smudger9

I’m working on it at the moment.

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-New-Republic-EP6-Skeleton-Crew-Edit-WIP/id/124827

sgscobie said:

The show is particularly dark visually. Do you plan on lighting it at all?

No plans for that. Coloring and lighting changes are something I have absolutely zero experience with and would probably end up looking worse in my hands.

Jar Jar Bricks said:

I still stand by what I said last week - despite most of the internet seemingly liking last week’s character episode, I think you could genuinely cut most of it out.

As for this week’s episode, I think the back-and-forth about throwing Jod out the airlock could be significantly trimmed, namely just by having the kids show up in their ship sooner.

I do wonder, at this point, if the parent scenes were very necessary, seeing as how their message is deployed only within At-Attin’s vicinity, and isn’t at all necessary for them to get back home. Removing those scenes might make transitions within the main story harder, but you’d also be able to include more scenes that were previously removed, such as the one between Jod and Wim in hyperspace, or keep the runtime closer to 2 hours 30 minutes since I think it will be closer to 3 hours at this rate.

I agree about last week’s episode and it would have been very easy to cut virtually all of it………. if it wasn’t for the Onyx Cinder’s metamorphosis and elevation to a major plot point. The escape from the trash machine needs to be included and there isn’t enough footage between the kids reuniting and discovering their ship to cut everything else without it feeling jarring. I hate it when they mess around with the main starship, it really limits editing options - I had the same issue with Mando Season 2.

I wasn’t keen on this week’s episode either and it basically relegated the B plot of the parents on At Attin as irrelevant. But as you say, without those scenes scattered throughout the edit there will be too many jumps in the main plot. As always with these edits it’s a tough balance between runtime and pacing. I generally go for a better paced edit at the expense of a longer runtime.

At lest the last 2 episodes have been short!

I finally had time to sit down and go through last week’s episode. Essentially 3 significant things happen.

1. The Crew find the Pirate Lair.
2. Brutus finds out where they are.
3. Jod Betrays the kids.

So what I’ve done is:

• Split the AT-Attin scene in two. The first part is the spacer between episodes 4 and 5 and the second occurs whilst the crew are in hyperspace en route to Lana.
• By splitting that scene I’ve been able to cut the in-hyperspace scenes aboard the Onyx… they don’t add anything to the story.
• Trimmed the approach to Lanupa and the crew walking through the spa to reception.
• Pokitt is kept since she alerts Brutus.
• The scene in the spa hotel room is cut… the crew go from the reception to the Spa with the Pokitt-Brutus scene acting as the spacer. The only issue with this is losing SM-33’s reveal of the Rennod’s symbol, but I think it works to assume it was discussed off screen - once I have my Final Cut I will try to add some SM-33 dialogue to help solve the issue.
• Removed the security guard chase and Cthallops - the edit plays out as follows… Fern/Wim/SM-33 at the mud baths following the pipe, then Jod/KB/Neel looking for the symbol, then cut to Fern/Wim/SM-33 finding the symbol, then cut to the pirates arriving and then cut to the crew at the entrance to Rennod’s lair.
• The rest of the episode then plays out with just minor trimming.

Overall I used just 14 out of the 37 mins of footage. Time is getting tight though… I’m at 1h 51 mins after 5 episodes. I really need this week’s episode to be a lot of filler!

Jar Jar Bricks said:

Sounds good to me! Although if I recall correctly Yod was questioning where exactly they were as they enter the Fallen Sanctum, so perhaps SM-33 should only refer to it as such.

He asks who lives there. Neel tells him it’s the supervisor’s tower on At-Attin.

I worked on episode 4 last night. The clans portion was much shorter than I thought, which has left 12 minutes. I like this as it gives a slower pace to the second act. Runtime is 1h 27 for the first 4 episodes. I’m going to be relying on a bit of filler in the next 2 episodes!

The cut I’ve done is as follows.

Arrive on At-Achrann - I have cut the autopilot landing.
The Crew exit the ship and Jod is ordered to stay behind with SM-33.
I have then re-arranged the scenes as follows:
The crew encounter the statue - the 2 hiding clan kids have been cut. The scene runs to the last frame before the missile appears.
Then the “thief” scene with Jod and SM-33.
Then the Crew enter the house. At the end of the scene I’ll use Neel AI dialog to say “We should go back and get SM-33” or something to that effect.
Then cut to Jod coaxing SM-33 down the ramp. I’ll use some AI dialogue here to focus the discussion on the tower not the warriors.
[One of the upcoming scenes of the parents on At-Attin will be inserted here as a spacer]
Then cut to the team entering the tower. The scene plays out pretty much in full. References to the clan and the battle have been cut.

Jar Jar Bricks said:

I do have a pretty good idea of what to do, though. We can’t see Neel’s mouth because of his trunk. Replace Neel’s final line in the destroyed house:

“Maybe you shouldn’t be touching that” -> “Let’s go get Yod from the ship”

Then we do the scene with Yod and SM-33. Then go back to the parents (perhaps a scene from a later episode). And then we transition to them entering the Fallen Sanctum. The dialogue here is perfect so the audience isn’t confused:

Yod: “So, who exactly lives here now?”

Neel: “On our planet, this is the Supervisor’s Tower.”

The only problem is that Yod now has their credits and hasn’t given them away. Unless he completely murdered those warriors earlier and didn’t actually give it up.

I’m working on a similar train of thought. My plan is for them to meet the 2 children and the girl directs them to the tower, there is a shot of Neel looking at KB and Fern inside the wrecked school “bus” where a Neill line could be added.

I feel like someone needs to direct them to the tower.

That would trim the episode down to 13mins, bringing the total to 1h 27 after 4 episodes.

https://youtu.be/f19gfOMZTtg?si=emKYFhVDtNXE2dkR

This trailer at 1:27… 2 scenes intercut. And at 1:49 the kids receive a hologram from Fern’s mum.

