that time period might enjoy the era more.

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#1242538
Topic
Doctor Who
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Handman said:

I wouldn’t recommend starting with Matt Smith or Capaldi. Moffat tried really hard to appeal to long-time fans that most episodes are completely incomprehensible to anyone unfamiliar with the show. The whole extended family was over and we ended up watching that year’s Christmas Special… no one knew what the hell was going on.

I would say starting with the revived show at the beginning, with “Rose”, is your best bet. However, I strongly recommend checking out the original show at some point.

Do you mean Matt Smith’s first Christmas special? What outside knowledge was required for that one? The companions have their own backstory, but they’re basically written out of most of the episode (and all you need to know is that they’re on a honeymoon, which you’re told). It’s actually the episode that got some of my family watching the show, and I think of it as one of the most standalone ones there is.

And there would be even less chance of confusion coming off of season 5. I’m struggling to think about how season 5, itself, could be incomprehensible to a newcomer. You miss River’s first story, but she’s reintroduced. Other than that, not much attention is paid to RTD’s storylines.

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#1240124
Topic
Dealing with People Selling Fan Projects
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SilverWook said:

Does godaddy have any way to report a website? I’m sure there’s a terms of service violation in there somewhere.

copyrightclaims@godaddy.com is their official address for copyright complaints, but I’m not sure how useful it is if you’re not the copyright holder’s lawyer.

Hopefully there’s something usable here: https://supportcenter.godaddy.com/AbuseReport

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#1238846
Topic
Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 MKV IS OUT NOW
Time

Chewielewis said:

I think this is where 4K77 and Despecialized can be different.

4K77 is strictly print based, it’s what a original Technicolor print would look like projected. And I think correcting some of the color imbalances from the inconsistent Technicolor process would be acceptable. Using reel by reel correction to keep it “authentic”

Then Despecialized should be Bluray based and be what we would expect a propper o-neg based restoration to be. So shot to shot correction to correct inconsistent color timing, removing heavy print grain and adding light negative grain where applicable. Basically what the BR would look like if it was done properly.

Right. That’s a good description of the project goals. That said, they’re both in a kind of middle-zone right now!

Despecialized is now a bit dated compared to ESB and Jedi, containing some GOUT and Harmy’s older, still impressive rotoscoping. Likewise, the DNR 4K77 is something beyond the ‘as projected’ aim without attempting to be blu-ray quality. IMO, it’s not too far off from the quality of some old ‘HDTV’ restorations (probably derived from transfers made for DVD).

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#1238830
Topic
Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 MKV IS OUT NOW
Time

WishItWas1984 said:

towne32 said:

WishItWas1984 said:

Ok, so I just compared the final 4K77 DNR release with Harmy’s 2.7 and I have to say that I think a combination of certain elements of it to a Despecialized 3.0 would be perfect, but I’m inclined to lean towards 2.7 being superior for noise, color, and lighting.

While I noticed insane improvements in Tatooine shots, Death Star shots or Falcon interior shots were either drastically blown out or too green/dirty. Plus, even though it’s DNR, the backgrounds still seemed to be fuzzy and constantly moving.

Curious to know what others think. I for one am happy to not have 4K resolution if it means a drop in other aspects.

That’s kind of you to say.

As for me, having just watched the “DNR” version, I’ve got to say it’s my favorite version so far. There’s a lot that Williarob improved in it over the standard 4K77 release aside from just the grain reduction, of course. The brand new color correction looks excellent. Very much the look I was going for with 2.7, and not always quite achieving. There are a few scenes, such as the Jawa/Canyon scene, where I was probably overly ‘anti-green’, and this new release strikes a nice balance. The contrast is generally excellent, though there are likely more limitations in that department for a scanned print compared to blu-ray as source.

I think it’s got a well-balanced grain profile. For standard, non-composited shots, I think it’s just the right amount of grain remaining, and a surprising amount of detail in the print. It’s true, of course, that the composited shots are softer and grainier, but it reflects the original look of the film, and that will always be the interesting trade-off compared to newer restorations of films with digitally recomposited elements.

But, taking that into account, the “DNR” release is great for its consistent look, throughout.

The “Vader in Death Star hanger walking to the Falcon” scene is a great example of how murky and weird the “Death Star Green” coloring is in the 4K version.

I think that’s just the nature of the technicolor coloring. I’m not sure if you’re familiar with Despecialized 2.5, but Harmy attempted to put a lot of that style back into the movie. And in turn I kind of erased most of it in 2.7. 😃 I think the DNR release is a good compromise, but also probably works better as the grading can be brought out naturally from the print by adjusting the curves/levels, which isn’t the case when applying changes to a non-technicolor print.

