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#1520086
Topic
Beavis and Butt-Head - Project Buffcoat (Dot Crawl Removal)
Time

PsyKovic said:

SpacemanDoug said:

towne32 said:

SpacemanDoug said:

It seems they stopped adding episodes on Paramount+

Yes, but more are currently airing on Comedy Central UK, including:
Eating Contest
1-900 Beavis
Water Safety
Figure Drawing
Butt is it Art?
Manners Suck
Radio Sweethearts
Killing Time
Safe House
Beavis and Butt-Head’s Island

I wonder why they stopped though

Possibly copyright issues

Nothing to suggest this, as there are other episodes with duplicated music videos they haven’t aired on P+.

They’re likely to add more in the build up to season 10, but they’re a long way off from a full set.

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#1519704
Topic
Beavis and Butt-Head - Project Buffcoat (Dot Crawl Removal)
Time

In 2022, remastered, full episodes of the original Beavis and Butt-Head series were finally released to coincide
with the new movie and TV series. These episodes contain the music video segments, many of which had only been
available in low quality or with TV network-watermarks, even in the amazing King Turd collection. Some episodes
from this set never had official DVD releases (Cyberbutt), lacked any home video releases (Cow Tipping), or had
only censored releases (Woodshop).

A full remaster from film negatives, if they still exist, would have been costly and would still need the music
video segments which, as best we can tell, were edited on video. The remasters come from specific broadcast tapes.
This is clear because the end credits include the staff of the ‘paired’ episode from the transferred tape, and
sometimes fragments of a specific commercial bumper.

These tapes, particularly those of season 7, are covered with dot crawl – an artifact of composite NTSC signal.
The severity varies from episode to episode, and was always present, but it is far more obvious than ever in these
fairly clean, upscaled transfers. While this release attempts to fix the majority of dot crawl, some episodes were
excessively bad (Cyberbutt) and still have some less noticeable crawl, especially in high-motion sequences
(see Die Fly Die).

Issues and Changes:

Episodes originally aired with two (or three) cartoons per half hour and shared credit sequence. This project
follows the streaming format of appending the full intro and credits to each cartoon.

The new Sporting Goods transfer used the ‘reanimated’ intro, with a second grasshopper instead of a lighter. The
original version did not air many times. Included is an alternate version using an upscaled off-air tape of the
original first scene, which will have to do until higher quality sources may be used.

Sporting Goods has exceptionally high quality video. We’ve used its intro sequence to replace the lower quality ones
on every other episode. For season 7, this required retiming the individual laughs, and adding Mike Judge’s name.

Most of the streaming remasters added the longer S7 “Mike Judge” intro to the start of S3-5 episodes. This cut into
the start of the title card sequence. In most cases, the existing frames could be looped without losing anything
unique. For “Late Night with Butt-Head”, the first few frames were taken from the DVD and color matched.

This release is generally meant to match the broadcast episodes. In some cases, like “Pierced”, “Choke”, and “Late
Night with Butt-Head”, the DVD had certain shots that are extended by a few frames or seconds.

Removed residual audio belonging to commercial break bumpers from: Sporting Goods, Cow Tipping, Take a Number,
Stewart Moves Away.

The remasters have some baked in deinterlacing errors. The main cartoon is mostly fine, but some music videos have
frame blending. On-screen text, like the end credits, can have a field inversion issue in some cases.

The Del Amitri video in “Follow Me” normally has a very bright, blown out look, and has been excessively darkened in
the streaming remaster – even the animated parts, for some reason. This release reverts that.

“Special Delivery” uses the U2 video rather than the Rolling Stones. This is not a modern replacement, and both
versions aired in the original run. As all season 7 videos are repeats anyway, this shouldn’t be a big deal.

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#1519702
Topic
Beavis and Butt-Head - Project Buffcoat (Dot Crawl Removal)
Time

These are edits of the first batch of 33 Beavis and Butt-Head episodes that have been ‘remastered’ and released in 2022. This reduces a severe analog artifact in them and fixes other small problems. Episodes contain the intro, music videos, and credits. Please see the included readme for additional information about the various issues and fixes.

See here for screenshot comparisons of the streaming versions and this release with dot crawl removal. It isn’t perfect, but it’s better than the constant dots buzzing around:

https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/31159
https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/31159/picture:1

Episodes:

S03E13 - Sporting Goods (Censored)
S03E13 - Sporting Goods (Uncensored)
S04E02 - Cow Tipping
S04E12 - Late Night with Butt-Head
S04E27 - Crisis Line
S05E04 - Choke
S05E11 - Career Day
S05E13 - Take a Number
S05E16 - Stewart Moves Away
S05E41 - Premature Evacuation
S05E48 - Bus Trip
S05E49 - Green Thumbs
S07E02 - Ding Dong Ditch
S07E07 - Head Lice
S07E08 - Cyberbutt
S07E10 - Citizens Arrest
S07E11 - Pierced
S07E12 - A Great Day
S07E14 - Follow Me
S07E15 - Nothing Happening
S07E16 - Take a Lap
S07E17 - Shortcuts
S07E18 - Bride of Butt-Head
S07E19 - Special Delivery (U2 Version)
S07E20 - Woodshop
S07E21 - TV Violence
S07E23 - Canned
S07E24 - Garage Band
S07E25 - Butt Butt Hike
S07E28 - Shopping Cart
S07E30 - Die Fly Die
S07E31 - Drinking Butt-ies
S07E37 - Leave it to Beavis
S07E38 - Butt Flambé