I’m sure there will be more.

Jar Jar Bricks said:

Which trailers are you referring to? Just curious. The reason why I was insistent on deleting all parent scenes previously is because I wasn’t aware of the potential for this being an actual plot thread later on. Maybe there will be an entire episode entirely focusing on their perspective?

This is where is gets difficult to edit as we go. What I generally do is edit the setup first and then the finale. I then go back to the middle episodes and pick up the necessary threads.

I doubt it, but it is a possibility that this entire episode could be cut. We’ll have to wait and see. I agree with you guys, the clan needs to be removed. We just need to keep the scenes of the crew looking around the houses and then going to the tower. There are 2 challenges here…. Jod and SM-33 being left on the ship and the trigger for them heading to the tower.
I’ll have to play around with it this evening, but there may be an option to edit it without Jod and SM-33 being left on the ship, but it may seem obvious that they aren’t present when the kids are looking around the house. If that isn’t possible then it may be a challenge to reunite them without the clans being included.
The tower trigger could be solved with AI dialogue for one of the kids or from Jod.
I was also surprised by the lack of any parent scenes on At-Attin. We know there are more to come from the trailers. It would really help the editing of this episode to have a scene or two on At-Attin to fill in the editing gaps.

I’ve completed my edit of the first three episodes in SD 5.1 audio. It’s clocking in at 1h 16 including crawl and logos. If anyone wants to check it out DM me. Here is a detailed list of changes.

Logos
Opening crawl with New Republic logo. [2 mins]

Episode 1: [41mins cut to 29mins]
Cut opening pirate scene.
Cut Wim going back into his room for his coat.
Cut Neel getting something in his eye as he roleplays with Wim.
Trim schoolbus journey.
Cut Runa talking about being an accountant.
Cut Neel talking to Wim about Runa.
Trim pause before Neel says “like what”
Cut Fern’s speeder breaking down.
Cut Wim and Neel walking home.
Cut KB trying to repair the bike.
Cut the scene where Fern and her mum interact.
The sequence in the edit is Neel saying “like what” with a hard cut to Fern and KB on their speeder to the point where Fern says “wasn’t that great?” and a hard cut to Wim studying in his bedroom.
Cut Wim looking at the shapes dangling from his ceiling whilst he is in bed.
Trim sequence of WIm taking the short cut on his bike.
Edit Wim’s bike journey and discovery of the hatch into one sequence. He finds the hatch before we cut to Neel in the exam hall.
Cut Neel’s interaction with the droid in the exam hall.
Cut Wim “how much longer” and the safety droid “the proctor will see you shortly”.
Slight trimming of the Wim-Fern scene outside the proctors office to remove overly long pauses.
Cut Wim asking Neel’s siblings where he is and the Neel bath scene. We transition from Wim walking away from Fern to Wim and Neel opening the garage door.
Cut Neel “what should my callsign be” - it is edited as though the Jedi 1-Jedi 2 callsigns are well established between Neel and Wim.
Cut the “claimsies” interaction.
Trim the Wim-Neel digging scene to remove reference to “claimsies”.
Cut Ferm “I bet there is an old power converter in there” - the speeder breakdown has been cut, so this line is no longer relevant.
Cut Wim “what’s she duping” [talking about KB] and Fern “quiet”.
Cut Wim “this is so great”…… it’s exciting…. we’re exploring”
Cut Wim shouting “my own jedi Temple” and the jump scare when sees his reflection.
Cut Wim pressing the green button. We know he does it and it works better not seeing him do it.
Cut Wim slipping when the crew are pulling him up to the hatch.

Episode 2: [24mins cut to 19mins]
Cut KB “if that was hyperspace we could be really far away”
Cut Ferm “but its true” and “right” to SM-33
Shorten long pause between SM-33 saying “stowaways” and “captain”
Cut SM-33 searching through his databanks for At-Attin.
Cut Neel “Wim… we’re in hyperspace”.
Trim ship\s approach to the pirate port.
Cut the crew paying the ferry pilot and Wim hiding his credits.
Cut KB and Fern exploring the port and their interaction with the hooker.
Cut one shot of the Wim and Neel running defence.
Trim SM-33’s approach to defend the crew.
Cut Ferm “I’m not leaving without KB…… and the boys”.
Cut the SM-33 - Fern back-and-forth about whether they are pirates.
Cut KB talking about the legend of At-Attin’s treasure.
Trim Yod’s approach.

Episode 3: [31mins cut to 25mins]
Opening scene with the parents is moved to when the Crew are un hyperspace on their way to the moon.
Cut Yod “it’s easier to hide in a crowd than an empty corridor” and the crew walking through the port.
It’s edited so that Fern chooses to go the quiet way and we cut to the crew on the ferry ship - implying that they went the quiet way.
Cut Fern “I though the jedi never left a man behind” and Yod “Thats not a thing… the jedi say”.
Cut Yod switching on the CZ droid.
Cut Yod encountering his old shipmate.
Cut Fern “like really good string”
Massively trim the crew’s walk across the moon including the chat about back stabbing.
Cut final scene where the X-wing pilots interact with the owl.

Jar Jar Bricks said:

Those are all good changes. 👍

Let’s say the next 3 episodes trimmed down add up to about 1 hour and 15 minutes as well for a total of 2 hours and 30 minutes, won’t that be an issue with 2 whole episodes left? Idk, maybe there will be some filler episodes like there was for The Acolyte, but that was mostly due to them showing the same events from different perspectives. I kind doubt that will be the case here.

Runtime might be an issue at the current rate, but the first episode had a longer runtime.

What tends to happen is the first two or three episodes and the last two episodes contain the core plot and the middle episodes are more filler. Let’s see what happens.

Jar Jar Bricks said:

Yeah, after seeing Episode 3 I think it’s best to remove it. I wasn’t sure if they were going to immediately reveal his true identity or not, but since they’re dragging it on for so long it’s probably best to at least make him somewhat mysterious.

