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#1424043
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<strong>2006 GOUT</strong> : The changes to the OT films &amp; general 2006 GOUT DVD discussion thread
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JadedSkywalker said:

There is a pan and scan of the definitive collection master. What do you think they used for the 1995 vhs set. Although the only pan and scan version on Laserdisc happened in Hong Kong. And of course beyond Dark Jedi’s preservation of the VHS release there is no DVD, especially not official retail.

does that pan and scan of the definitive collection have the gaffe with the blue tie fighter lasers in TESB ?

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#1423551
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The <strong>random YouTube / Vimeo etc video finds</strong> thread for the Original Trilogy
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I posted this in oojason’s recent thread on Betamax , but think it fits here too (see that thread for context)

ON TV Star Wars Up Next & Star Trek II Premiere promos ON-TV was a pay per view tv subscription service in the early 80s in the United States… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Jtuh8Sz9JY

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#1423548
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The Original Trilogy on Betamax (Beta)
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" VCRs did existed as far back as 1975 - and many people did ‘record’ the showings of Star Wars on TV onto a blank tape when the film was eventually aired on tv back in 1982 in the US (via PPV; something which only half a million people could access at the time)."

I was one of the lucky ones who got to see it on ppv ( pay per view ) . My folks had a subscription to the on-tv ppv service out of Chicago. The box was in their bedroom , so I could only watch it in there , though my older brothers and I could see the scrambled signal on the downstairs tv , which we got great amusement from watching late at night 😃 Sadly , we did not have a vcr at that time , as they were indeed very expensive .Here is an ad for the ON-TV Star Wars premiere that someone recorded back in the day and uploaded to Youtube , also featuring The Wrath Of Khan premiere , which is how I first saw that movie …https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Jtuh8Sz9JY the video says 1983 , but it was in fact 1982 when Star Wars premiered on ON-TV

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#1423541
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<strong>2006 GOUT</strong> : The changes to the OT films &amp; general 2006 GOUT DVD discussion thread
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Ri~Lei said:

screams in the void said:

I just popped my GOUT copy of Star Wars 77 into my blu ray player and displayed it on my 55 inch lcd flatscreen the other day . First time in a very long time that I have watched it ,and it looked atrocious on that . Hell , my letterbox 1992 VHS looks better on that tv . ( I tried it right after ) . The GOUT is a grainy mess in comparison . I also messed around with the settings on my tv and displayed each in both 4x3 for proper proportions ,and in zoom mode .I will have to take a look at these on my crt’s later to see if they look better .Looking back at some of the links at the top of this thread , I do think Mike Verta was right in his belief that there was artificial grain applied to this release to make it look sub standard .Also , when this release came out , a lot of people were saying these looked better than the laser disc preservations that were being made at the time .Is that due to the displays they were being watched on at the time ? A lot of people still had crt’s back then . Granted , the dvd image may be sharper , but I will take the softer look of VHS or Laserdisc over this grainy image any time . I did watch my 92 VHS letterbox copy on my 30 inch widescreen Samsung Slimfit HD CRT recently , and that looked spectacular and crisp and vibrant on it ,though the colors did not “pop” like on the 95 faces VHS , but it looked more like I remember it looking in the theater originally .I go back and fourth sometimes , but I now think this is my ideal way to watch it out of all the media formats I own . I will definitely have to see how the GOUT looks on that crt .

Greetings ScreamsfromtheVoid, just to ask, were you ever capable of testing those G.O.U.T. discs upon that aforementioned HD CRT screen; if so, did they fare samewise or worse than the letter-boxed VHS-cassettes?

~Ice~

Hi , thanks for asking , I did finally get around to checking it out , the GOUT dvd did look a lot sharper on my widescreen crt , and the grain was a lot less noticeable , but still there ,in the scenes on the blockade runner and when the droids arrive on Tatooine , but looks like more natural film grain here . The colors were more vibrant , as the GOUT is the 93 laserdisc transfer , as is the source of the 95 vhs faces set ( Though I am still not sure why the blue tie fighter lasers show up on TESB on the vhs and not the GOUT) . I prefer the colors of my letterbox 92 VHS over the 93 and subsequent versions . On the GOUT , playing on my widscreen crt , the colors are amped up a bit too much for my tastes in places , the skin tones appear a bit too orangeish and I noticed in the droid sale scenes , the blue on the legs of R5-D4 are an almost neon blue . I adjusted the tv settings to movie mode and it toned these issues down a little , it helped , but they were still noticeable . Another nice thing about the tv , is it has different widescreen modes , normal , panorama , wide and zoom . I have it set to wide and there is no window boxing on the image and no one looks stretched out like " taffy vision " . I did not notice picture info lost on the sides either . The sound on this tv is phenomenal , with deep bass and the black levels are fantastic . I love this tv and hope it keeps working , though it has developed a few problems in recent years , And I think it may be due to being moved around too much. There is slight phosphor burn in on the upper right hand corner of the screen and a noticeable buzzing noise an it recently started making a continuous ticking sound like an old clock .Probably needs new capacitors , but beyond my scope of knowledge to fix .Overall , even though the 92 letterbox vhs has a softer image , it still looks pretty crisp on this tv and I prefer it over the GOUT on this tv or any other tv .This is the Samsung Slimfit Widescreen HD CRT that I have…https://www.cnet.com/products/samsung-tx-s3082wh/ I would love to get a laserdisc player and the 89 widescreen disc an try it out n this tv .

