I own the full 35mm Die Hard With the vengeance film reels. If anyone wants to do a scan of it and do a donations post with cost for shipping and scanning all the reels I’m would happily lend it out.
As RU.08 mentioned some year ago this print was “good, not great”. Now that Cameron missed the mark on the new 4K transfer, with the apparent *“I don’t like film grain A.I grain removing tool” we should either rest the case for this preservation and be happy with the 35mm theatrical 1.0 version or find a new print and sort things out. But, that’s easy for me to suggest.
Below is a screenshot from a theatrical trailer 35mm 4K scan made by FT Depot. Considering that a theatrical trailer printed at that time would not necessarily have the same color timing as the fully theatrical release print I feel that the V 1.0 print is way off in colors. But with that said, it wouldn’t be fair to compare a theatrical trailer 35mm scan with a release print. However, I do feel that the film scan (V 1.0) should be looked over.
Theatrical trailer 35mm 4k Scan (TOP) Theatrical release print scan v1.0 (Bottom)
Ridicoulus price…
A new opportunity to get this scanned.
Overall good condition 35mm print on eBay. 3 days left on the bidding.
It will be interesting to see what the colors end up like for JP on this project here.
I have a JP print in hand (which I am running another 4k project for, see other thread) and I can say that the earlier (nothing to do with the new 4k project this thread is about, talking about the original JP 35mm project done in HD) 1080P project versions 1 and 2 (assuming my copies didn’t get messed with and re-encoded in wrong colorspace or something and are the proper original files for the project) colors definitely do not match what I see on the print I have. There is definitely more saturation on the actual print (at least on the particular print I have access to at the moment) and the colors are a different tint, pretty noticeably so. I will also say that the colors are a bit different than I expected. The yellow and red on the jeep are not quite as ultra-saturated as I expected and the red is a touch different shade than expected, although a good bit moreso than on the 1080P original project files I have, and a lot of the vegetation isn’t a rich green but more of a bit kinda yellowish less greeny green (the old project has that too, just even a good deal moreso less saturated for the red on the truck and pink shirts and the green, while also not deep, rich greeny green, is tinted a different way and a bit different than what I see on the print on hand). I don’t know if the print I have on hand even has full richness or not. It seems decent, but I’m not sure it’s quite a week one print. But hard to say, I only did see JP in 35mm back in '93 and only digital ever since so I really don’t remember that sort of detail. After prints get shown a lot, they tend to lose a bit of contrast and saturation and the highlights and brights sometimes get more blown out and run together in a weird way, from what I recall from the 35mm projection days, when you’d often see quite a change from first week or showings to showings a month or two later if they never got a new print. Anyway, the one I have in hand, all the same, still might be richer and less faded than the one scanned for the 1080P project (assuming it’s not just the scanner used or the grading making the difference, which could be). Whatever the reason, the 1080P original project looks a bit dull and faded and with somewhat different tint to colors compared to the tiny bit of the 35mm print I have in hand I just peeked at. It’s really a fair amount different. Anyway, it will be interesting to see how this print and it’s project end up comparing to mine as well as to the original 1080P project.
I compared on a D56 high CRI lightbox directly next to monitor showing the two earlier 1080P project scan .mkv files. Not sure if it is because the print they used was more faded out or maybe processed differently in the film lab or the way the scan got done or graded. The files almost have a look like they were made in P3 or something but treated like they were REC709 primaries sort of deal, but it might just be the particular print, the scanning or grading. (that said still all props to the original 1080P JP project, there’s a lot great about it!)
How does this scanned clip compare to your print?
Nice one Eggplant! Your scan is more correct then the 35mm scan of the movie available. Hopefully one day we can get it better scanned.
Is that version actually available though? To normal people who cant get membership to those private trackers. If it is then cool but I made this specifically because I couldnt find it after searching for ages.
Btw, all those people asking if this is still available, it might help if you send me a message and actually ask for it. Why should I chase after you to give you a link?
Understand exactly, I’m with you.
Yes, version 2,0 is on Blutopia.
But, you made a good option for those not in the private sites.
FYI. This may be a bit wiseacre but there is a 16:9 version called 2.0 released from the same guys that made the Open Matte version.
Good news. Cast Away print is now 100% scanned and is currently being rendered.
A sample will be sent out to all donors and then awaits a fully rendered 1.85:1 and Open Matte version to be enjoyed in all its glory.
Maybe a bit late now, but for everyones knowledge:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/324240305678
It looks clean and with good colors.
Guys is there anyway I could download this Open Matte version? Every link is dead, the torrent is without seeders. I’m a die hard fan since 93, actually a filmmaker myself and seeing JP in Open Matte would mean the world to me. Please!
Blutopia has it.
Count me in, $15.
Good news. We have now obtained the cinema Dts files from a member over at Fanres.
Well done seb, you have funded this well, I hope this goes underway forgive me that I can’t donate as I have to pay for hard drives for my own project, but I am excited for the final release.
Thanks Monsieur Hulot! No worries, that is understandable. Also, glad to see your Temple of Doom project come ashore.
I’ll throw in $15
Thanks Parzival91! Added.
In for $15!
Thanks ZackR! Added.
Mark me down for $10. Also, “WILSON!”
Thanks trillary dump! Added.
I’ll pledge $10
Thanks Gryfun! Noted.
In for 15$.
Is this open matte 4:3? What are going to see? Matted and unmatted?😃
Great, thanks Freedomland. Yes we will release both. 😃
I’d like to pledge $5. It’s not much but I hope it helps.
Thanks FilmD00d! Noted.
An update. The film rolls are now purchased and are now being sent for scanning. I have pledged $ 170 to the project. This means that we are soon more than halfway to fully funded. Now only $ 240 remains. I will wait to contact anyone who has donated until everything is fully funded.
This looks really exciting, I’m considering donating – would the final scan be the open matte as seen in your screenshots/sample scans?
Glad to hear. Yes we will release it in Open matte and also a 16:9 version. If there are many who donate and who are more interested in Open matte then we prioritize it first.
Thanks craigbillet!
Added.
I’d donate 5$, if you take small amounts?
Of course. Thanks Jerclayv2! Noted.
Thanks Soupdrinker0. Added to the list!