From this episode specifically, you could easily remove the following:

• The intro scene since it serves no purpose
• The kids and Jude Law going BACK through the pirates to reach the shuttle. Just cut shortly after he mentions the unguarded tunnel or something. This feels like Obi-Wan hiding Leia under his cloak all over again, because there shouldn’t be ANY children in the pirate base, and they should all kinda know that the only kids there are supposed to be in prison. Makes his character seem like an idiot.
• All of Jude Law’s scenes when he goes back to retrieve the droid - this way we don’t learn his true pirate nature from the goon that catches him. Plus, all of his action scenes here were cut (or never filmed), anyways.
• The scene where the owl lady calls in the X-Wings. This way we discover what she did at the same time as Jude Law’s character.

That’s just what came to me immediately after seeing the episode. I’m sure there would be more.

I spent this afternoon editing episode 3, and here’s what I’ve done:

1. I kept the opening scene but moved it to where the crew is traveling to the moon. The events on At Attin will form the B-plot of the series and will likely be crucial in the crew finding their way back. I plan to intersperse scenes focused on the parents as they uncover the planet’s secrets throughout the A-plot.

2. I agree that the crew’s escape is similar to the Fortress Inquisitorius sequence in Kenobi. I’ve incorporated Yod offering the characters two options - the “quiet way” or the “busy way.” Fern chooses the quiet way, and KB warns them of an approaching guard. Fern then jokes that KB must be a Jedi, and Yod says the Force resides in everyone, leading to a cut to the characters on the ferrycraft, implying they took the quiet route.

3. I’ve kept the scene of Yod finding SM33 but only until Yod says, “I’ll take that as a yes then.” I used a reverse shot of Yod activating SM33 to make the cut work better, and I’ve removed the Ishi Tib pirate.

4. I’ve cut the SM-33 - Yod scene back on the ship, as it didn’t add much.

5. I’ve removed the Owl contacting the New Republic.

6. I’ve made a few other minor adjustments to tighten the pacing, most notably the escape from the fuel line.

The first three episodes now clock in at 1 hour and 15 minutes.

stevepaynter said:

I personally think the the pirate opening should stay as you may be removing a large part of the plot of the movie.

We’ll see as the series unfolds. My feeling is that removing it will enhance the plot.

Here is the thread discussing my Skeleton Crew Movie Edit.

It is a single movie weighing in at 2h 50 mins, is presenting as a classical Star Wars movie and covers the whole of the season.

“In the aftermath of the
EMPIRE’s collapse, peace
has been restored by the NEW
REPUBLIC. But due to its
limited resources lawlessness
has taken root in the OUTER
RIM.

Amidst the chaos crews of
PIRATES, bound by an
unyielding code and led by
daring captains, vie for
dominance over the galaxy’s
most lucrative trade routes.

Driven by the legend of AT-
ATTIN, a mythical world of
eternal treasure, they unleash
mayhem in their quest for the
galaxy’s most coveted prize.
Cold, hard credits….”

Goals of the Edit:

• Present it in a classical Star Wars movie format - Opening crawl, opening pan shot, wipe transitions, iris out to credits.
• Stick to a three-act structure with a slower-paced middle act.
• Focus on Wim as the primary protagonist.
• Fern is framed as the secondary protagonist, with Neel and KB supporting characters.
• Removal of the deal between Jod and the kids. They stay together because of mutual benefit, rather than having a formal deal.
• Alter Jod’s character arc so that his betrayal of the children is very much an act of last resort.
• Remove the civil war plot on At-Acrin.
• Retain the parents’ B-plot as it provides essential spacer sequences for the A plot.
• Trim any fat to protect the runtime, but not at the expense of the pacing.

Specific changes

Logos
Opening crawl with Star Wars logo

“In the aftermath of the
EMPIRE’s collapse, peace
has been restored by the NEW
REPUBLIC. But due to its
limited resources lawlessness
has taken root in the OUTER
RIM.

Amidst the chaos crews of
PIRATES, bound by an
unyielding code and led by
daring captains, vie for
dominance over the galaxy’s
most lucrative trade routes.

Driven by the legend of AT-
ATTIN, a mythical world of
eternal treasure, they unleash
mayhem in their quest for the
galaxy’s most coveted prize.
Cold, hard credits….”

Episode 1: [41mins cut to 31mins]
Pan down to New Republic vessel using music from “Galaxy’s worst boarding party” to extend the opening crawl music.
Cut Pirates running through the boarding tubes to add suspense.
Cut the external part of the battle where the New Republic ship destroys a boarding tube.
Cut the pirates rounding up passengers - kills the pacing of the scene.
Wipe from opening scene to external shot of an At-Attin street (it’s a repurposed shot of Fern’s house, but works well as Wim’s street). Cut to Wim and his cereal with a sound J-cut.
Cut Neel getting something in his eye - I have given Neel’s character a slighter tougher tone.
Trim school bus journey.
Cut Runa’s answer and Neel staring at her - the Neel-Runa plot goes nowhere, especially given that Hena has also been cut.
Cut Wim mentioning his dad’s job.
Cut Neel and Wim talking about Runa.
Reduce the pause before Neel says “like what?”
Cut Fern’s speeder breaking down.
Cut Wim and Neel walking home.
Cut Fern and KB fixing their speeder.
Cut Wim and Neel walking home.
Cut scene of Fern at home with her mum.
In the edit we transition from Fern and KB speeding through town to Wim studying. This cut provides a great juxtaposition for the life Wim wants and the life he currently has, which is the driving force for the whole movie.
Cut Wim’s dad “bedtime stories, aren’t you a bit old for that?”
Cut Wim looking at the toy starships on his ceiling - the relevant focus here is his obsession with jedi stories.
Trim Wim’s speeder journey to the ravine.
Restructure the “taking a shortcut” sequence so that Wim discovers the buried ship before we cut to Neel in the exam hall.
Trim time Wim spends looking around the ravine.
Cut Neel talking to the droid in the exam hall.
Cut Wim “how much longer?”
Cut droid “the proctor will be with you shortly”.
Cut long pause during Fern/Wim conversation outside the proctor’s office.
Cut Wim calling at Neel’s house - we transition from Wim walking away from Fern to Wim and Neel opening the garage door.
Cut Neel asking what his com sign should be. It’s edited so that Jedi 1 and Jedi 2 are established call signs which cements them as best friends and Jedi-obsessed.
Cut Wim “this is mine”.
Cut Wim & Neel talking about calling claimsies for the inside of the ship - they never do and I wanted to reduce the claimsies references.
Cut Fern talking about a power converter - her broken speeder has been cut.
Cut Wim “what’s she doing?” And Fern “Quiet”.
Trim crew looking inside the ship before entering.
Cut Fern “and he did it anyway”.
Trim crew banging on the door after it closes.
Cut Wim “this is so great, it’s exciting, we’re exploring”.
Cut Fern “listen, all we’ve got to do is find the power before we run out of air”.
Cut Wim walking around the ship alone.
Cut Wim pressing the button - works better if we don’t see him do it.
Trim sequence where Wim nearly falls out of the ship, otherwise the taking off sequence feels too long.
Cut Neel “is that the barrier?” - unnecessary exposition.

