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#310285
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Old Star Wars Games on New Computer Systems (was: Tie Fighter Collectors' CD-ROM Works in DOSBox)
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RRS-1980,

I am a fan of flight sims I was into the Hornet series and Wing Commander. The thing is I never had the cool Thrustmaster stuff back then, mainly generic or low-end sticks like those old Advance Gravis or Quickshots.

It was Tie Fighter that got me to seriously get into better joysticks. My first major joystick purchase was the Wingman Extreme, I liked that one a lot but the triggers would notoriously fail. So I then got a CH Flighstick Pro which I still have today. It works with those USB gameport adaptor things. The Flighstick Pro blew me away with how precise it is. Still my favorite stick.

I recently got the old Thrustmaster stuff but haven’t played with it yet. I also picked up the new Thrustmaster T.Flight Stick X recently and haven’t tried that either, it seems a little small for my hands. My classes end this week so I should get to test them out soon.

If you want to get rid of old hardware let me know, we can work something out.


-tiefighter
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#309793
Topic
Old Star Wars Games on New Computer Systems (was: Tie Fighter Collectors' CD-ROM Works in DOSBox)
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Originally posted by: RRS-1980
I'm very glad to see another fan of the classic SW spacesims! I've wasted endless hours (days? months? LOL) playing them... in fact it was "X-Wing" what reminded me of Star Wars back in 1993... looks like you truly deserve to use my avatar

Thanks, the board won't let me upload mine so I will try to change it again later.

Originally posted by: tiefighter
The difference with those Windows games is that none of them use the nifty iMUSE system that gave the originals the dynamic MIDI soundtrack.

Yeah, that was a huge step back and they couldn't fix it until the mp3 format started to be used in the games. Did anyone else noted that it always took about a second for the CD drive to switch to victory/defeat track? I always dreaded that "jump" while in flight...

Another thing I miss was the grayness of the starships etc. That black/white feeling from Empire Strikes Back. Later on with the introduction of textures and colored light sources everything became too colorful to be "starwarsy".


I agree that the old games even look better because of the lack of overblown graphics like in todays games. I have been collecting vintage joysticks and such from eBay and even scored a copy of the Macintosh versions of Tie and X-Wing Collector's CD-ROMs. So naturally I had to buy a Macintosh to play them on. Picked up a Blue and White G3 for like $55.00 shipped. I think this is the last Mac with ADB, so I can use the Flightstick Pro, or Thrustmaster FCS/WCS. The Macintosh versions seem to have slightly better graphics detail in the concourse area. One day I may have time to actually play the games . . .
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#309524
Topic
Old Star Wars Games on New Computer Systems (was: Tie Fighter Collectors' CD-ROM Works in DOSBox)
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Lucasfiles.com has a fix for some of the post-DOS x-wing/tie fighter games:

"This compatibility fix when installed will provide Windows 2000/XP with the compatibility settings required for these operating systems to run the X-Wing Collector Series and X-Wing Trilogy versions of X-Wing & TIE Fighter (Also known as X-Wing 95 & TIE Fighter 95) with Hardware 3D Graphics acceleration turned on. The fix also stops the TIE Fighter Launcher from asking you to install DirectX 5.2."

http://www.lucasfiles.com/index.php?s=&action=file&id=653

I have many of those titles also but the DOS Tie Fighter Collectors' CD-ROM is the best for me. The difference with those Windows games is that none of them use the nifty iMUSE system that gave the originals the dynamic MIDI soundtrack.
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#309455
Topic
Old Star Wars Games on New Computer Systems (was: Tie Fighter Collectors' CD-ROM Works in DOSBox)
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If you still have the DOS version of Tie Fighter Collectors' CD-ROM you can play it in Windows 2000/XP!!! [and vista if you must, though I have not tried it]

The best way is to get DOSBox a program that emulates the DOS environment from http://www.dosbox.com/
Then make an ISO of your Tie Fighter Collectors' CD-ROM using something like ImgBurn at http://www.imgburn.com/
You can play it using the CD live but I find it runs a lot smoother using the ISO, and you don't need the CD in the drive anymore.
In my example I named the ISO tiecd.iso

Here are the steps:
A. Install DOSBox and ImgBurn
1. Make new folder in C: called 'tiedos' [no quotes]
2. Make new folder in C:\tiedos\ called 'c' [no quotes]
3. Copy or make ISO of Tie Fighter Collectors' CD-ROM in C:\tiedos\ called 'tiecd.iso' [use ImgBurn to build it. will be about 530MB]
Your file structure should be like this now:

c:\tiedos\c\
c:\tiedos\tiecd.iso

4. Add the following lines to the [autoexec] section at the end of the dosbox.conf file [will be available in the DOSBox start menu after install] :

mount c c:\tiedos\c
imgmount d c:\tiedos\tiecd.iso -t iso

5. Run DOSBox
6. Switch to the virtual CD d: by typing 'd:' [no quotes]
7. Type 'install' to install Tie Fighter into your virtual C: [which is actually C:\tiedos\c\ on your actual hard drive]
8. I did a Maximum Install [only 90MB]
9. Select 'C' for the custom Sound Card setup
10. Select Sound Blaster 16, select 220 for the port, and then select 'detect'
11. If you want to use the Windows MIDI or your real Sound card's MIDI select the advanced menu and change the Music to 'General MIDI' [this make a big difference]
12. You may now Quit, Save, & Play the game
13. The next time you start DOSBox
a. Swtich to c: using 'c:'
b. Swithch to tiecd folder using 'cd tiecd'
c. You should now be at the c:\tiecd prompt, type 'tie' to play the game or 'imuse' to set the sound up again
or add the following lines to the [autoexec] section at the end of the dosbox.conf file [below the lines added in step 4 above]

c:
cd tiecd




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EDIT: Changed the title so we can talk about how to get the other games to work also.
Microsoft Virtual PC as mentioned below can be used to run many Windows 95/98 games in XP.