For Luke to show such drastic behavior of murdering his nephew in his sleep I would have thought the vision he witnessed was something very personal to him. What I would have like to have seen in Luke’s vision is Kylo killing someone he loved deeply like his wife such as Mara Jade or a daughter. I feel having this personal connection of someone he loved deeply would have been enough of motivation for him wanting to murder his only nephew in his sleep.
I vote for option 2…
Ok, I think THIS is my suggestion for a crawl?
The Rise of Skywalker
‘The Resistance rises! Luke Skywalker’s sacrifice at the battle of Crait has reignited the spark of hope across the galaxy and hundreds more freedom fighters have joined in the fight against the tyranical FIRST ORDER and their new Supreme Leader, KYLO REN.
REY, the last of the Jedi lineage, continues her training under the guidance of GENERAL LEIA ORGANA, and attempts to communicate with the great Jedi from the past, hoping that their wisdom will help her during the confrontation to come.
Meanwhile, KYLO REN leads an assault on MUSTAFAR, in search of an artefact that will guide him to the source of a mysterious presence that offers a dark alliance, one that will help him crush his enemies once and for all…’
I like this a lot.
hey poppasketti, have you seen the edit Chase Adam’s is doing with changing the “parking on the beach” scene in Canto Bite to something less comical. Is this something you would consider for the V3 if the change looks good?
Well, BB8 is thrown out of the casino so maybe there is a strict “no droids” policy in the casino’s in Canto Bite and it’s enough of an offence to send them to jail.
Hmm, maybe that idea is just as dumb as a parking ticket lol!
I agree with StarkillerAG. Have the two versions only, no need to overcomplicate it.
I would also like to see the Luke Matrix removed as a Non-Palpstine edit.
Excellent work on the changes and looking forward to the release of V3.
Here was the change I mentioned from Hal’s thread with The Matrix Luke shot.
TiMartyn’s clip, 5:05 mark. https://youtu.be/S15MehypNpo
Would really love to see this done in your version too!
This is much better.
Every time I watch these edits I pretend to be the audience watching it for first time. It’s kind of “if you blink you will miss it” which is great because it makes the movie an enigma. If this had been in theatrical release I could imagine much discussion afterwards with some people noticing theses small details and other’s missing it.
For me, the subtle works brilliantly. I’m not finding it distracting at all and it’s just another mystery surrounding the build-up to the next movie. As others have said I would also like to see how Snokes eyes look going straight back to blue after turning “Sith” yellow.
Did you still have plans for the showing hints that Palpatine is controlling Snoke when he his sliced in half? Suggestions have been showing Snoke with dark side yellow eyes and a blue essence leaving his body.
4E is my favorite so far.
First off, super impressed how fast you are getting these sample edits out…well done.
For me personally, I feel the force connection between Rey and Kylo at the ends needs to stay as it’s a critical setup for TROS and really just a great scene overall and would hate to see it removed. So, I feel 4A is best the option to incorporate in V3.
However, the fact that Palpatine says “I have been the voices in your head” in TROS I kinda like the idea of 4C as well as we are hearing Palpatine voice in Kylo’s mind. Tough choice! I would happy with either 4A or 4C as they both include the Force connection.
I’ve been thinking about the cave scene and the reveal of Rey’s parent. I personally believe it will be better to leave the scene as is and not incorporate the hood silohoutte and this why.
Rey went into the cave to reveal her parents so why would the cave show her grandparent (Palpatine)? She even says “show me my parents” in the cave
The vibe I’m getting is there will be two edit types of TROS. One version will the keep Palpatine as Rey’s grandfather and the other version will keep Rey as a nobody. By having Palpatine’s reveal as Rey’s grandfather in Poppa’s TLJ edit then you only get one choice of the version of TROS to watch. So if you prefer Poppa’s TLJ edit but would prefer Rey to be a nobody in TROS then it does not flow (however, this could just be my OCD kicking in!).
My interpration of the scene is the cave purposely did not show Rey her parents because it was trying give her more reason to go to the dark side as she desperately wants to find her parents. She even force reaches out to Kylo Ren because of this. I think the scene work as is.
With all the Palpatine return clues being incorporated into V3 such as Palpatines laugh in the Luke/Kylo flashback, Snoke’s eyes turning yellow after he is cut in half and the radio broadcast I personally don’t think the hood silhouette is needed in the cave scene.