Episode 2: [24mins cut to 17mins]
Trim hyperspace screaming - makes it less comical.
Cut KB “if that was hyperspace we could be really far away”
Cut Wim “what is that” and trim SM-33’s approach.
Cut Ferm “but it’s true” and “right” to SM-33.
Shorten long pause between SM-33 saying “stowaways” and “captain”.
Cut SM-33 searching through his databanks for At-Attin.
Cut rat running out of SM-33’s eye hole.
Cut Wim “it’s not all my fault”.
Cut SM-33 “shall I throw him out of the airlock for insolence captain”.
Remove safety droid “what was that…. Primitive life form… scans normal’ and replace with ambiance - creates a better transition.
Cut Wim and Neel exploring the ship - I really like this scene, but ultimately it isn’t needed for story or pacing.
Trim approach to Port Bogo.
Cut the crew paying the ferry pilot and Wim hiding his credits.
Cut KB and Fern exploring the port and their interactions with the hooker.
Trim Soup serving.
Cut Neel “his dad gave it to him for lunch money”
Cut the shot of Wim and Neel running where they are going really slowly.
Trim SM-33’s approach to defend the crew.
Cut Fern “I’m not leaving without KB…… and the boys”.
Cut the SM-33 - Fern back-and-forth about whether they are pirates.
Cut Fern shouting at Brutus - way too bratty.
Trim the rat-key sequence.
Cut KB talking about the legend of At-Attin’s treasure.
Trim Jod’s approach.

Episode 3: [31mins cut to 23mins]
Opening scene with the parents is placed during the crew’s journey from Kh’ymm’s observatory to At-Acrin.
Cut Jod “it’s easier to hide in a crowd than an empty corridor” and the crew walking through the port.
It’s edited so that Fern chooses to go the quiet way with a hard cut (after Jod says “the force resides in us all”) to the crew on the ferry ship - implying that they went the quiet way.
Cut Fern “I thought the jedi never left a man behind” and Yod “Thats not a thing… the jedi say”.
Cut Jod “you stay here, where it’s safe”.
Cut Jod switching on the CZ droid.
Cut Jod encountering his old shipmate.
Cut Fern “like really good string”
The Port Bogo escape sequence is tightened significantly.
Cut Jod “ok, I’ll try to snap it” and “I have an idea”.
Cut Neel “sir, look out for the…”
Trim the port escape sequence.
Cut Brutus “and those pups”.
Trim Jod eating soup.
Cut Scene where SM-33 threatens Jod.
Cut Neel feeding the rat.
The scene where Jod looks through Wim’s bag from episode 4 is added here to occur whilst the children are asleep - The editing of Episode 4 meant it had to be moved and here was the best place as it adds to the passage of time for their hyperspace journey.
Trim Approach to the moon.
Trim walk to the observatory and cut chat about back-stabbing. Kh’ymm’s betrayal doesn’t need foreshadowing and I much prefer the observatory to feel like a sanctuary as it allows us to focus on the most important exposition scene of the movie.
Cut Yod “they’re from At-Attin.
Cut Kh’ymm’s warning to the children about Jod.
Cut Jod “I told you she was a back-stabber”.
Cut scene where the children stop Jod from entering the ship and they agree to a partnership. The deal and partnership have been removed so that Jod’s betrayal is less telegraphed.
Cut reference to SM-33 during the moon escape.
Cut Yod “once we see daylight we’re gone” and “hands off”.
Cut final scene where the X-wing pilots land and chat with Kh’ymm.
The Parents’ scene is moved to this point to create a spacer scene for the crew’s journey through hyperspace.

Episode 4: [30mins cut to 11mins including the scenes inserted from Episode 5]
Cut Jod “Yes captain Fern, I’m so sorry”.
Cut autopilot landing sequence.
Cut sound of explosion as the crew get off the ship.
Cut Fern ordering Jod to remain on the ship and SM-33’s “baby” dialogue.
Cut Wim “Ew, gross”.
Cut scenes with SM-33 and Jod on the ship - it’s implied that they leave the ship with the kids but lag behind.
The whole civil was plot has been removed.
The barrier access code scene on At-Attin has been split into 2 parts and used as the spacers between the different At-Acrin scenes.
Cut the child soldier hiding behind the debris as the kids walk towards the statue. The scene is cut just before the missile appears.
Cut Wim’s dad “I don’t remember any surges”.
I added a reversed external shot of the Supervisor tower from Episode 8 as a pointer shot to the crew’s location before we see them access the lift.
Cut Neel “Here is where Hena said there would be co-ordinates.”
Added modified Neel line “On At-Attin noone is allowed up here”
Cut Jod “Yeah, they’re gone”.
Cut Jod “good luck with that”.
Trim Wim & Fern’s window scene to remove the repetition of “I have no idea what I’m doing” and references to the battle.