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#1507628
Topic
Beavis and Butt-Head S03E35 - Incognito (Reconstruction/Restoration)
Time

SpacemanDoug said:

towne32 said:

SpacemanDoug said:

Class316 said:

SpacemanDoug said:

I do know for a fact the episodes won’t be in their original form

A lot of the early episodes after the fire controversy had their original masters altered to remove fire references

It’s also possible Judge himself won’t allow certain moments to be seen again or entire episodes

Some of the new eps have fire references. Why would they remove from the old ones?

it has to do with the episode Comedians, when it aired a family claimed their son set the house on fire because of that episode he saw on TV (though this turned out to be a hoax) and MTV freaked out and censored prior episodes removing fire references or scenes for future broadcasts and apparently they destroyed the uncensored masters, meaning that they “officially” only exist censored now supposedly

since Sporting Goods is its censored version on Paramount+ (iirc it only aired uncensored once), it seems like that certain edits are baked in to the early episodes now

Or at least the majority of tapes out there contain the edit, and are more likely to be transferred by someone who isn’t particularly aware.

10 episodes were added this week, by the way.

yep I saw, all of them for seasons 5 and 7

any edits to them?

Not that I’m aware of.

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#1507625
Topic
Beavis and Butt-Head S03E35 - Incognito (Reconstruction/Restoration)
Time

SpacemanDoug said:

Class316 said:

SpacemanDoug said:

I do know for a fact the episodes won’t be in their original form

A lot of the early episodes after the fire controversy had their original masters altered to remove fire references

It’s also possible Judge himself won’t allow certain moments to be seen again or entire episodes

Some of the new eps have fire references. Why would they remove from the old ones?

it has to do with the episode Comedians, when it aired a family claimed their son set the house on fire because of that episode he saw on TV (though this turned out to be a hoax) and MTV freaked out and censored prior episodes removing fire references or scenes for future broadcasts and apparently they destroyed the uncensored masters, meaning that they “officially” only exist censored now supposedly

since Sporting Goods is its censored version on Paramount+ (iirc it only aired uncensored once), it seems like that certain edits are baked in to the early episodes now

Or at least the majority of tapes out there contain the edit, and are more likely to be transferred by someone who isn’t particularly aware.

10 episodes were added this week, by the way.

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#1507617
Topic
Beavis and Butt-Head S03E35 - Incognito (Reconstruction/Restoration)
Time

Class316 said:

SpacemanDoug said:

I do know for a fact the episodes won’t be in their original form

A lot of the early episodes after the fire controversy had their original masters altered to remove fire references

It’s also possible Judge himself won’t allow certain moments to be seen again or entire episodes

Some of the new eps have fire references. Why would they remove from the old ones?

Yeah, I don’t think fire is going to be an issue at all, unless there is difficulty actually finding the tapes, or finding an intern/whomever that’s actually familiar with the episodes to transfer the tapes.

Although Mike has, in the past, requested certain episodes taken out of circulation, I think it has more to do with his opinion of their quality rather than content like fire. Paramount has already shown episodes not included in the Mike Judge Collection, so there’s no indication whatsoever that he’s blocking anything.

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#1507087
Topic
Beavis and Butt-Head S03E35 - Incognito (Reconstruction/Restoration)
Time

SpacemanDoug said:

it seems they’re not releasing anymore episodes which is a bummer

either they gave up or they’re holding out until all of the episodes can be cleared

Actually it resumes the 12th of October (which probably means 11:59 Pacific time Wednesday). They seemed to stop during the new season.

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#1498329
Topic
Beavis and Butt-Head S03E35 - Incognito (Reconstruction/Restoration)
Time

SpacemanDoug said:

towne32 said:

SpacemanDoug said:

towne32 said:

SpacemanDoug said:

towne32 said:

TheHutt70 said:

towne32 said:

TheHutt70 said:

Just seeing this thread.
Any updates?
I’ve been wanting to get a comprehensive B&B collection.
I originally just had the King Turd collection… although not V3 that was mentioned above I don’t think… I’m actually not totally sure which I have and it’s not mentioned in the included Word file.
But I also have the DVD rips, Mike Judge Collection (I downloaded these from Amazon with a Paramount+ subscription, Blu Ray rips, etc.

Ok, so edit as I’m typing this.
I just looked it up and there are many more episodes for me to get through Amazon. They have episodes from seasons 4 though 11 using Paramount… I’m acquiring all of these as I type.
First one I got was S04E02 Cow Tipping that is mentioned above.
Definitely much sharper quality than the existing one I had… the Metallica on Beavis’ shirt is much more clear… better colors etc.
Also the file is longer at 11:35 compared to the King Turd copy at 10:49
Although my Amazon (Paramount rip) is only 173 meg compared to the King Turd at 282 meg it is much better.

So has anyone put together a definitive list of all the episodes (I generally follow The TVDB listings)… along with the best current available source?

