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#1226448
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Is Star Wars "Better Than It's Ever Been"?
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All I can say is that I have been around since the beginning (1977) and I can remember a time when I was starved for ANY new Star Wars content , from about 1986 to 1991 you could hardly find a book , comic or magazine on the subject and there was a long ass 16 year wait between the OT and the PT .So, there is some really good stuff now and some mediocre stuff but I am just glad to have it still active after all these years

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#1225534
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Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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NeverAreGreat said -" And it’s just a shame, since the seeds of greatness are within TFA from the beginning. A Republic split between a strong, centralized ‘Imperial’ government and a united confederation of self-ruled star systems would provide ample opportunity for conflict." …funny he should mention that , and while I feel that you should not need a novel or comic etc to explain the movie to you , I also feel that they can be quite an enjoyable experience at times . The novel Bloodline was a great read in my opinion and is premised on this exact scenario . It is part of the "official " canon back story to TFA . I have the audio book and it is a fantastic production. puts me in a mood to watch TFA and Last Jedi again…http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Bloodline_(novel)

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#1225094
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Taking a stand against toxic fandom (and other )
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Jay said:

DominicCobb said:

Jay said:

DominicCobb said:

Jay said:

DominicCobb said:

Any comparisons to Gamergate are accurate insofar as the harrasers are concerned (though I haven’t seen these comparisons from LFL employees).

https://twitter.com/rianjohnson/status/1016392684242550784

GamerGate: another great example of using a minority of harassers to paint an entire community with that wide brush and obscure the original criticisms.

Okay, well was I wrong? I’m not seeing the part in that tweet where he says that anyone who hates his movie is a Gamergate level harraser. He’s pretty spot on in the comparison.

Did you read the preceding tweet that he was responding to? It was about ComicsGate, another supposedly hate-driven campaign that’s being used to paint many comics fans with the same brush as GamerGate, with the usual shitstirring by the usual frauds looking for attention/money like Quinn and Sarkeesian.

Maybe he’s not doing it intentionally, but by drawing the comparisons to what’s going on with Star Wars, I find it hard to believe he doesn’t know who and what he’s inviting into the discussion.

You of course have a typically cynical take on these “gates” that I have no desire to get into you with. Putting that aside, whatever you think of the people bring attacked, there is no reason whatsoever to violently harass. And it’s beyond absurd to suggest that one shouldn’t call out violent harassment just for fear that someone else entirely might come in and paint all criticism with a broad brush. I’m sorry I have more sympathy with those getting death threats than those merely getting supposedly generalized. I don’t know why Rian should have to top toe and ignore the issue completely just because of how other people may or may not respond.

Of course no one should violently harass someone else. Duh.

My point is that the result so far in these “gate” stories is that the harassment becomes the story, the broader fanbase is guilty by association (“toxic fandom”), and the original story that kicked everything off is conveniently forgotten or labeled as conspiracy, while the participants supposedly on the side of social justice go on to build massive social media followings and make money from the whole affair.

Rian can bash harassers all he wants, but drawing comparisons to GamerGate and ComicsGate is going to result in the same shitty mess. I don’t want a JediGate.

The original story that compelled me to kick this thread off was the treatment of Kelly Marie Tran , and lets not hurl insults at people such as “duh” and "panties in a bunch " aye ? seems unbecoming of a moderator imho. And speaking of making money from the whole affair , go to youtube , type in star wars and set the filter to today , on any given day and you can see it’s both sides of the fence . I also have a youtube channel but it is not monetized , nor is my star wars art

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#1222894
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Taking a stand against toxic fandom (and other )
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I think the character of Jar Jar was largely redeemed in The Clone Wars animated series that started in 2008 .As a mythological character , he fits the archetype of the fool , and that is not meant to be derogatory ,The archetype is that of one with good intentions , stumbling into the world , a Jester. Ahmed played him well and did not deserve this treatment by some toxic fans.