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#1418185
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<strong>Disney+</strong> streaming platform : <strong>Star Wars content</strong> &amp; various other info
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yeah , I thought that was neat too , started to watch it not too long ago . I only wish they had Navajo subtitles as well , might be a good way to learn the language . I heard the now out of print DVD they put out years ago has Navajo subtitles . What they have on D+ seems to be the Macklunkey edition with the Navajo dub ported over .

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#1418065
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Star Wars: deleted and extended scenes * database *
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erichf69 said:

Good Evening All,

I am still individually colorizing the frames for the extended “hangar scene” from return of the jedi. There is some color bleed and missing color in some spots, but this is a work in progress that will take some time. This is what I have so far.

Once I am done coloring and cleaning all the frames as best possible, I will composite the millennium falcon matte painting behind the actors and add a little grain to somewhat blend it all together, and then render out a final video clip.

Benduwan is putting an together an extended cut of ROTJ. This will be my first real contribution to this project.
Comments and critique are welcomed.

https://i.imgur.com/JmpR2IU.mp4

^ this is looking good .

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#1418057
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<strong>Star Wars: Ewoks</strong> (animated tv series) - a general discussion thread
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I was also surprised to see that Droids was not on that list , especially as some of those who worked on the OT had a hand in making that show ;Ben Burtt , Joe Johnston etc . Still cool to see them acknowledge that older material .I hope it leads to them releasing more ( like Droids )and opens up a possibility of adapting " legends " material in animation ala the DC animated universe or even live action .

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#1417103
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RocketJump's Video on Star Wars &quot;being saved in the edit&quot; is Literally a Lie
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and if one scrolls down far enough in the comments of RJ’s video , one will see that RJ even had to state in the comments that he wasn’t trying to attack Lucas.

“That was never the goal, nor the intent of this video,” he wrote. “It should go without saying that George Lucas supervised, approved, and even contributed to all of these editorial changes. However, having seen the response, this is a point of fact that clearly should’ve been stated and it was an oversight on my part that that simple acknowledgment wasn’t included.”

I just wish he had thought to add that to the description of the video afterwards .

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#1417084
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RocketJump's Video on Star Wars &quot;being saved in the edit&quot; is Literally a Lie
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yeah , I thought it was vitriolic too , on a somewhat related tangent to the topic at hand, I find this conversation with Marcia Lucas and Ben Burtt in this video very interesting . Starts at the one hour mark and goes on for about 15 minutes …https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOxfmq0nCEs

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#1417083
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<strong>The Empire Strikes Back</strong> - a general <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> thread
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Yup , and he edited the description after I called him out on it multiple times , seems he removed the comments too . here is the exchange …me -Nice faux radio show . I was almost convinced this was real .The “commercials” are taken from the call in promotion in 1980 where you could pay to hear the actors in character promoting the film ,and the interviews with the actors were conducted at the time of the films release and are available elsewhere on youtube . A google search turns up no evidence of this “1980 Radio Special " save for your video here . That said , the production value here is pretty good and that spinning tape up there enhances the illusion . To quote Mark Hamill in this , " When it’s cut together , it really looks like we’re carrying on a conversation .”

him-Thank you! I could find no recording of this special either.

me-lol . A bit disingenuous to try and pass it off as authentic no ? kinda ballsy .

him- Not at all. I read the DJ script that came with the record full of interviews and assembled it just how they did in 1980.

me- this still gives one the impression that you are the one doing the interviews. Perhaps you should put that in the description. And do you have a link or source for this record you mentioned ?

him-Thanks for listening and I appreciate the kind comments from the start.

me- sarcastic more than kind . So , where can this non existing record with the DJ script be found ?

him-Here you go my friend - the non-existing record. https://bid.vegalleries.com/The-Empire-Strikes-Back-Radio-Interview-Record_i36820718

me- ok , I will concede that I was wrong about that record existing , took some digging beyond your link and found a listing for it on the star wars collectors archive . Not very much info on it online .Still , why not just play the record itself , or note that this is a reconstruction of its contents in your description for this video ? I still think its misleading and disingenuous not to do so . Specifically , if you had added this to your description " (Lucasfilm, 1980) A radio interview record for The Empire Strikes Back. Records such as these were sent to radio stations with a list of questions and cues included, so that local radio stations could “interview” the cast of the film. " , and mentioned that you were reading the script that came with the record in order to recreate the experience of a radio station airing it , it would have cleared up a lot of confusion .

him- dude, the only thing on the record were the interviews. Nothing else - I crafted the entire radio show around the static interviews that were on the record itself. Please feel free to make your own version if you dont care for what I’ve done. I look forward to seeing it!

me- the production is not the issue , it’s the fact that you did not state this information in your videos description that is the problem . Any user unaware of this record would think that is your original production and that you were the one conducting the Interviews back in 1980 . Or that maybe you obtained broadcast rights from Backstage Productions Incorporated, as the sleeve on the record script suggests in the expired listing you linked to in response to my comments.

so yeah , he went back and added the disclaimer with this disingenuous remark…(PS: Yes, this is a RE-CREATION of a radio show that no copies seem exist of - yes it is ME doing the narration. Apparently, it’s so authentic sounding it’s fooling people…compliment, I suppose?)