While I have the full rips of all the DVD’s and BluRays I still have to go through and properly name them and see what to replace with my current King Turd collection.
This is a hard set to put together as some rips/sources have single episodes, double episodes, with/without music videos.

I have put together an excel sheet of all the various best sources. But a lot of the TV captures and tapes used to make King Turd are not publicly available. It’s thousands of files.

But more importantly, the list becomes more obsolete every couple of weeks. We are still in the early stage of paramount uploading the full episodes. We will need to reassess everything when they finally finish, but we have only had a couple dozen episodes released over 5 weeks so far. What they have listed as seasons 9 to 11 are just the Mike Judge Collection DVDs of chopped up episodes.

If you are looking through the DVDs to find episodes that are better than King Turd, I wouldn’t bother. No new DVDs have come out since KT v2. They used the Mike Judge Collection, etc. A few rips have surfaced that can help get rid of logos. But again, we probably need to wait about a year until paramount finishes releasing the whole series.

The Paramount episodes aren’t perfect. Some of the music videos suffer from conversion to progressive scan. Some of the broadcast tapes they’re using have dot crawl analog noise, and so on. But it will give us a lot of material to use for upgrades. It was already looking like we could remove just about every logo, but that should become a whole lot easier in time.

Well, the BluRays are definitely the nicest but only about 15 episodes. Do you know if there are plans for any more BluRay releases?
Does Paramount have a release schedule or is it just a wait and see sort of thing?
Do you happen to have a source for the KingTurd V3 set? I’ve had mine for years so I’m sure it’s version 2.

KT is version 2. The above discussion was about making a v3 someday using these new sources.

Season 8 is on Blu-ray because it was made in 2011, digitally, in HD.

These paramount+ episodes aren’t remastered in the sense that they’re scanning any film in HD. They aren’t even using the master analog tapes, but rather specific broadcast masters. So they’re nowhere near Blu-ray quality, but the benefit is that they include the music videos and scenes that would become censored (depending on which tapes they use!).

Oh, and paramount is a wait and see thing. They release Thursday, early morning, every 2 or 3 weeks. 4 to 9 episodes at a time, so far.

so the episodes that are available already, are there any past edits that still apply?

They’re mostly season 7 episodes, and a couple season 4 and 5 episodes. So far, no, not edited. As I mentioned, Woodshop has the cut parts intact. Late Night with Butt-Head has the Letterman portion intact. But those would have been DVD edits rather than broadcast edits. Off the top of my head, I’m not sure if any they’ve posted so far were censored on their original MTV run.

I’m particularly curious about Comedians if/when it surfaces

Well they added Sporting Goods today and it is the censored version, so that is a pretty bad sign.

What was censored?

The original opening scene only aired once: bnb had a lighter and praying mantis. They reanimated it to have two dueling mantises.

Post
#1498121
Topic
Beavis and Butt-Head S03E35 - Incognito (Reconstruction/Restoration)
Time

SpacemanDoug said:

towne32 said:

SpacemanDoug said:

towne32 said:

TheHutt70 said:

towne32 said:

TheHutt70 said:

Just seeing this thread.
Any updates?
I’ve been wanting to get a comprehensive B&B collection.
I originally just had the King Turd collection… although not V3 that was mentioned above I don’t think… I’m actually not totally sure which I have and it’s not mentioned in the included Word file.
But I also have the DVD rips, Mike Judge Collection (I downloaded these from Amazon with a Paramount+ subscription, Blu Ray rips, etc.

Ok, so edit as I’m typing this.
I just looked it up and there are many more episodes for me to get through Amazon. They have episodes from seasons 4 though 11 using Paramount… I’m acquiring all of these as I type.
First one I got was S04E02 Cow Tipping that is mentioned above.
Definitely much sharper quality than the existing one I had… the Metallica on Beavis’ shirt is much more clear… better colors etc.
Also the file is longer at 11:35 compared to the King Turd copy at 10:49
Although my Amazon (Paramount rip) is only 173 meg compared to the King Turd at 282 meg it is much better.

So has anyone put together a definitive list of all the episodes (I generally follow The TVDB listings)… along with the best current available source?

While I have the full rips of all the DVD’s and BluRays I still have to go through and properly name them and see what to replace with my current King Turd collection.
This is a hard set to put together as some rips/sources have single episodes, double episodes, with/without music videos.

I have put together an excel sheet of all the various best sources. But a lot of the TV captures and tapes used to make King Turd are not publicly available. It’s thousands of files.

But more importantly, the list becomes more obsolete every couple of weeks. We are still in the early stage of paramount uploading the full episodes. We will need to reassess everything when they finally finish, but we have only had a couple dozen episodes released over 5 weeks so far. What they have listed as seasons 9 to 11 are just the Mike Judge Collection DVDs of chopped up episodes.

If you are looking through the DVDs to find episodes that are better than King Turd, I wouldn’t bother. No new DVDs have come out since KT v2. They used the Mike Judge Collection, etc. A few rips have surfaced that can help get rid of logos. But again, we probably need to wait about a year until paramount finishes releasing the whole series.

