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#1355205
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<strong>Return Of The Jedi</strong> - 'Behind The Scenes / Making Of' <strong>images</strong> thread
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V.I.N.Cent said:

 

and some years after ROTJ, but still a cool pic:

 

I don’t recall this pic before, maybe an unused promo poster? Or for a later game or other merchandise?

^ That colorful poster was a mail in promotion for Hi-C fruit drinks …a friend of mine had it when we were kids .I remember I thought it was cool but wondered why Luke seemed to be looking away from Vader while fighting him .

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#1354376
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Return of the Jedi (Chronological saga- <em>Final version released</em>)
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Just watched it and very much enjoyed it ! Your opening logos were fantastic…very slick and professional looking and sounding .I love what you did with Endor , it really does feel like a more alien world now .The overall tone of this edit is much more serious and now I am on board with many of the music choices you used .I think it would have been cool to use a line from the novelization for one of Jabba’s subtitles , " I was killing your kind when being a Jedi meant something " . Your edit gets his attitude of disdain for Jedi across, but I think the novel line would be much more of a direct way of doing it. Am I mistaken , or did you add in some foley effects like footsteps etc in some parts ? The opening scene feels much more ominous now and I like it a lot .The only thing that took me out of this a bit was the gray in the Emperor’s throne room . I think I see what you are going for…the tone does enhance the glow of the Emperor’s eyes and the colors of the lightsabers and the lightning…I just think you overdid it a bit . I don’t think you should change it back to the way it was originally shown, but maybe put a little bit of the blue tones back in . As it stands now, it reminds me a bit too much of Sin City and in pushing the gray tones , it makes all of the characters in the scene almost devoid of color .I liked the subtle enhancement of the Death Star explosion and the kind of " gaussian blur/dreamlike"color effects of certain scenes .I think it was a good choice to get rid of the dance number in Jabba’s palace …It helps with the tone you are going for .I also prefer the more reddish glows on the x-wings to the purple you used and would love to see Sebastian Shaw’s force ghost re-instated . Another cool thing would have been to clean up the editdroid laserdisc footage with Yoda with the line," Obi-Wan would have told you long ago, had I let him " and insert it into this edit .Your musical choices in this sequence did help make it feel new and exiting though .In fact , I thought the music you used in much of this edit helped give everything a greater sense of urgency .Sorry to ramble . just giving my overall thoughts and hopefully,constructive criticism .Overall, I really did enjoy this . Thank you for sharing .Out of curiosity,are you planning on doing further edits to this ?

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#1350608
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Return of the Jedi (Chronological saga- <em>Final version released</em>)
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IlFanEditore said:

Could you please tell me what you think of this?
I’m still not sure… I’m not eagerly fond of the music in Return, so I’m trying to replace it here and here.
I’d like to have an opinion.
I tried to remove the original music with Audacity, but it was hard to keep other noises and voices.

https://vimeo.com/424133753
PW: fanedit

I prefer the original music , although this is an interesting experiment and provides a new experience . That is just me though . I am interested in seeing/hearing how you incorporate the ending of this scene with the one that comes afterward in the space battle though .

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#1350606
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Vader- a 7 in 1 edit of the Star Wars Saga
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Just viewed part one of this edit you sent me via pm . Sorry for the delay, have not been feeling well . First thoughts …Some of the music choices were…unexpected . I like how you deepened Jar Jar’s voice to make him a bit less goofy in the scenes he is in and I like the GodFather 2 style flashback editing . The only thing that took me out of it were a few of the sound effects you threw in to highlight some moments you obviously had some problems with . I chuckled a bit ,admittedly, but your description of this edit implied a more serious tone to me . I think there are ways you can edit around some of those scenes or drop some of them all together and still make the narrative work . I will give more feedback when I watch the second part . Overall it was an enjoyable experience so far . Thank you for sharing .

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#1349151
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FAN EDIT REQUEST THREAD- Post your dream Fan Edits Here!
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would love to see an edit of Conan The Destroyer…I have only found info for one edit online and it seems hard to obtain .Something that puts back in a lot of the score from the original 1982 CTB would be nice. and cut down the goofy bits with Malak the thief and excises the camel scene where Malak says " remember that "? or some such nonsense . I mean,WTF Malak , you weren’t even there !

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#1345466
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<strong>Star Wars (1977)</strong> - a General <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> thread
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SilverWook said:

For those of us who had the comics, novel, and storybook growing up, it was baffling that it wasn’t in the movie. As the radio drama expanded on it even more, you’d think Lucas would have reinstated those scenes in 1997. Putting the Biggs’ reunion/vouching for Luke’s piloting skills scene back in only pronounces their absence.

^ totally agree ! When the 1997 Special edition was announced , this was the thing I most wanted to see and I was really bummed out when it did not happen . First time I got to see the Luke /Biggs Anchorhead scenes was on the Behind The Magic cd-rom a year later . That storybook had me imagining what it would have been like in the film for 20 years at that point .

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#1340345
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<strong>Star Wars (1977)</strong> - a General <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> thread
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ATMachine said:

By the time of those George Lucas quotes, he’d already filmed the movie and decided against having any nudity. But the concept art was done at a time when the script was still in flux. Going “the Disney route” wasn’t necessarily a decided thing in 1974-5.

Besides which, costume designer John Mollo wrote in his notes from 1975 that Leia’s outfit was to be “mock-medieval” but also “Tarzan-type” (apparently for the prison escape). Which fits with the loincloth in the McQuarrie sketches.

And as I said above, there was basically a rape scene in the 1974 rough draft with a “half-naked” Leia and the “Urellian trappers”, which was indecent enough that JW Rinzler shied away from describing it on the official SW site.

I really think it’s your own assumption that, since SW is “family-friendly” now, it must have always been that way from the very beginning. The evidence suggests otherwise.

^can you post a link to that script showing where it explicitly states that she was half naked ,or a rape ?
and I will concede that it was not decided definitefly at the start …https://www.nottingham.ac.uk/scope/documents/2001/december-2001/kramer.pdf still do not see a loincloth or nudity in any of those sketches you posted though .

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#1340334
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<strong>Star Wars (1977)</strong> - a General <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> thread
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because Lucas conceived the film as a retelling of the serials of his youth and wanted to give kids a modern fairy tale mythology and has been quoted many times as saying so . George Lucas in an interview in the New York Times, published on the 12th of September 1976:

It's for young people. 'Graffiti' was for 16-year-olds; this is for 14-year-olds. Young people don't have a fantasy life anymore, not the way we did. All they've got is Kojak and Dirty Harry. There's all these kids running around wanting to be killer cops.

https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/library/film/091276wars.html

and the drawings appear to YOU to show that , again , conjecture on your part and not fact .

See also…In the cover story of the April 1977 issue of American Film, for example, Lucas is quoted as saying: “I decided I wanted to make a children’s movie, to go the Disney route”; because he had realised that “a whole generation was growing up without fairytales” (Zito, 1977: 9, 13).