Some of the ‘murkiness’ is also probably due to this being a composite shot, and grainier on the film print.

In any case, there will definitely be people that prefer the strictly neutral grading (I was like this, but I’m coming around 😃 ).

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#1238802
Topic
4k77 released
Time

Well, the DNR version of 4K77 is available now. Aside from the grain management (which I think is very well done), I really like the other work done for this release. Extra cleanup and patches here and there, a lot of the red light-leak flashes from later in the film dealt with, good cropping and stabilization, removed reel change markers, etc.

And, most importantly for me, really gorgeous color and contrast. Thank you, Williarob and everyone else, for the enormous effort on this. This is great.

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#1238799
Topic
Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 MKV IS OUT NOW
Time

As far as some shots being grainier in 4K77, it seems like there are some scenes, including shots without effects, where there is more generational loss in the film.

The blu-ray is better for the sake of quality, of course, going back to the camera negatives (especially for shots with no effects/compositing), but’s interesting to see anyway.

Another thing I pointed out, when the last 4K77 version was released, is how soft the shots are that would later, in 2011, become “R2’s rocks”. I’m not sure if they were heavily zoomed or out of focus or what. But it made me wonder if Lucas just added the rocks because those shots weren’t really in good shape for blu-ray.

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#1238795
Topic
Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 MKV IS OUT NOW
Time

WishItWas1984 said:

Ok, so I just compared the final 4K77 DNR release with Harmy’s 2.7 and I have to say that I think a combination of certain elements of it to a Despecialized 3.0 would be perfect, but I’m inclined to lean towards 2.7 being superior for noise, color, and lighting.

While I noticed insane improvements in Tatooine shots, Death Star shots or Falcon interior shots were either drastically blown out or too green/dirty. Plus, even though it’s DNR, the backgrounds still seemed to be fuzzy and constantly moving.

Curious to know what others think. I for one am happy to not have 4K resolution if it means a drop in other aspects.

That’s kind of you to say.

As for me, having just watched the “DNR” version, I’ve got to say it’s my favorite version so far. There’s a lot that Williarob improved in it over the standard 4K77 release aside from just the grain reduction, of course. The brand new color correction looks excellent. Very much the look I was going for with 2.7, and not always quite achieving. There are a few scenes, such as the Jawa/Canyon scene, where I was probably overly ‘anti-green’, and this new release strikes a nice balance. The contrast is generally excellent, though there are likely more limitations in that department for a scanned print compared to blu-ray as source.

I think it’s got a well-balanced grain profile. For standard, non-composited shots, I think it’s just the right amount of grain remaining, and a surprising amount of detail in the print. It’s true, of course, that the composited shots are softer and grainier, but it reflects the original look of the film, and that will always be the interesting trade-off compared to newer restorations of films with digitally recomposited elements.

But, taking that into account, the “DNR” release is great for its consistent look, throughout.

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#1237693
Topic
Harmy's Despecialized Star Wars 1977 - Color Adjustment Project for v2.7 (released)
Time

93353 said:

@towne32 Can you add hashes to the original post for verifying file-integrity, like Harmy does?


File Name: Star.Wars.Despecialized.Edition.v2.5.mkv

CRC32: 42A67CC6

MD5: E52CC005E48931EF3DF336361DD1A142

SHA-1: 6CA73976E347CD6791DC31B4FCC758F0E5AD265E

SHA-256: 31C4BA98D4A14A71B6DA13830F1C3C508CBF93C89A348D382F76070A23588D6B

I dont have the files on hand, but if people can post and confirm, I would be happy to add them.

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#1236980
Topic
Attack of the Clones 35mm found on eBay
Time

schorman13 said:

CourtlyHades296 said:

Schorman, were you the one who set the starting bid for the new auction?

No, I was not. I hadn’t noticed that until now. I guess we have a bit of competition this time.

This might seem a bit paranoid, as I’m sure it’s probably just a random film collector bidding. But, since this site does have its fair share of trolls, it might perhaps be best to keep the running total for donations private from here on?

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#1231292
Topic
4k77 - shot by shot color grading
Time

Darth Lucas said:

DrDre said:

Here’s a subset of finished reference shots from the Death Star Conference room sequence:

THANK YOU for not making this scene overly blue. I feel like I’ve been saying for years a naturalistic approach is the best way to go.

Yeah, it’s still plenty blue compared to the boring grey of many home releases. Doesn’t need to be o era the top to look great.

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#1228285
Topic
4k77 - reel by reel color grading
Time

Colson said:

towne32 said:

Nice work on this. It’s a shame so many people that comment on myspleen are such dolts.

It is shocking the difference between OT and MySpleen, considering the crossover.