The Paramount episodes aren’t perfect. Some of the music videos suffer from conversion to progressive scan. Some of the broadcast tapes they’re using have dot crawl analog noise, and so on. But it will give us a lot of material to use for upgrades. It was already looking like we could remove just about every logo, but that should become a whole lot easier in time.

Well, the BluRays are definitely the nicest but only about 15 episodes. Do you know if there are plans for any more BluRay releases?
Does Paramount have a release schedule or is it just a wait and see sort of thing?
Do you happen to have a source for the KingTurd V3 set? I’ve had mine for years so I’m sure it’s version 2.

KT is version 2. The above discussion was about making a v3 someday using these new sources.

Season 8 is on Blu-ray because it was made in 2011, digitally, in HD.

These paramount+ episodes aren’t remastered in the sense that they’re scanning any film in HD. They aren’t even using the master analog tapes, but rather specific broadcast masters. So they’re nowhere near Blu-ray quality, but the benefit is that they include the music videos and scenes that would become censored (depending on which tapes they use!).

Oh, and paramount is a wait and see thing. They release Thursday, early morning, every 2 or 3 weeks. 4 to 9 episodes at a time, so far.

so the episodes that are available already, are there any past edits that still apply?

They’re mostly season 7 episodes, and a couple season 4 and 5 episodes. So far, no, not edited. As I mentioned, Woodshop has the cut parts intact. Late Night with Butt-Head has the Letterman portion intact. But those would have been DVD edits rather than broadcast edits. Off the top of my head, I’m not sure if any they’ve posted so far were censored on their original MTV run.

I’m particularly curious about Comedians if/when it surfaces

Well they added Sporting Goods today and it is the censored version, so that is a pretty bad sign.

Post
#1497388
Topic
Beavis and Butt-Head S03E35 - Incognito (Reconstruction/Restoration)
Time

SpacemanDoug said:

towne32 said:

SpacemanDoug said:

towne32 said:

TheHutt70 said:

towne32 said:

TheHutt70 said:

Just seeing this thread.
Any updates?
I’ve been wanting to get a comprehensive B&B collection.
I originally just had the King Turd collection… although not V3 that was mentioned above I don’t think… I’m actually not totally sure which I have and it’s not mentioned in the included Word file.
But I also have the DVD rips, Mike Judge Collection (I downloaded these from Amazon with a Paramount+ subscription, Blu Ray rips, etc.

Ok, so edit as I’m typing this.
I just looked it up and there are many more episodes for me to get through Amazon. They have episodes from seasons 4 though 11 using Paramount… I’m acquiring all of these as I type.
First one I got was S04E02 Cow Tipping that is mentioned above.
Definitely much sharper quality than the existing one I had… the Metallica on Beavis’ shirt is much more clear… better colors etc.
Also the file is longer at 11:35 compared to the King Turd copy at 10:49
Although my Amazon (Paramount rip) is only 173 meg compared to the King Turd at 282 meg it is much better.

So has anyone put together a definitive list of all the episodes (I generally follow The TVDB listings)… along with the best current available source?

While I have the full rips of all the DVD’s and BluRays I still have to go through and properly name them and see what to replace with my current King Turd collection.
This is a hard set to put together as some rips/sources have single episodes, double episodes, with/without music videos.

I have put together an excel sheet of all the various best sources. But a lot of the TV captures and tapes used to make King Turd are not publicly available. It’s thousands of files.

But more importantly, the list becomes more obsolete every couple of weeks. We are still in the early stage of paramount uploading the full episodes. We will need to reassess everything when they finally finish, but we have only had a couple dozen episodes released over 5 weeks so far. What they have listed as seasons 9 to 11 are just the Mike Judge Collection DVDs of chopped up episodes.

If you are looking through the DVDs to find episodes that are better than King Turd, I wouldn’t bother. No new DVDs have come out since KT v2. They used the Mike Judge Collection, etc. A few rips have surfaced that can help get rid of logos. But again, we probably need to wait about a year until paramount finishes releasing the whole series.

The Paramount episodes aren’t perfect. Some of the music videos suffer from conversion to progressive scan. Some of the broadcast tapes they’re using have dot crawl analog noise, and so on. But it will give us a lot of material to use for upgrades. It was already looking like we could remove just about every logo, but that should become a whole lot easier in time.

Well, the BluRays are definitely the nicest but only about 15 episodes. Do you know if there are plans for any more BluRay releases?
Does Paramount have a release schedule or is it just a wait and see sort of thing?
Do you happen to have a source for the KingTurd V3 set? I’ve had mine for years so I’m sure it’s version 2.

KT is version 2. The above discussion was about making a v3 someday using these new sources.

Season 8 is on Blu-ray because it was made in 2011, digitally, in HD.

These paramount+ episodes aren’t remastered in the sense that they’re scanning any film in HD. They aren’t even using the master analog tapes, but rather specific broadcast masters. So they’re nowhere near Blu-ray quality, but the benefit is that they include the music videos and scenes that would become censored (depending on which tapes they use!).

Oh, and paramount is a wait and see thing. They release Thursday, early morning, every 2 or 3 weeks. 4 to 9 episodes at a time, so far.

so the episodes that are available already, are there any past edits that still apply?