Episode 5: [36mins to 23mins]
Transition from Neel on the floor to Wim’s dad and Fern’s mum in her office. Cut Fern’s mum “something’s wrong”.
Transition to the Crew aboard the Onyx.
Cut Fern & Jod’s back and forth about being scared.
Cut Fern “Do you remember where At-Attin is”.
Cut Jod “this ship is the Onxy Cinder. You don’t appreciate how incredible this is”.
Cut Jou “crew, ship, all”.
Cut the first part of SM-33’s story about Rennod including reference to the concubine.
Trim Jod’s walk towards Wim.
Cut Wim “nothing”
Cut Wim “it’s scary and confusing”.
Cut reference to Wim’s mum. This plot point goes nowhere.
Cut Jod talking about Wim’s vivid imagination.
Cut sequence where everyone mentions the name Lanupa. Only the welcome message states the planet name.
Cut “children are not permitted” - unnecessary as “adults only” has already been stated.
Cut Jod “you can trust me you know, stay on the ship”.
Cut the security check at the Spa entrance.
Trim spa tour including cutting reference to the Banking Clan and high security and activation of SM-33’s restraining bolt.
Cut Jod asking for an upgrade and a banquet.
Cut Pocket talking about trying to find Dash Zentin - we know it’s a fake name, no need to spell it out.
Cut Pocket “hey kids, don’t trust this sleemo”
Cut hotel room scene.
Cut KB mentioning Rennod’s symbol.
Cut Wim, Fern and SM-33 searching for Rennod’s symbol and finding Cotthalops. The two chase scenes with the guards are combined to form a single sequence ending with SM-33 appearing and telling them to come to the caverns below.
Cut Cotthalops opening the entrance to the lair - we cut to the crew already within the lair, implying that SM-33 and Fern found it off screen.
Cut Fern talking to Jod about their deal.
Cut Jod “this is a good one isn’t it” and “look for a lever”.
Trim pause between Jod throwing the credit into the acid and the acid disappearing.
Trim the crew looking at the treasures in the lair.
Trim SM-33 searching the data port.
Cut Jod asking SM-33 if the treasure is real and on At-Attin. - we know this from Rennod’s message.
Cut Neel “what’s wrong with the picture”.
Cut Fern talking about their deal with Jod.

Episode 6 [25mins to 16mins]
Scene where the crew exit the slides is cut immediately after Neel asks for help with KB - the sub plot about KB’s augs has been removed.
Cut Jod “hello, I’m glad you’re here”.
Cut Pocket gloating to Jod - her initial wave is all that’s needed.
Cut Fern talking about Wim fighting her about climbing the cliff and Neel not being able to do it. - this all plays out in the group disagreement that leads to them separating. It doesn’t need foreshadowing.
Cut KB “maybe we should consider some other options”.
Cut Neel’s negative rant.
Trim Wim and Fern’s argument.
End the scene immediately after Fern says “I guess we should split up” and transition to the pirate vessel exiting hyperspace.
Trim pirate cheering before equal time.
Trim Jod’s speech to shorten long pauses, reduce repetition and cut reference to the glow weed plantation.
Cut KB collapsing and the first Fern/Neel climbing the cliff scene. We transition from Jod in the airlock to the second scene on Fern and Neel climbing the cliff.
Trim the crew reunion scene to a minimum.
Trim Onyx Cinder start-up sequence - it’s ridiculously long.
Cut Wim aiming the turret.
Cut “one last surge”
Cut Neel “its not working”
Cut KB “33 said never ever touch it”
Trim lead up to Fern pressing the button.
Cut KB fanning the engine.
Cut Wim “claimsies on the new ship”.

Episode 7 [26mins to 21mins]
Trim “did you hear that” and “probably a tree sucker”.
Trim the buoy release scene so that the parents get neutralised quicker - makes the droids seem more threatening, which adds to the feeling of control on At-Attin.
Cut Jod’s speech to Brutus.
Cut the fighters being sent into the nebula.
Cut Jod “the crew loves me”
Cut Brutus “I said Surrender”
Trim Buoy message so that it just includes essential information given by Wim’s Dad and Fern’s mum.
Trim barrier penetration sequence.
Cut Neel “just like on Hena’s planet”
Cut Fern “my mum totally lied on that message”
Trim Jod stomping around the cockpit.
Cut Jod “At-Attin is on the inside, exactly like I told you”
Cut Jod “you’re all weak” and “weak, sheltered, spoilt children” - his distain for the kids is removed in this edit to soften his character.
Cut Jod explaining his plan to the children. Unnecessary exposition. The scene ends with Jod “let me think” and we cut to the parents and the safety droid.
Cut Jod “Yes” - “Of course I am” is a sufficient response.
Cut Wim’s dad and Fern’s mum approaching the ship across the grass - it makes no sense for them to appear here.
Cut Jod “quite the operation you have here” and droid “we hoped you would be pleased”. Unnecessary dialogue and too similar to lines from Attack of the Clones.
Cut Jod “the supervisor yes, better than dealing with a droid. Well go and fetch him then and some of your finest refreshment”.
Trim descent into the vault.