There’s a big percentage of OT members that are on spleen, especially for accounts ‘of a certain age’, and we’ve probably made a huge dent in the total numbers in terms of once time use, hit and run numbers, sadly (hence the closed invites). But I think there’s always been a pretty big community there that’s way beyond OT.

Which is why many of the Star Wars posts will have comments like, “Ugh, do we really need another Star Wars upload?” when the answer is obviously Yes. 😉

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#1225850
Topic
Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 MKV IS OUT NOW
Time

Rebel1990 said:

https://share-your-photo.com/4db3792083

Strange. At first I was concerned about an entire frame slipping in somewhere, as these kinds of things can happen in the editing process. I have a decent process for checking for those faults, though. This looks much more like an encoding or playback error.

This kind of encoding error may have happened on my end, but it seems a little less likely to me. Can you give the details of the file? Format, exact size, checksum ideally? I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s something someone transcoded into a smaller file to throw on a public tracker, but perhaps not!

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#1224941
Topic
Star Trek: The Motion Picture - Director's Edition HD Recreation (V3 Now Available.)
Time

Thanks for your efforts on this.

Out of curiosity, would you have any interest in making an alternative version that takes a different approach to this part:

However, I mostly used the original versions of the shots that were altered for the director’s cut to preserve HD quality (for this reason I’m calling it a fan edit).
?

I’d be interested in a version that uses upscaling, when needed, to keep shots with new CGI accurate to the DC, despite there being an equivalent from the original. Even at the obvious expense of quality. If not, that’s perfectly reasonable as well!

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#1224305
Topic
Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 MKV IS OUT NOW
Time

Rebel1990 said:

Hello Guys,

I am new to the world of Star Wars. I was obviously aware of the franchise and of the controversy sorrounding the SE changes. I started directly with Harmy’s Despecialized Editions and the movies are brilliant! Now, my question: have all the changes made by George been eliminated? Because I read there are new versions coming out made by Harmy and I wonder why? Or is he using other elements that need no upscaling? Will the upcoming Version differ in term of content or “only” by the elements used for the reconstruction (and delivering the movies in 1080p)? Hope I can find help.
Thank you all and especially to Harmy!

As you guessed, it’s about improving the quality of the sources.

There are some very, very minor changes that are found from time to time, and those will be fixed. Not the kind of thing anyone would normally notice. You’ll see some recent chatter in a few threads here about a shot during the Battle of Yavin that people spotted was bright/over exposed in the original, and not in any release or restoration after that (until now).

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#1224209
Topic
Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 MKV IS OUT NOW
Time

Stotchy said:

Maybe you should reread my posts and calm down keyboard warrior.

Really? Don’t pretend to take the high road (insert high ground joke here) if you’re going to make prickish comments like that. I think it’s you that should reread my post if you have a problem with it. I was contributing to the discussion without silly personal attacks, at least.

at no point did I suggest that TESB and ROTJ DeEds were redundant.

If you think that 4k77 replaces the need for despecialized, my point is that moving on to Jedi doesn’t make sense because 4k83 will be out first, most likely. It would still be wasted time, by that logic. This was based on your suggestion that Star Wars Despecialized is redundant (an opinion you’re welcome to have, but I assumed it might follow to the other films).

I’m not trying to start a 4k77 vs DeEd debate

And to your point about dirt/scratches etc, I would argue that these flaws outweigh the extreme sharpening and poor DNR on the bluray that removed a lot of detail.

I’m not either. And I’d rather watch 4K77 than Despecialized. But your point that different aspects may outweigh others is exactly my point. These are different projects with different benefits, and it’s better to have options than to not.

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#1224172
Topic
Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 MKV IS OUT NOW
Time

Stotchy said:

I have to politely disagree with you there.

The bluray doesn’t contain any more detail than 4k77 with the exception of the area of the image that was cropped. The bluray is heavily sharpened which gives the illusion of additional detail but not any actual additional picture information.

I’ve sharpened the 4k77 footage myself as an experiment and it can be sharpened to match the bluray exactly.

So my question stands.

It’s still not a total replacement for despecialized. There are still tens of thousands of scratches and pieces of dirt, despite the amazing job done on 4k77 (and that will still be true of the DNR version). There are still many distracting light flickers, mostly in the bottom right corner.

In any case, these are different projects with different goals. Restoring a release print versus something along the lines of what the blu ray should have been. And I don’t believe what you say about some amount of sharpening making 4k77 perfectly match the Blu-ray, anyway.

I dont know why you would even suggest that he work on ESB or Rotj if you believe these types of projects are so redundant. 4k83 will probably be out before Harmy’s next project. Just enjoy the tn1 work if you prefer it.