They’re mostly season 7 episodes, and a couple season 4 and 5 episodes. So far, no, not edited. As I mentioned, Woodshop has the cut parts intact. Late Night with Butt-Head has the Letterman portion intact. But those would have been DVD edits rather than broadcast edits. Off the top of my head, I’m not sure if any they’ve posted so far were censored on their original MTV run.

I’m particularly curious about Comedians if/when it surfaces

Definitely. Comedians is the most famous example, so maybe they’ll pay attention for that one. They are doing some S3 episodes next week, so fingers crossed. So far, they are using broadcast masters (they have the pooled credits from multiple episodes, and you can hear the start of the commercial bumper).

But it’s not clear yet if they’re just pulling whatever they find first, or if they’re paying enough attention to make sure they will be the most unedited versions. Based on what we can see about the episode pairings (the credits, for instance) it isn’t always the first airing they’re using.

Post
#1497385
Topic
Beavis and Butt-Head S03E35 - Incognito (Reconstruction/Restoration)
Time

SpacemanDoug said:

towne32 said:

TheHutt70 said:

towne32 said:

TheHutt70 said:

Just seeing this thread.
Any updates?
I’ve been wanting to get a comprehensive B&B collection.
I originally just had the King Turd collection… although not V3 that was mentioned above I don’t think… I’m actually not totally sure which I have and it’s not mentioned in the included Word file.
But I also have the DVD rips, Mike Judge Collection (I downloaded these from Amazon with a Paramount+ subscription, Blu Ray rips, etc.

Ok, so edit as I’m typing this.
I just looked it up and there are many more episodes for me to get through Amazon. They have episodes from seasons 4 though 11 using Paramount… I’m acquiring all of these as I type.
First one I got was S04E02 Cow Tipping that is mentioned above.
Definitely much sharper quality than the existing one I had… the Metallica on Beavis’ shirt is much more clear… better colors etc.
Also the file is longer at 11:35 compared to the King Turd copy at 10:49
Although my Amazon (Paramount rip) is only 173 meg compared to the King Turd at 282 meg it is much better.

So has anyone put together a definitive list of all the episodes (I generally follow The TVDB listings)… along with the best current available source?

While I have the full rips of all the DVD’s and BluRays I still have to go through and properly name them and see what to replace with my current King Turd collection.
This is a hard set to put together as some rips/sources have single episodes, double episodes, with/without music videos.

I have put together an excel sheet of all the various best sources. But a lot of the TV captures and tapes used to make King Turd are not publicly available. It’s thousands of files.

But more importantly, the list becomes more obsolete every couple of weeks. We are still in the early stage of paramount uploading the full episodes. We will need to reassess everything when they finally finish, but we have only had a couple dozen episodes released over 5 weeks so far. What they have listed as seasons 9 to 11 are just the Mike Judge Collection DVDs of chopped up episodes.

If you are looking through the DVDs to find episodes that are better than King Turd, I wouldn’t bother. No new DVDs have come out since KT v2. They used the Mike Judge Collection, etc. A few rips have surfaced that can help get rid of logos. But again, we probably need to wait about a year until paramount finishes releasing the whole series.

The Paramount episodes aren’t perfect. Some of the music videos suffer from conversion to progressive scan. Some of the broadcast tapes they’re using have dot crawl analog noise, and so on. But it will give us a lot of material to use for upgrades. It was already looking like we could remove just about every logo, but that should become a whole lot easier in time.

Well, the BluRays are definitely the nicest but only about 15 episodes. Do you know if there are plans for any more BluRay releases?
Does Paramount have a release schedule or is it just a wait and see sort of thing?
Do you happen to have a source for the KingTurd V3 set? I’ve had mine for years so I’m sure it’s version 2.

KT is version 2. The above discussion was about making a v3 someday using these new sources.

Season 8 is on Blu-ray because it was made in 2011, digitally, in HD.

These paramount+ episodes aren’t remastered in the sense that they’re scanning any film in HD. They aren’t even using the master analog tapes, but rather specific broadcast masters. So they’re nowhere near Blu-ray quality, but the benefit is that they include the music videos and scenes that would become censored (depending on which tapes they use!).

Oh, and paramount is a wait and see thing. They release Thursday, early morning, every 2 or 3 weeks. 4 to 9 episodes at a time, so far.

so the episodes that are available already, are there any past edits that still apply?

They’re mostly season 7 episodes, and a couple season 4 and 5 episodes. So far, no, not edited. As I mentioned, Woodshop has the cut parts intact. Late Night with Butt-Head has the Letterman portion intact. But those would have been DVD edits rather than broadcast edits. Off the top of my head, I’m not sure if any they’ve posted so far were censored on their original MTV run.

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#1497341
Topic
Beavis and Butt-Head S03E35 - Incognito (Reconstruction/Restoration)
Time

TheHutt70 said:

towne32 said:

TheHutt70 said:

Just seeing this thread.
Any updates?
I’ve been wanting to get a comprehensive B&B collection.
I originally just had the King Turd collection… although not V3 that was mentioned above I don’t think… I’m actually not totally sure which I have and it’s not mentioned in the included Word file.
But I also have the DVD rips, Mike Judge Collection (I downloaded these from Amazon with a Paramount+ subscription, Blu Ray rips, etc.