Episode 8 [31mins to 25mins]
Cut Fern’s mum “thank you again, we don’t want to interfere with your offloading duties”.
Cut Jod “and report back to me on their behaviour”
Cut Jod “I insist” and “I got to see how troublesome they can be on our little adventure home, didn’t I Wim.
Cut Fern “yes, we were way too troublesome”.
Cut Jod “I’ll take special care of both of you”.
Cut scene back at Wim’s house. Adds nothing and kills the pacing.
We transition from the vault to Fern, Jod and Fern’s mum in the tower lift.
Cut Supervisor mentioning Fern.
Cut Jod “and start the invasion”
Trim Pirate ship arrival.
Cut Neel’s family responding to the laser fire.
Cut KB warning her parents.
Cut pirates entering KB’s house.
Cut Neel saying he’s going to find cover.
Cut Neel heading to the school roof.
Cut Fern and her mum talking about the barrier and their plan to grab a droid gun.
Cut Fern “Wim found the crystal a long time ago….” Nothing can make their story believable, but this at least makes it less ridiculous.
Cut Jod “you brought your dad?”.
Cut KB’s parents “KB how are you flying that thing: and KB “Oh I’ve got help” - to maintain the tension
Cut SM-33 “hold my head steady girl” - we don’t know SM-33 has been revived until right at the end.
Cut Neel firing the rooftop gun.
Cut KB talking to her parents as the ship plummets towards the ground.
Trim pause between KB crashing and Fern screaming.
Cut Jod hesitating to use his weapon as Fern tries to pull the barrier handle. Fern’s move is now smoother and Jod fires without hesitation.
Cut Wim’s dad “just do what he says”. Wim now makes the decision himself.
Cut Fern telling Wim to go get the lightsaber. He now does this spontaneously. These last 2 cuts are essential to complete Wim’s character arc.
Re-edit the barrier deactivation sequence so that Fern’s mum pulling the lever is a bigger surprise and she does it without Fern asking her. It’s far more powerful if the undersecretary does it spontaneously.
Cut Wim shouting “Jod”
Cut shot of the smoking roof canon.

Iris out to The Main Star Wars Theme.

Hi all, just thought I’d offer an update on the Season 3 edit.

I have completed by third cut and got it down to 2h 50. Slightly over my 2h45 target, but there is a lot to fit in.

The rough outline is

Act 1: Escape from Tantiss & Reunion
Act 2: Reconciliation & Omega’s Capture
Act 3: Return to Tantiss

Basic Premise:

• The plot focuses on events at Tantiss.
• Omega and Crosshair’s escape form the first act with a lot of tightening of the plot including condensing the three Tantiss day cycles to two.
• There is a single scene of Hunter and Wrecker finding the abandoned base, to have them appear in the first act.
• When Omega and Crosshair crash on the planet Lau they immediately go to the port and steal the shuttle.
• “The Return” and “Point of no Return” form the bulk of the second act.
• The capture of the clone agent by Rex and his team is included between those 2 episodes. The knowledge that the clone agents are looking for Omega is the trigger for the Batch to leave Pabu.
• The rest of Infiltration and Extraction are cut.
• Bad Territory and Harbinger are completely cut.
• The vast majority of Identity Crisis is cut. Only the important scenes involving Emery and Hemlock are retained and spread throughout the second act. Anything involving the children or the vault are removed. We don’t see the inside of the vault until Omega arrives.
• The Juggernaught is largely cut. All we see is the first scene of Rampart and the Batch arrive to release him and leave the planet - it plays out similar to the Rebels breaking out Jan in Rogue One.
• The third act is the final three episodes with a good degree of trimming.

If anyone wants to offer feedback I have an SD, centre channel-only version available to view. It’s entirely music free and is actually really cool to watch it.

My plan is to slowly go thought it over the next few weeks to add the other 5 channels and sort out music transitions, although Skeleton Crew will be taking priority.

NM

Thanks Warhorn. Much appreciated! This series was the most rewarding for me to edit because it was very hit and miss. When you eliminate the elements that didn’t work, you’re left with a pretty good story that foreshadows events of the PT.

spunkmeyer said:

Smudger,
I looked forward to someone doing a more filmic edit of this. I attended the London launch and came away slightly confused by the constant jumping around the timeline. Even seeing the whole series left me a bit meh.
You have done a great job of moving everything round to address this, flashbacks are only used when necessary and the whole moves more like a film would. The removal of unnecessary battles and subplots don’t affect anything, except to allow the seasoned watcher to go “oh, that bit has gone”. The opening crawl and music is a welcome addition, I fail to see why they have to change stuff like that. Editing is crisp, the whole is more pacey.
The only part that was a big problem for me that you couldn’t undo was the bit where she gets to the dead jedi before Sol etc by using a shortcut in a place she had never visited. Purely done so that she could be ‘discovered’ finding the body. Shoddy writing, frankly.

Thanks for your work, I look forward to you doing the same to skeleton crew et al.

Thanks Spunkmeyer. I’m glad you enjoyed it. Totally agree with the point you make about shoddy writing. It’s a feature of many modern shows. When something doesn’t make sense they just crack on regardless rather than re-write it. Somehow Palpatine returned…….

Really looking forward to Skeleton crew. As a massive fan of Goonies and ET I’m hoping I can get a fun adventure film out of the series.

Jar Jar Bricks said:

I enjoyed watching this edit a great deal. It will probably be my go-to from now on. A shame that it won’t ultimately lead anywhere, though. I just have a few nitpicks:

• I would have preferred the whole version of Osha’s testing. This was the only cut that a viewer noticed, and he hadn’t seen the show since it came out.
• You could save a lot of time by removing the fake wakeup vision that Osha has from the crash. I realize that this sets up her future hallucinations of child Mae, and possibly explains why she suddenly suspects her of the murder at the edge of the cliff, but in my opinion it messes with the pacing too much. Without it, I also think the scene at the cliff is more revelatory/interesting.
• Without the line that their midichlorians are split evenly, I’m not sure why Sol thinks he needs both girls to prove anything about the vergence.
• I guess I’m confused what happened to the rest of the witches - is the intention supposed to be that they killed the rest?
• I’d remove the weird, almost predatory scene between Sol and Mae strapped to the ship, mostly because we don’t actually learn anything from it anymore since the final flashback is shifted to Brendok. You could possibly even experiment with their next scene together, removing the reveal that he killed their mother, to save that reveal for Brendok itself.
• In general, you could probably tighten up Sol catching on to the fact that “Osha” is Mae earlier - shortly after the part where the camera holds on him for almost a minute (he’s clearly piecing things together). I don’t think many of the tracker scenes are necessary here, they’re just cringey comedy. The “Corcoran” cut accomplishes this quite well.

