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#729290
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Droids Series Complete Set. Reconstruction from multiple sources. V1.0 is out! (Released)
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http://www.vhscollector.com/

You might want to contact the guy who runs this to see if he knows some people. I'd really recommend contacting as many VHS people/forums/stores as you possibly can to track down theses imperial plans.

Honestly though I hope you can find the missing episodes. I'm not for sure what you'd need to do though. 

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#729287
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Info Wanted: USA Star Wars Marathon episode 4 Pre-SE recording.
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One thing I'd like to comment on the clarity of this recording compared to my old CBS FOX set.

The Biggest difference other then overall quality is during the action scenes and the light saber dual. The flashes of light are far less intrusive and in your face.

The CBS FOX tape has very bad bright flashes flashes that actually hurt to watch. Though this may have been partly since I was watching on a Digital TV and not a CRT at the time. Though the overall issue with flashing is not present in the USA recording I have. 

I'm not for sure if the tape has stereo sound at all. My VHS player only supports RF and composite mono. I'd really love to get a better one some day. Though I really don't know much about sound and VHS. 

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#729278
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Info Wanted: USA Star Wars Marathon episode 4 Pre-SE recording.
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I recently rediscovered a old tape a friend of mine gave me years ago.

It’s a VHS with several recordings on it.

Star Trek The Doomsday Weapon.

Star Wars Episode IV USA Networks Star Wars Trilogy- Pre SE

A english dub recording of Demon City Shinjuku

I think everything else is old MTV recordings of Beavis and Butthead.

I’m not for sure when it was recorded, but it seems to be the Original film since there are no added CGI effects. But isn’t there a Star Wars SE from the late 80’s or am I wrong?

I’m really wondering if any of you know if USA did Star Wars Marathons Annually like Spike does now. Was it uncommon? How rare are Tv recordings of the original films? Does anyone else own any?

The other rareish VHs recording is a old Doctor Who Recording of
The Five Doctors.

What I really want to know is if it’d be viable to transfer this to a digital format. What’s the best way to preserve this. I really wish the recording had commercials to get that TV feel.

If someone else was willing to transfer it for me I’d really appreciate it. I’d gladly mail it to someone who could.

Thanks for any info you can give me on the Tv Broadcasts of Star Wars.

P.S I’ve been looking to upgrade my VHS player. I need one that has component Capabilities. Since Component is the best next to HD HDMI for Analog possible. Does anyone have any recommendations for what to use. I’ve seen people Recommend JVC.

Along with CRT’s I’ve seen most people recommend either. Sony Trinitrons or Professional CRT Sony monitors. Those are mainly for video gaming though. I’m not for sure how they do for say watching films.

I’m asking because I love collecting Old Anime as well as just finding oddities on tape.   If there is a thread on the forum concerning older video formats and TV/CRT discussion I’d love to join the discussion.

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#708762
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ELSTREE 1976 A documentary about ten very different lives connected by having appeared onscreen wearing masks or helmets in Star Wars.
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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/832232974/elstree-1976?ref=home_popular

Check out this AWESOME documentary about the actors who played many of the minor and major roles in the Star Wars films.

The documentary will feature many actors some minor and some major like Prowse. I apologize I do not know many of their names off the top of my head.

David Prowse

Greedo
Bob fett
and more

This is so right up OT's ally as we all care about these people. I always wanted to know the thoughts of the actors who worked in these movies and how they are holding up now. 

I'm so happy to see D.Prowse is doing alright. Sorry, I'm elated for this project!

Thoughts??

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#707612
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KISS: Attack of the Phantoms/Meets the Phantom of the Park Restored project (Released)
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So I've been messing around with color correction!
and what do you know the VHS version is extremely dark and is actually the film version in 4:3. Though for some reason the coloration is off.

I've been experimenting and the intro scene is far clearer and vibrant now. 

Sadly the VHS is full of digital artifacts and or grain. Plus the intro wheel scene has some terrible problems. 

I will upload the intro to the movie with the color correction experimentation. 
Honestly it's merely a test I need to find a good color correction look that is similar to the over all movie, but I'm not for sure how to do this. 

I need to ask around or look at youtube videos. If someone could give me advice that'd be great

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#707393
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KISS: Attack of the Phantoms/Meets the Phantom of the Park Restored project (Released)
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Kiss bad vhs

kiss 480 VHS

DVD

Note this screen caps from a  youtube upload. Not my disc. Once I get the disc transferred through a program it "MIGHT" be sharper, but since it's a DVD from 2006. They might end up identical. I'm hoping for some minor resolution upgrades since it's the DVd and not youtube though. This is a fun learning experince though. I've only burnt music or DVD's never transferred so yeah!

HOLY CRAP! This is interesting.

So it looks like the VHS shares the same how would I put it the sceen is merely cropped/squeezed! but the VHS has more on the bottom as well! 

Holy crap if I would just edit in the bottom of the screen.
I kind of know how to pull this off, but alignment of scenes as well as color correction to balance them out, plus I'm not for sure if aliasing or smoothing would help the VHS footage. As the 480 dvd is WAY sharper.