Ok, so edit as I’m typing this.
I just looked it up and there are many more episodes for me to get through Amazon. They have episodes from seasons 4 though 11 using Paramount… I’m acquiring all of these as I type.
First one I got was S04E02 Cow Tipping that is mentioned above.
Definitely much sharper quality than the existing one I had… the Metallica on Beavis’ shirt is much more clear… better colors etc.
Also the file is longer at 11:35 compared to the King Turd copy at 10:49
Although my Amazon (Paramount rip) is only 173 meg compared to the King Turd at 282 meg it is much better.

So has anyone put together a definitive list of all the episodes (I generally follow The TVDB listings)… along with the best current available source?

While I have the full rips of all the DVD’s and BluRays I still have to go through and properly name them and see what to replace with my current King Turd collection.
This is a hard set to put together as some rips/sources have single episodes, double episodes, with/without music videos.

I have put together an excel sheet of all the various best sources. But a lot of the TV captures and tapes used to make King Turd are not publicly available. It’s thousands of files.

But more importantly, the list becomes more obsolete every couple of weeks. We are still in the early stage of paramount uploading the full episodes. We will need to reassess everything when they finally finish, but we have only had a couple dozen episodes released over 5 weeks so far. What they have listed as seasons 9 to 11 are just the Mike Judge Collection DVDs of chopped up episodes.

If you are looking through the DVDs to find episodes that are better than King Turd, I wouldn’t bother. No new DVDs have come out since KT v2. They used the Mike Judge Collection, etc. A few rips have surfaced that can help get rid of logos. But again, we probably need to wait about a year until paramount finishes releasing the whole series.

The Paramount episodes aren’t perfect. Some of the music videos suffer from conversion to progressive scan. Some of the broadcast tapes they’re using have dot crawl analog noise, and so on. But it will give us a lot of material to use for upgrades. It was already looking like we could remove just about every logo, but that should become a whole lot easier in time.

Well, the BluRays are definitely the nicest but only about 15 episodes. Do you know if there are plans for any more BluRay releases?
Does Paramount have a release schedule or is it just a wait and see sort of thing?
Do you happen to have a source for the KingTurd V3 set? I’ve had mine for years so I’m sure it’s version 2.

KT is version 2. The above discussion was about making a v3 someday using these new sources.

Season 8 is on Blu-ray because it was made in 2011, digitally, in HD.

These paramount+ episodes aren’t remastered in the sense that they’re scanning any film in HD. They aren’t even using the master analog tapes, but rather specific broadcast masters. So they’re nowhere near Blu-ray quality, but the benefit is that they include the music videos and scenes that would become censored (depending on which tapes they use!).

Oh, and paramount is a wait and see thing. They release Thursday, early morning, every 2 or 3 weeks. 4 to 9 episodes at a time, so far.

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#1497324
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Beavis and Butt-Head S03E35 - Incognito (Reconstruction/Restoration)
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TheHutt70 said:

Just seeing this thread.
Any updates?
I’ve been wanting to get a comprehensive B&B collection.
I originally just had the King Turd collection… although not V3 that was mentioned above I don’t think… I’m actually not totally sure which I have and it’s not mentioned in the included Word file.
But I also have the DVD rips, Mike Judge Collection (I downloaded these from Amazon with a Paramount+ subscription, Blu Ray rips, etc.

Ok, so edit as I’m typing this.
I just looked it up and there are many more episodes for me to get through Amazon. They have episodes from seasons 4 though 11 using Paramount… I’m acquiring all of these as I type.
First one I got was S04E02 Cow Tipping that is mentioned above.
Definitely much sharper quality than the existing one I had… the Metallica on Beavis’ shirt is much more clear… better colors etc.
Also the file is longer at 11:35 compared to the King Turd copy at 10:49
Although my Amazon (Paramount rip) is only 173 meg compared to the King Turd at 282 meg it is much better.

So has anyone put together a definitive list of all the episodes (I generally follow The TVDB listings)… along with the best current available source?

While I have the full rips of all the DVD’s and BluRays I still have to go through and properly name them and see what to replace with my current King Turd collection.
This is a hard set to put together as some rips/sources have single episodes, double episodes, with/without music videos.

I have put together an excel sheet of all the various best sources. But a lot of the TV captures and tapes used to make King Turd are not publicly available. It’s thousands of files.

But more importantly, the list becomes more obsolete every couple of weeks. We are still in the early stage of paramount uploading the full episodes. We will need to reassess everything when they finally finish, but we have only had a couple dozen episodes released over 5 weeks so far. What they have listed as seasons 9 to 11 are just the Mike Judge Collection DVDs of chopped up episodes.

If you are looking through the DVDs to find episodes that are better than King Turd, I wouldn’t bother. No new DVDs have come out since KT v2. They used the Mike Judge Collection, etc. A few rips have surfaced that can help get rid of logos. But again, we probably need to wait about a year until paramount finishes releasing the whole series.

The Paramount episodes aren’t perfect. Some of the music videos suffer from conversion to progressive scan. Some of the broadcast tapes they’re using have dot crawl analog noise, and so on. But it will give us a lot of material to use for upgrades. It was already looking like we could remove just about every logo, but that should become a whole lot easier in time.