If you look into some of the areas I suggested, you might be able to trim this edit down to a more digestible 2 hours and 30 minutes.

Thanks for the feedback!

That is the full scene of Osha’s testing. I agree it feels too short, but that’s how it’s presented in the series. The only thing I cut was the final shot of Indra looking at Sol.

I have the same views about the fake wake-up. I tried a few edits removing it but none really worked. Unfortunately that dream sequence is pretty essential to the story. Osha needs a reason to suspect that Mae is alive, and that is the only option.

I removed mention of the midichlorian symbionts for several reasons. Firstly I didn’t want to expand their lore any further given their controversial nature amongst fans. I left in what fits with TPM.
Secondly I actually think having physical “proof” that the twins are the same person takes away from Sol’s character arc. He is driven by this belief and I like it being a theory to him, rather than a fact. It still doesn’t change the fact that he needs both twins to prove that they are the same person.

I left the fate of the witches for the audience to decide… were they killed by the Jedi or the fire? Including the Kelnacca fight scene in the final flashback made it way too long, and the fate of the other witches isn’t that important to the story.

I tried several edits of the Sol/Mae scenes aboard the cruiser and reduced them as much as I could. The issue with cutting things further is that they need to get to Brendock before Mae escapes. That pretty much rules out cutting the scene where Mae is restrained.

Basil and PiP were the most frustrating part of this edit. I wanted to remove them completely, but they are tied to the core plot which makes it almost impossible. I tried it several times, but I couldn’t come up with anything I was 100% happy with.

EddieDean said:

smudger9 said:

EddieDean said:

Looks great. Why cut Maul talking to Jesse about the grand plan? That was always one of the highlights of the episode for me.

We get most of that exposition in Maul’s interactions with Ahsoka and I didn’t want to detract from those scenes. The whole arc hinges on Maul luring the Jedi (ultimately the wrong Jedi) to Mandalore so the focus should be on that dynamic.

Maul revealing the nature of the grand plan to a clone didn’t feel right for his character. Clones are beneath him.

Sounds great either way. I’ve always been a big fan of yours. What’s next in this series for you? What’re your major plans for the remaining content? Any thoughts on an alternative opening movie? As you have, I’ve thought this content to death, so if there’s any valuable perspectives I can offer I’d be happy to.

Thanks Eddie. It was great returning to the Clone Wars. The actual stimulus was the Tales of…. series, which I enjoyed incorporating into Clone Wars content.

Next up is Bad Batch season 3 and then Skeleton Crew. If I have time before Andor season 2 I’ll do a season 6 Clone Wars edit.

sgscobie said:

Can’t wait to watch this, as your edits are always top tier! Thanks, once again 😃

Thanks so much. EPIX is now in my clone was folder 😊.

EddieDean said:

Looks great. Why cut Maul talking to Jesse about the grand plan? That was always one of the highlights of the episode for me.

We get most of that exposition in Maul’s interactions with Ahsoka and I didn’t want to detract from those scenes. The whole arc hinges on Maul luring the Jedi (ultimately the wrong Jedi) to Mandalore so the focus should be on that dynamic.

Maul revealing the nature of the grand plan to a clone didn’t feel right for his character. Clones are beneath him.

Finally an addition to this series.

Episode IX: The Fallen Apprentice

I’ve gone out-of-order to bring you an edit of the final season. While there have been many fan edits of the Siege of Mandalore, this edit uniquely weaves in elements from the Trace and Rafa arc and the “Tales of…” series to produce a balanced movie focusing on Ahsoka’s post-Jedi journey that creates a bridge between the Clone Wars and the Era of the Empire. My Main aims are:

1. Craft a Cohesive Three-Act Structure:
   This edit aims to deliver a well-balanced and satisfying beginning, middle, and end, ensuring that the story feels complete and fulfilling and serves as a fitting conclusion to the beloved Clone Wars saga.

2. Highlight Ahsoka’s Journey:
   The narrative focuses on Ahsoka Tano’s evolution, tracing her path from a disillusioned citizen of Coruscant to a hesitant Jedi and ultimately to a rebel poised for action. “Practice Makes Perfect” has been used throughout the edit to show Ahsoka’s relationship with Anakin and the jedi order and to foreshadow events in the final act.

3. Create a Bridge between the Clone Wars and the Era of the Empire:
   By using select portions of the “Tales of…” series I have ventured beyond the end of the Clone Wars to lay the groundwork for storylines in the early Empire era to create a seamless transition into the next era of the Star Wars saga.

4. Integration of Subplots:
   By incorporating relevant subplots, such as a condensed version of the Trace and Rafa arc, I have provided additional context and depth to the main narrative. Whilst not the best element of the final season, the subplot is essential for Ahsoka’s arc and to set up events on Mandalore.

Here is a link to a scene where I’ve added the Kenobi holo message from Rebels to Ahsoka looking at the Clone helmets.

https://youtu.be/K8MGtVP1yEw

Detailed Changes

Star Wars Logos (2 mins)
Opening Crawl
Pan down to shot of a shuttle exiting hyperspace above Coruscant (shot from Rise of Clovis)

Act 1 (50 mins)

TOTJ Practice Makes Perfect (4 mins)
Cut to external shot of Jedi Temple from Tales of the Jedi Practice Makes Perfect.
Jedi Temple scene plays out unaltered.
Wipe to Ahsoka arriving at the military hanger. Training plays out up to Ahsoka being stunned. Cut to black with audio of Anakin continuing.