All good points, but the fact Kylo and Rey is showing a force connection after Snoke is dead (as we are lead to believe Snoke was manipulating this bond) is important to the audience going into TROS. The force connection between Kylo and Rey is still occurring in TROS and really the only major thing JJ did not retcon from TLJ in TROS.
I just think it could be confusing in TROS as to why they still have this Force connection if the scene of Kylo and Rey still showing they have force connection at the end of TLJ is removed.
It’s one of the reasons I’m thinking of keeping V2 for those that would prefer not to have the extra Palpatine stuff (or at least not this scene).
It appears you will not please everyone with teasing Palpatine’s return in TLJ so think this is the best option. Have a Rekindled: Classic (V2) and Rekindled:Palpatine Returns (V3).
I personally like the radio broadcast and see no reason the Kylo and Rey force connection can’t stay. I think the scene works well.
If the ending of the broom boy scene is removed does this now mean the scene of Finn and Rose in Canto Bight where we see broom boy being whipped is now obsolete?
This was only added in poppa V2 edit to give more context to broom boy. If the broom boy is removed at the end at the movie then the scene is pointless. The scene does give a bit more background on Rose backstory so maybe broom boy could be removed it possible.
I think the ideas in this thread are brilliant, but I really don’t think the audio broadcast at the end of TLJ works. It’s too cartoony and forced to have Palpatine speak through a random radio at the very climax of two important characters interactions.
I disagree, the way I interpret it is Palpatine has sensed Luke has died and decided to come out of hiding. He would be keeping track of Kylo through the force and is able to communicate to him through the radio. Also, considering all the other “cartoony” moments we get in the ST movies I think most ppl watching this scene would find it acceptable as a subtle way of teasing Palpatines return.
What do you think about the idea of a spiritual essence leaving Snoke’s body after it’s cut in half?
For this reveal to play out in TLJ naturally I think there has to be a build up, sprinkling strong hints throughout the film of a Snoke/Palpatine and Rey/Palpatine connection would go along way, this can be done by adding the blue smoke from ROTJ as Snoke gets cut in half, also hinting at Rey’s sinister ancestry in the cave scene could be done by playing the Sith whispers from TPM as a hooded silhouette stares back at her in the mirror.
I agree, it would be great to have other clues scattered around TLJ for Palpatines return in IX.
Great work as usual. I like it a lot. Have you played around with the Fortnite broadcast audio in this scene?
Anyone wondering what the broadcast from Palpatine sounds like here is the transmission. Its about 25 seconds. Not sure if you need to cut any of it but it may too long for the scene
Could the broadcast be incorporated in the scene where Kylo is on his knees. Have the broadcast play in the background? The music could be change to use a subtle Imperial March theme.
For TROS, I want to look at hinting at Palpatine a couple of times after the battle of Crait ends, either using the radio or end credits (or both). I think that’s precisely what was always missing from the end of TLJ, because the way it ended left nothing to anticipate for TROS.
My personal preference would be to have the message from the Palpatine audio from Fortnite used in a radio broadcast in the Battle of Crait after Luke dies. If possible, have it appear that only Kylo Ren hears the broadcast.
Yeah I think that makes sense. Luke’s gone, Kylo-Ren is in charge of the First Order, the Resistance nearly crushed, and he figures everyone else will fall in line. His big comeback also attract Rey, who will either replace him or restore his power (when he drains her and Ren).
Execute Order…Final Order…shit, cut! Can we go again?
OK, so an idea if you decide to do a TLJ V3 edit. After Luke dies on Achto and Kylo is holding the fake dice the transmission from Palpatine is heard in the background on the radio. Palpatine has sensed Luke has died and is ready to come out of hiding. If there are any other clues through out the movie that Snoke is a puppet of Palps such as his essence leaving his body when he is cut in half etc.
By having Palps transmission in TLJ do we still need to have Kylo finding Palps at the end of the movie as the movie now ends with knowing Palp’s will be in the Episode 9? If he does, then I was thinking the beginning scene of Kylo finding the Sith Wayfarer could be a flashback in Episode9.
This Fortnite tie-in is nuts. I wonder if we’ll be able to get a clean recording. Would be nice to have options for how to use it.
The idea of having Palpatine on the radio in the battle of Crait is a great idea…I just wonder if we could expand the idea of using the Palpatine transmission audio from Fortnite instead of just the laugh.
Let’s hope they have Extended Edition available similar to BvS that will fill in the plot holes. The extended version of BvS fixed this movie for a lot of ppl including me. Ironically, TROS has the same writer as BvS which seems to follow the same beats with critical scenes missing from the movie.