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#1491748
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Beavis and Butt-Head S03E35 - Incognito (Reconstruction/Restoration)
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SpacemanDoug said:

towne32 said:

Fullmetaled said:

towne32 said:

Moiisty said:

towne32 said:

Well Paramount+ went live with their episodes today. The main bad news is that it seems they will be very staggered, with only a few released so far.

The great news is that they are uncensored (see Woodshop), with music videos, intros, and credits more or less intact. A few nitpicks about some of those things, but generally they’ve released some good material. Cow Tipping has never been released on home video, and only low quality versions were available. Quality looks good, with some dust, specs, and small scratches occasionally present from the film.

These seem to come from broadcast masters. In addition to the Woodshop lack of censorship, there is a trace of the commercial bumper left in Cow Tipping.

Does this mean king turd v3 can be improved with P+ episodes?

Absolutely. They’ve already upgraded Cow Tipping, Woodshop, and Buttbutt Hike with the mere 7 episodes they’ve added. Plus Black Hole Sun and possibly some of the other music videos. Now without channel logos.

This is big, and hopefully many more will be added. It could end up being more about how the sources used to make KT (which I do have available) can patch a few spots in P+.

All 200 eps are supposed to be coming out on it soon enough.

Yeah, staggered this summer. The caveat is that I don’t think Paramount has ever said all episodes. >200 has been said, but that already includes some of s8 (there are 222 including S8).

So, there could be some small wiggle room for a few they really don’t want to air. And maybe a few music videos won’t make the cut. But it should be a ton of good content.

It’s also possible some edits would be baked in anyway to whatever masters they’re using because supposedly MTV altered the actual finished masters themselves in some episodes

That’s the rumor at least. I feel like this kind of information, even when from official sources, can be a bit dubious at times.

But I don’t think it will necessarily be a problem. They’re not scanning the 35mm master of the story portion of the episodes, they seem to be going to the broadcast copies, which makes sense if they want the music video portions (likely edited entirely on video) intact.

So all this means is that they need to use a broadcast version that’s not censored, and there may be a few to choose from. For example, in their Cow Tipping version, you can hear the start of the commercial bumper (this one) before a scene change. And a few different commercial bumpers existed for this episode, so there are probably a few broadcast tapes they could have chosen from, if they’ve still got them all. The same may be true for earlier, edited episodes.

Guess we will see.

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#1490074
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Beavis and Butt-Head S03E35 - Incognito (Reconstruction/Restoration)
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Fullmetaled said:

towne32 said:

Moiisty said:

towne32 said:

Well Paramount+ went live with their episodes today. The main bad news is that it seems they will be very staggered, with only a few released so far.

The great news is that they are uncensored (see Woodshop), with music videos, intros, and credits more or less intact. A few nitpicks about some of those things, but generally they’ve released some good material. Cow Tipping has never been released on home video, and only low quality versions were available. Quality looks good, with some dust, specs, and small scratches occasionally present from the film.

These seem to come from broadcast masters. In addition to the Woodshop lack of censorship, there is a trace of the commercial bumper left in Cow Tipping.

Does this mean king turd v3 can be improved with P+ episodes?

Absolutely. They’ve already upgraded Cow Tipping, Woodshop, and Buttbutt Hike with the mere 7 episodes they’ve added. Plus Black Hole Sun and possibly some of the other music videos. Now without channel logos.

This is big, and hopefully many more will be added. It could end up being more about how the sources used to make KT (which I do have available) can patch a few spots in P+.

All 200 eps are supposed to be coming out on it soon enough.

Yeah, staggered this summer. The caveat is that I don’t think Paramount has ever said all episodes. >200 has been said, but that already includes some of s8 (there are 222 including S8).

So, there could be some small wiggle room for a few they really don’t want to air. And maybe a few music videos won’t make the cut. But it should be a ton of good content.

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#1490050
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Beavis and Butt-Head S03E35 - Incognito (Reconstruction/Restoration)
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Moiisty said:

towne32 said:

Well Paramount+ went live with their episodes today. The main bad news is that it seems they will be very staggered, with only a few released so far.

The great news is that they are uncensored (see Woodshop), with music videos, intros, and credits more or less intact. A few nitpicks about some of those things, but generally they’ve released some good material. Cow Tipping has never been released on home video, and only low quality versions were available. Quality looks good, with some dust, specs, and small scratches occasionally present from the film.

These seem to come from broadcast masters. In addition to the Woodshop lack of censorship, there is a trace of the commercial bumper left in Cow Tipping.

Does this mean king turd v3 can be improved with P+ episodes?

Absolutely. They’ve already upgraded Cow Tipping, Woodshop, and Buttbutt Hike with the mere 7 episodes they’ve added. Plus Black Hole Sun and possibly some of the other music videos. Now without channel logos.

This should be big for getting some episodes and scenes that were never available in decent quality, and hopefully many more will be added.

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#1490031
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Beavis and Butt-Head S03E35 - Incognito (Reconstruction/Restoration)
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Well Paramount+ went live with their episodes today. The main bad news is that it seems they will be very staggered, with only a few released so far.