Gone With A Trace (8 mins)
Dissolve transition to Ahsoka on her speeder on Corusctant. Shots trimmed to have the force theme synch better.
Trimmed the malfunctioning speeder sequence so the there is one continuous sequence of her filing down to the platform.
Removed Ahsoka talking about fixing her own bike - Trace fixes it in this edit.
Remove Trace “don’t take too long” and “I could do with the money” - Trace fixes it for free.
Remove scene of Ahoska fixing her bike.
Cut Trace “No sense in you staying if you’re gonna be miserable”.
Cut Trace “Don’t do anything, got it”.
Cut Ashoka “I’d back off if I were you”.
Trim fight between Trace and Bintu’s thugs.
Remove Droids storyline. We now cut from Rafa greeting the Alien in the laundromat to Ahsoka and Trace working on Trace’s ship, this removes the entire second half of the episode.

Deal no Deal (19mins)
Cut chat about the Silver Angel name.
Remove Anakin and the cruiser scene - he’s supposed to be in the Outer Rim! Ahsoka, Trace and Rafa now lift off from the hangar and leave Coruscant without incident.
Anakin’s presence in this part of the story is maintained by using the Anakin/Padme scene from “A Distant Echo”. Anakin’s dialogue is altered so that he mentions Fives instead of Echo.
Cut the meeting with King Yaruba - they arrive at Kessel and head straight to the spice mines.
Cut Ahsoka “That was more of an ethical debate”.
Cut Rafa and Krim talking abut trust.
Cut Rafa “I think we transmitted that to you already”.
As the crew get captured in their crusier I reversed the wide shot of their ship so that the shot pans out and inserted the clip of Bo Katan and her night owls from the end of “Dangerous Debt” discussing the identity of the Jedi they can see. This brings forward the Mandalorian’s appearance to the earliest possible point to better integrate the main plot with the opening act.

Dangerous Debt (3mins)
Only the scene of Ahsoka, Rafa and Trace in the cell has been used.
The rest of the episode has been cut which eliminates the repeated escapes and gets to the point of this arc a lot sooner.

Together Again (16mins)
Initial scene of Ahsoka, Trace and Rafa in the cell has been cut - this has essentially been replaced by the scene from Dangerous debt. The Pikes then take them all to see Krim.
The scenes of Rafa and Trace acquiring the spice shipment have been removed.
Cut Ahsoka entering the Mandalorian ship. The scene ends with her talking to Trace and Rafa and transition wipes to the next episode.

Act 2 (44mins)

Old Friends Not Forgotten (24mins)
Cut the Anakin/Kenobi banter. Anakin just walks out to surrender.
Cut the shot of the 501st hiding under the bridge.
Cut battle droid “that’s a relief”.
Cut Anakin and Kenobi talking about Ahsoka and Maul as Bo’s ship arrives.
Trim Ahsoka and Anakin walking down the corridor.
As Ahsoka meets the 501st I have used the next sequence from Practice Makes Perfect to create a series of short flashbacks of her training.
Trim Ahsoka twirling her new lightsabers.
Cut Ahsoka wishing Anakin good luck.
Cut most of Ahsoka’s free-fall to the surface of Mandalore - a very over-the-top sequence that makes her look indestructible.

The Phantom Apprentice (20mins)
Cut Maul “your way of thinking is behind the times.
Cut Rex and 501st running through the tunnels.
Cut Ahsoka “Tell Anakin……” And Obi Wan “I will”.
Cut Maul talking to Jesse about the grand plan.
Cut Maul “information is a valuable commodity”
Cut Bo Katan/Saxon lift fight - adds nothing.
Cut Maul talking to Ahsoka about the hypocrisy of the jedi council.
Cut the brief Clone/Mando battle scene that interrupts the Maul/Ahsoka scene. Its a much more impactful scene uninterrupted.
Trim Maul/Ahsoka battle including Ahsoka losing and regaining a lightsaber and Ahsoka telling Maul Anakin would have beaten him easily.

Act 3 (44mins)

Shattered (24 mins)
Cut Yoda asking Ahsoka if she has a message for Skywalker.
Trim Bo and Ahsoka farewell.
As Ahsoka stands on the bridge I have added the next flashback sequence from Practice Makes Perfect.
As Rex and the 501st head doff to hunt down Ahsoka I’ve inserted the first scene from TOTE Devoted of Bariss in her cell as order 66 is carried out.
Cut Ahsoka having difficulty finding Rex’s chip.

Victory and Death (20mins)
Add final flashback scene from Practice Makes Perfect using the scene of Rex and Ahsoka walking into the Hangar.
Minor trimming to the hangar battle to remove static shots.
Trim sequence with Ahsoka falling through the air.
Inserted Barriss recruitment scene from TOTE Devoted before we see Rex and Ahsoka looking at the crashed Ventor and clone helmets.
Obi-Wan hologram warning from Rebels added to scene of Ahsoka looking at the clone helmets.

Epilogue (10mins)

TOTE Doveted: Barriss arrives at the fortress inquisitorius and we immediately cut to her being tested by the Grand Inquisitor. The other Jedi there for testing have been cut.
TOTJ Resolve: Padme funeral scene plays out in full.
TOTE Devoted: Bariss and the other inquisitors are introduced to Vader.
Final Clone Wars scene of Vader and Imperial troops exploring the wrecked Venator.

As with episode 2, this will also get THE NEW REPUBLIC title added.

I plan to revisit these edits before the Mandalorian and Grogu is released to tighten them up. I may move the Mando/Grogu reunion back to Tatooine.

Khernel said:

Hey, already watched ep2, I have to say I dont like the new title, “Mando”, it doesnt sound serious to me. But I like the rest of it, now I get how you fixed that part of the first edit where you removed the prison episode, it works better than I expected. Time to watch part 3!

I will be changing the title and opening crawl to the red THE NEW REPUBLIC banner as I have done with season 1