Not for sure if I'm doing this right, but here's a comparison from the VHSsources. I will need to compare the brightness to the kissology version.

Then see whats removed added and adjust it. Also if it is possible to transfer the VHS version in a higher quality then for the love of starchild do it!

Tell me more about what I need to know about turning 480 into widescreen?

Alongside the restored/recut scenes I want to include the trailer bumper I got from youtube. It's not too high quality but it's decent.  Also will include the Trailer alongside the film.

I'm in the middle of contacting KISS ARMY through facebook to see if anyone owns the VHS station/ Film masters?

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#707389
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KISS: Attack of the Phantoms/Meets the Phantom of the Park Restored project (Released)
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Hi I’m new here.

My name is thorgrim, I often go by that but let’s get down to business.

My experience with editing footage is somewhat limited, but here’s my credentials:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzpQkzTI0Dg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LlKUTohD_w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mupVJS9S4cw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48EntWzH-hU

I have experience editing my newest video is the SW trailer. But I am learning pinnacle studio atm and wanted to make this a fan project/ learning experience. If I do not know something PLEASE consider that I’m still learning this stuff.


KISS: Attack of the PHANTOMS/ Meets the Phantom of the Park!

![](http://image.tmdb.org/t/p/original/u4jyiHToGvo5NWufud6uOj37GF2.jpg)

During their heyday KISS the prolific rock band made a movie. It was so corny and bad they nearly broke up over it.

**_The tale of rock band KISS and their efforts to thwart a diabolical plan by mad scientist Abner Devereaux. Devereaux has found a way to clone humans into robots in his laboratory at an amusement park. It just so happens that he plans to uses the KISS concert as a platform to unleash his plan on the world. KISS must use their special powers to stop him_.**

Film Specs "Theatrical version":

[](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077788/technical?ref_=tt_dt_spec  "www.imdb.com/title/tt0077788/technical?ref_=tt_dt_spec ")[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077788/technical?ref_=tt_dt_spec ](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077788/technical?ref_=tt_dt_spec  "www.imdb.com/title/tt0077788/technical?ref_=tt_dt_spec ")

Imagine a Rock and Roller power rangers, or if you're more versed in movies, a crappy El Santos film with rock stars.

There are "Three" versions of this film technically.

*   The TV/VHS version from america
*   The European version "The Phantom of the Park"
*   And the Final US version which is the European cut with american audio  

  

The issue here is allot of the scenes in the European version are cut or edited out entirely.

I will need to analyze bother version before deciding which is better since some scenes are re-shot entirely from what I'm aware? This leads to a major problem with lines entirely missing and tonal changes with the music used in select scenes. 

Here are some of the changes. Via IMDB   

The Spanish/American version of "KISS Meets The Phantom of the Park" (usually known as "Attack of the Phantoms") has totally different editing. Many various scenes/elements not in the US version (while many in the US version are not in the Spanish version). Among of the differences are:</span>

*   Devereaux's Civil War robots are seen attacking the security guard's office.
*   Calvin and Devereaux have a discussion on the Magic Mountain monorail and continue it as they get off the ride.
*   There are additional live shots of KISS, including some from overhead, including one where you can clearly see a cameraman on stage.
*   KISS' promotional videos from 1979, "I Was Made For Loving You" and "Sure Know Something," from their "Dynasty" album, are inserted in the movie as live concert performances, despite the completely different costumes and staging from the previous shot before the songs begin.
*   The entire movie uses different music, especially a lot of KISS solo album music, and even a little bit of an instrumental of KISS' "Almost Human."
*   Paul Stanley shoots Sam's remote control with his eye laser. In the US version, he simply takes it out of Sam's skin with his hand.
*   There are additional shots during most of the KISS fight scenes, as well as many quick scenes throughout the film. Just one example of many, the guy staring at Melissa at the snack bar wipes the table with his hand, while in the US version he does not.
*   This version ends with a shot of Devereaux walking in the park (the scene after Calvin fired him) and then going into the credits which scroll, while the US version ends with KISS performing "God of Thunder."

Now another major issue in the later american and european release is the fact that 'The Spaceman's/Frehley's" Lines are either very minor or entirely cut out of the movie. Due to them mainly being uber cheesy or poorly dubbed. 

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My Goal is to one try to fix up the VHS footage as much as possible and recut into the european release cut lines or reworked music. The DVD of "AOTP" Is 720p so we're good there. The VHS transfers so far are very low quality and pixelated sadly. Though out of the two video sources I have There is one that's at 480p to some extent, with VHS color problems though. also Brightness. What can I do to clean this up?

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If ANYONE can get a VHS copy and somehow try to transfer it properly. 

I'm not aware if vhs's can be cleaned up or not.  Thanks if you can as most sources for the VHS I've looked into are quite bad. Watchable but bad.

The next major issue is transferring the TV/VHS footage to the europeans widescreen/ letter box. They're about the same footage wise barely any from cuts from what I've seen. But the Tv/VHS version is fairly scrunched. 