The great news is that they are uncensored (see Woodshop), with music videos, intros, and credits more or less intact. A few nitpicks about some of those things, but generally they’ve released some good material. Cow Tipping has never been released on home video, and only low quality versions were available. Quality looks good, with some dust, specs, and small scratches occasionally present from the film, on the SD/analogue masters.

These seem to come from broadcast masters. In addition to the Woodshop lack of censorship, there is a trace of the commercial bumper left in Cow Tipping.

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#1482986
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Beavis and Butt-Head S03E35 - Incognito (Reconstruction/Restoration)
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SpacemanDoug said:

I do know for a fact the episodes won’t be in their original form

A lot of the early episodes after the fire controversy had their original masters altered to remove fire references

It’s also possible Judge himself won’t allow certain moments to be seen again or entire episodes

Yeah. We can only speculate on exactly how things exist in the archive, what has usable copies, etc. Comedians has been broadcast uncensored in later years on VH1, so who knows.

As for Mike, you’re right that he is perhaps the biggest critic of the early years, before the characters were well established. He requested they stop airing some, and obviously left a ton off the DVDs. I recall his stance is that a third are great, a third are ok, and a third are awful.

But if Paramount are showing 200+, his cut list will be much shorter than ever. At least for whole episodes.

We know very little about Paramount’s plans, but there should definitely be some upgrades, and there will definitely be a lot of work still to do.

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#1482979
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Beavis and Butt-Head S03E35 - Incognito (Reconstruction/Restoration)
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Hey - been a while since I’ve posted here. Hope you all are well…

This is a logo-less restoration of Incognito, with intro, commercial bumper, and remade music videos and end credits.

Quite a few BNB episodes have not been released on DVD. Incognito is one of five episodes that has not even had a VHS release. And, unfortunately, the available sources we have for this one are quite poor. The digital recordings we have are incomplete or (as is the case for VH1 Europe) covered in large logos.

While Paramount+ will be showing ‘remastered’ episodes this summer, it’s not clear what that means yet. Getting all of the music videos and censored scenes would be great, but it seems unlikely. And a few episodes, including Incognito, are still likely to be left off entirely (fingers crossed, though).

This project is a test for removing network logos using multiple sources, with the intention that this method can used to restore whatever gets left off of Paramount+. I’ve used Dr. Dre’s excellent color matching tool to mask the logos.

Thanks also to the people who have kept amazing archives, going way back to creating the KT collection, and the recordings that have come about since. See the main sources used here:

The European VH1 DVR is the best source available. Unfortunately, it does have frame blending from the PAL conversion, so this is never going to be perfect. A VHS recording from MTV UK has the same blending (likely in the PAL master), and has been used to remove the large VH1 logo. To remove the top BNB watermark, a lower quality MTV US VHS needed to be used. Dre’s color matching tool was used better match to the VH1 version. Music videos were rebuilt from better quality videos, and the BNB logo and text were redone. The end credits were rebuilt using the correct background sequence to improve their quality.

Available on the spleen and whatnot.

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#1334763
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Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga 4k UHD -- 27 DISC Boxed Set -- 3/31/2020
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adywan said:

I noticed that the on the uhd discs for ANH & ROTJ they have hardcoded subs for the alien language parts, while the foreign language versions have these sections without hardcoded subs , via seemless branching. Going to be a pain in the ass for editors wanting to use them as a source. I don’t know if the blu-rays are the same though.

Not too much of a pain if people are informed that 800.mpls gives you hardcoded subs. At least the clean versions are on the discs.

The 4K prequel discs are the same way. Rise of Skywalker is not, and doesn’t seem to use the standard typeface for forced alien subs.

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#1334429
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Info: All Star Wars films released in 4K HDR on Disney Plus: 2019 SE with more changes
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Stotchy said:

Can’t agree with you there. The whole choice of colour grade in the Disney versions across streaming and discs is pretty terrible. “Dark and desaturated” was clearly the brief. Particularly in Empire and Jedi.

The silver lining is that unlike the 11SE, all the color information is there so with some tweaks it can really be improved.

I’ve got the discs on hand now. They could be improved, no doubt (contrast, namely). Though I haven’t looked at Empire closely yet, and I suppose Jedi looks a bit desaturated. I’ve mostly examined and compared ANH, which looks decent color-wise, on the 1080p disc.

Of course, you’re right that the best purpose these will serve is as a source for future work. Nothing resembling the clipped magenta catastrophes.

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#1334008
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Info: All Star Wars films released in 4K HDR on Disney Plus: 2019 SE with more changes
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PressFireToPlay said:

Tried to watch this on Disney Plus the other day and wowsers, why is the image so dark? The only HDR thing that pops out is the white of the performers eyes, but I at least expected it to have a normal brightness. Just looks dirty and dark, appreciate this might tie in with it looking like it’s set during WW2. Used universe etc.
But it’s definitely not the way the films were originally made. Very disappointed.

As someone else pointed out to me, Disney currently streams the SDR grading if you play back the movies on a non HDR device (last year, they just streamed the HDR whether it worked for you or not).

The color and contrast really is quite nice for the specific SDR version (and the 1080p disc, it seems).