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#261964
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Star Wars Edit: DC/Faces audio + 2004 video Hybrid (Released)
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In My experience, using multi-angle in DVDMaestro is difficult. The way that I got my multiangle things to work is to create the disc without any chapter points after the first angle block. For some reason if there are chapter points it gave me trouble, however you do need markers at the beginning and end of the multi-angle portions. You can then use pgc edit and VOBlanker to add and replace portions of the movie in chapter-length blocks.
For instance, I when the GOUT was released I began to work on a DVD for "Star Wars" that would have multiple angles representing the two crawls (sourced from GOUT and Moth3r's version), and would use audio tracks representing the 1993 DC, the 1977 mono mix, the 1977 stereo mix, the 1985 mix, an isolated score, and finally, the DC commentary track, along with self created subtitles. After finalizing all menus, subtitle tracks and and audio tracks in DVDMaestro, I ran into trouble getting the multi-angle version of the dvd to compile properly.
Here I will explain the steps I used to create the final version of this DVD. The first step was to make sure that the portions of the film that were required to have two angles had the same GOP Structure. This was accomplished using DVD Decrypter, AVIsynth, and VirtualDub, with a final encode step using Nero Vision MPEG encoder. It was important for me to match the chapter points from the official GOUT DVD, so I made sure that the GOP structure was the same for the crawl portion of chapter 2 and for the first shot from chapter 3. These two sections were encoded separately. I then needed to create a short video that had very low bitrate (it won't work otherwise) that would cover the same number of frames as the first chapter, and a second low bitrate video to cover the single-angle first portion of chapter 2. I then used Cuttermaran to join these two files together with both of the newly created files for the first angle as well as the single-angle portion of chapter 3 (the last two frames must be re-encoded b/c they are B frame, if this is not done there will be a pause in the final DVD video) [this will be video file 1]. I then join the two files created to cover the second angle [video file 2], and create a third video file that covers only the reencoded first chapter and first part of the second chapter [video file 3]. I finalize the files by using 'Pulldown.exe' to enable pulldown flags (This was an NTSC project) and to ensure they will work in DVDMaestro.
This will cover the DVDMaestro creation of the disc.
First, I created a project in Maestro with full length audio tracks that I needed as well as all subtitles and menus, I then add video file 1 (from above) to angle 1. Next I add video file 3 from above to angle 2. This will end up with a multi angle portion covering the first chapter and the first part of chapter 2. Now add an angle change marker (create chapter point, but uncheck the chapter marker box) to the very end of the shorter angle 2 video clip. Now drag video file 2 from above to the timeline after video file 3. This will remove file 3 from the timeline and add file 2 at the correct position. The next step is to add another angle change marker at the end of video file 2 and add chapter points at the correct positions of chapter 2 and 3. You should now have a project in which the first angle covers chapters 1-3 entirely and angle two represents the 'Episode IV' crawl only. This project, with full-length audio tracks and full length subtitle tracks and all menus is ready to be compiled.
Next I create a new DVD project with only one video track (the full bitrate MPEG rip of the GOUT DVD, use 'ReStream.exe' to remove sequence end codes) and all audio and subtitle tracks. To this I add all necessary chapter points as well as markers at the beginning and end of the multi-angle areas. I then author this DVD.
Using PGCedit I open the first authored DVD and add blank cells and chapters until I reach the total number desired for the final dvd, in this case 50 chapters plus 1 15 frame chapter at the end (51 total chapters, make sure all new cells have VOB ID 5 and Cell ID 1). I then add entry points for all chapters to the main title (this is only necessary if you have chapter menus, you can copy coding from the second DVD you compiled). I then open the VTS_01_0.ifo in IFOedit and open the VTS_PGCITI portion and then open VTS_PGC_1. You can scroll to the bottom of this list to find a list of the VOB ID and Cell ID for each cell in the main movie. The VOB ID for all newly created cells should already be set to a value of 5 to match the last original cell. Then number all new cells starting at 1 fro the last original cell and up to 49 for the last cell in the title. Save this ifo and replace the .bup file, then open this DVD in VOBlanker. Make sure that even though this is a multi-angle dvd, the main movie is processed. I then blank all cells in the title except those in the multi-angle portions of the film. This includes all newly added cells and the first two cells (low bitrate chapter 1 and first part of chapter 2). Also, you will get better results if you do not blank out the second half of chapter 3 (the single angle section of chapter 3).
Next I open the second DVD in VOBLanker and extract all cells in the main title to multiple files. When this is complete I open the blanked version of the first DVD and replace all single angle chapters with the extracted vobs from the second DVD (Replace the low bitrate version of the first two cells with the higher bit rate version, also make sure not to replace any multi-angle portions of the movie). Finally, the ifo files must be updated in IFOedit and PGCedit. First, open the VIDEO_TS.ifo file in IFOedit. Change the number of angles for Title_1 under the VMG_PTT_SRPT section from 1 to 2 and save (replace .bup). Then open this DVD in PGCedit and edit the PGC for the main movie title. VOBlanker changes the cell flags for all of the cells and these must be fixed. The first cell/chapter should have a default value of two for the first flag. All single angle chapter cells, except for cells immediately after multi-angle cells, should have a value of 8 for 'seamless playback' joint. For this example, the first cell is set to a value of 2, the second cell, (the single angle portion of chapter 2) is set to a value of 8, the third cell (the first angle of the second part of chapter 2) is set to a value of 95, the fourth cell (the second angle of the second part of chapter 2) is set to a value of 223, the fifth cell (the first angle portion of the first part of chapter 3) is set to a value of 93, the sixth cell (the second angle of the first part of chapter 3) is set to 221, the seventh cell (the single-angle second portion of chapter 3) is set to a value of 10, and all other single-angle cells are set to a value of 8. Finally, make any other desired changes in PGCedit (like correcting stream numbers) and save. The DVD is now finalized with two angles and as many chapters as are necessary. Additionally, It will play seamlessly.