![](http://image.tmdb.org/t/p/original/jgvU1BkzFJqcb2XO4SozMeTNnUz.jpg)

  Posters!: [](http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/39704-kiss-meets-the-phantom-of-the-park/posters "www.themoviedb.org/movie/39704-kiss-meets-the-phantom-of-the-park/posters")[http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/39704-kiss-meets-the-phantom-of-the-park/posters](http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/39704-kiss-meets-the-phantom-of-the-park/posters "www.themoviedb.org/movie/39704-kiss-meets-the-phantom-of-the-park/posters")

A short review of the Stage Play Version!

[](http://kissfansite.yuku.com/topic/10119/Kiss-meets-the-Phantom-of-the-Park-Play-REVIEW#.U4IGDPkwf0s  "kissfansite.yuku.com/topic/10119/Kiss-meets-the-Phantom-of-the-Park-Play-REVIEW#.U4IGDPkwf0s ")[http://kissfansite.yuku.com/topic/10119/Kiss-meets-the-Phantom-of-the-Park-Play-REVIEW#.U4IGDPkwf0s ](http://kissfansite.yuku.com/topic/10119/Kiss-meets-the-Phantom-of-the-Park-Play-REVIEW#.U4IGDPkwf0s  "kissfansite.yuku.com/topic/10119/Kiss-meets-the-Phantom-of-the-Park-Play-REVIEW#.U4IGDPkwf0s ")

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Apparently you can buy a DVD version of the original TV/VHS version.

As kissology vol.2 has the European release. As do have the kissology vol.2\. I do not own this other DVD. I'm not very well versed in how Videos are transferred to digital format beyond some DVD stuff..

[](http://www.fye.com/s/product/2546083/Kiss-Meets-the-Phantom-of-the-Park#.U4IJffkwf0s "www.fye.com/s/product/2546083/Kiss-Meets-the-Phantom-of-the-Park#.U4IJffkwf0s")[http://www.fye.com/s/product/2546083/Kiss-Meets-the-Phantom-of-the-Park#.U4IJffkwf0s](http://www.fye.com/s/product/2546083/Kiss-Meets-the-Phantom-of-the-Park#.U4IJffkwf0s "www.fye.com/s/product/2546083/Kiss-Meets-the-Phantom-of-the-Park#.U4IJffkwf0s")

[](http://www.raredvds.biz/mobile/Product.aspx?ProductCode=kiss_meets_phantom "www.raredvds.biz/mobile/Product.aspx?ProductCode=kiss_meets_phantom")[http://www.raredvds.biz/mobile/Product.aspx?ProductCode=kiss_meets_phantom](http://www.raredvds.biz/mobile/Product.aspx?ProductCode=kiss_meets_phantom "www.raredvds.biz/mobile/Product.aspx?ProductCode=kiss_meets_phantom")<

If someone was willing to buy this for like 7 dollars to help me out. This may very well be the best quality version available for the original broadcast MtPOTP. I will look into it further though.

I would love to see if this video source is any good compared to the film version on kissology vol.2?

This version seems to merely be a bootleg. NVM

Please Leave advice below.
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#707365
Topic
Army of Darkness - The Primitive Screwhead Edition (Released)
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http://www.amazon.de/Die-Armee-Finsternis-Ultimate-Blu-rays/dp/B00BGSI408/ref=sr_1_1/275-6666430-2723131?ie=UTF8&qid=1401006406&sr=8-1&keywords=4020628914622

They're running out of copies so I hope someone can get it and see if there's any differences and such sorry for bumping a dead thread, but I felt that this version was somewhat important. Here's a google translated review. 

"The movie of course I know by heart, but I had to retaliate for this publication. At first the positive points: The picture is really very good. Also comes in true HD feeling! The new scenes in the Director's Cut, which was not available in HD difficult to spot and were integrated very clean and without tone jumps in the film. In other forums was, however, complained that the image partially full of dirt which is strong film grain and sometimes even flicker. course you should not expect any picture of current blockbusters and all erhlich belongs film grain is not it?! Who wants a smooth ironed picture with wax faces? Due to the higher resolution the film grain is now even stronger than DVD's Great contamination could I now, however, is unable to identify, but would not really bother me. although the sound is only in DD 2.0 before, but it is quite clear, noise-free and easy to understand.To me it is enough as it is. The extras are very short, but very informative and interesting, especially the Booklett. too, the preparation for the box has become very beautiful, but I would have rather have a box like in THE RAID desired ;) However, there are also two negative points: The audio commentary is not subtitled German. The picture on the box has been (as with many others) unfortunately glued wrong. Since Koch Media would really be better to watch it. But unfortunately deducted a star. Trotzder two defects a very gelungende publication, whether the DVD's now no need or ...."

Sadly one review said the picture quality was bad, while this one said it had too much grain. Though it seems this might only be for the DVD versions? Still I'd be happy if someone would take a look since this compilation is unique.