I can’t thank you folks enough for the help and the tips. I’m going to try to slow down and rethink this since I have a little more time (thanks to this virus mess) to work on it and better materials to work with. I’m going to try to take my time and do a good job on this…though I’m going to try not to take too much time. I’m excited about this project and I’m learning a lot. I’m thinking I may be able to come along half way and do this in 720p. I tried the Dandere2x scaler which pretended to work without errors but could only generate files that were no more than 17mb or about 72 frames. I resized a couple shots in Film9 that look ok but I’m not quite happy with it yet. My machine doesn’t have a powerful enough video card to run the gigapixel trial so I’m just going to have to keep messing around with free stuff. I’ll give Video2x a try next and if that doesn’t work I’ll just try to see how rough it is to bust open these clips and save the individual frames into a folder and resize them with Waifu2x one at a time and then reassemble them. This is turning out to a pretty fun project and this place has turned out to be a wonderful community. I’m going to try to do a good job on this so I can give something back. I gotta get this thing done so I can work on cleaning the 36-40 Flash Gordon serials next!
Dang, that HDTV version seems to be impossible to find. Some folks have mentioned a certain place where it can be found but I don’t have access to that. I wish I did. If anybody out there knows how or where that can be found I’d really really appreciate any tips. Shoot me a pm if you know or can help.
Otherwise I reckon I’m going to continue with trying to degrain and color match the slv clips with the theatrical BD footage.
So far I have ripped the BR of the theatrical version and downsized it to the same dimensions as the DC DVD release.
Why?? I would much rather have an HD movie where some scenes have a drop in quality, than have the whole movie be a piddling 360p. Wasn’t the whole point of Fanfiltration’s second version to do it in HD?
I’m sorry that you feel that way and I do appreciate your suggestion, but after having seen the “TMP Director’s Edition HD reconstruction” that’s floating around the internet I found the effect of going from HD footage to upscaled SD footage very jarring and have decided against it. I’m just going to keep this a high bit-rate standard definition project for the time being. High bit-rate SD widescreen movies look fine on a 1080p display. It probably won’t look good for those of you who have 4k displays so I don’t know what to tell you. This will simply be a project to replace all of the moire affected video in Mr. FanFiltration’s release with clean video. I am also doing dirt and scratch removal with the slv scenes.
If I have success and it looks good to me when I get done, I may give a 720p version a try eventually. I have been researching some of the AI up-scaling software out there and the best one is pretty expensive but it does have a 30 day trial version that has no restrictions. So if I get done with my SD version and it looks good to me I’ll just dump all of the SD clips sourced from the Director’s Edition into a folder and give them a run through that upscaler software and see how they look. I’ll try 1080p first and see how it does with that but I’m not going to get my hopes up. If it can manage to crank out a decent looking 720p upscale I’d be happy with that but I’m not going to get ahead of myself. We’ll just see what happens.
Dek Rollins said:
You should use the HDTV broadcast of the theatrical version rather than the Blu-ray. The one from the same master as the Director’s Edition DVD.
Hey that’s not a bad idea. I’ll have to see if I can hunt that down. I’m still in the cleaning and encoding phase so it wouldn’t hurt for me to find a release with a similar look. Thanks for the tip man!
Ok so I have gotten a little carried away and am really getting crazy into this silly little project. I never was able to clean up the video on this release so I decided to start over. I bought a new unsealed TMP Director’s Cut DVD on ebay and have ripped it, the extra scenes for SLV on disc 2, and have also ripped the bluray of the theatrical version as well.
So far I have ripped the BR of the theatrical version and downsized it to the same dimensions as the DC DVD release. The theatrical release looks amazing even after having downsized it from 1080p down to 720x360(848x360 display).
I also noticed that both the footage in the DC release and the extra footage on the special features disc has not been digitally cleaned in any way. Sure, the footage was taken from prints that were in excellent condition but there are still plenty of dirt spots and the occasional very light scratch(the scene where Sulu stares at Ilia and stumbles all over himself was the dirtiest of the lot).
So I have taken the clips from the DC that I’m going to end up needing and have run all of them through Film9 (a gui frontend for avisynth that pipelines through virtualdub2) to clean the dirt and scratches. I must say, having never used Film9 before I am VERY impressed with it. It took a little practice to learn how to use it correctly but after some experimentation I have manage to remove 99% of all the dirt and scratches from the scenes I need without having introduced any weird artifacts (you really have to be careful where you use the ‘remove scratches’ filter because it will try to erase seams on walls and doors). I am tickled to death with the end results!
I have also taken that completed “missing matte” scene from V.W.V.'s youtube video and with some initial difficulty managed to convert it back to 23.976fps progressive to match all of the other footage. It was embedded in a 30p stream and it took converting it up to 60p in handbrake and finally from 60p back down to 23.976 to preserve the motion without introducing additional judder (trying to go straight from 30p to 23.976 was a disaster and destroyed the motion with horrible judder). After that I resized it to match the DC dimensions as well. I’m going to end up trying to sharpen it a little bit (it’s a touch soft in comparison to all of the other clips) but I think it’ll turn out ok since it’s only a little over 10 seconds that I need from it.
Anyway…so far I have just about finished all the ripping, transcoding, and cleaning that needs to be done, so I’ll have everything I need to get started. I do have one more thing to do and that’s to make sure I make a small adjustment to the contrast and color balance so these clips from the DC match the downsized footage from theatrical BR release. They aren’t far off but it does look like the BR release of the theatrical version has a slightly higher contrast and the colors are a little bit “cooler”.
It’ll end up being a lot easier for me than I’m sure it was for Mr. Fanfiltration since I have his release to use as a guide. The soundtrack is right there and all I’ll have to do is just carefully drop the clean footage right on top, scene by scene and then render it when it’s done. Wish me luck folks!
After searching all around the darkest regions of the interwebz, I finally found this preservation. The edit is perfect. It matches right up with the original video releases a lot of us grew up with. It isn’t without problems though. The video encoding is a disaster even for an SD video file. The jagged edged interlacing artifacts are terrible and cannot be removed. I’ve tried reverse telecine, deinterlacing, comb filters and every single combination of those to try to clean this up with no success.
A youtuber V.W.V. took the airlock scene with the missing matte painting, created his own matte (very well done I must say) and created a completed version of the scene.
My intention was to take this preservation and splice in the restored airlock scene to create a 100% complete widescreen version of SLV. I still intend to do so, but it’s going to end up looking really silly with that one single scene being the only clean shot in the entire film. Wish me luck folks.
I’m sure Mr. FanFiltration and other folks get tired of hearing this, but does this Widescreen ST TMP SLV preservation still exist? To say that my interest is piqued would be an understatement. SLV was the first version of TMP I ever saw. I still have the worn out vhs tape from my childhood but I don’t even have a working player at the moment. I’ve looked around here and there online for this one with no luck. Does this widescreen preservation still exist and how would one go about finding it? I’m still kinda new here.
The puggo grand transfer was absolutely wonderful. I wish I knew how to see this one too. You’re very good at what you do. Thank you!