Please PM me for more details if necessary as I have done a few other multi-angle dvds in DVD Maestro.
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#259556
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Help: looking for... Prequel Preservations...
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Originally posted by: klokwerk
schorman13:
Yep. Just woke up and checked my torrent program. I finished a couple of hours ago and have been seeding since. So, it's an isolated score to your particular theatrical edit? I mean, it isn't based off the LD?


Yeah, I recreated the theatrical cut using the retail dvd and three short clips from the TB version provided by russs15. I recreated the audio track in stereo only and also created an isolated score from the Ultimate Edition soundtrack. Right now, I'm planning on posting this to demonoid beginning on Saturday.
As for the 5.1 audio track, It's my understanding that the original LOOK version Bootleg of TPM had a rip of the 5.1 audio. That is the version I'm looking to try to add to this dvd. Unfortunately, this dvd had some authoring issues that made it pretty tough to navigate, so I doubt many people, who had it before the retail version came out, held on to it.
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#259319
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Help: looking for... Prequel Preservations...
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I've posted a torrent my isolated score for the Phantom Menace theatrical version on demonoid in flac format. I can post the whole DVD if there is interest. If anyone would like to match this to the retail DVD, it shouldn't be too hard to edit, although the podrace grid sequence has a lot of differences in the music editing (eg. repeated music, different sync with the scenes).
Klokwerk, let me know if you've been able to get this yet. If not I'll try a different upload method.
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#258136
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Help: looking for... Prequel Preservations...
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Does anyone have the TPM LD rip? I just finished making a theatrical cut of the film using the official dvd and a few shots from the TB version, but I created the soundtrack in stereo, as the TB version only had a dolby 2.0 track. I would really love to be able to drop in the 5.1 mix from the LD. Additionally, I created an isolated score for the theatrical cut if anyone is interested.
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#252507
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Info: I recreated the wipe from ROTS (Released)
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Hello, A while back I was trying to create a passable version of the diagonal cut left out of the DVD version of ROTS. I think I did a decent job using only the DVD as a source and the old TC Xvid’s as a reference. It should be very easy to recut back into the film using the retail DVD and a frame accurate cutting program like cuttermaran. Please let me know what you think of this.

http://www.savefile.com/files/177889

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#117695
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Problems Adding deleted scenes back into AOTC
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For some reason pulldown.exe will not convert frame rates from 29.970 to 23.976. To do this you can use two programs, both of which are available through doom9.net I believe. The first is called Cuttermaran and the second is called DVD Patcher version 1.06. You will first have to demux your mpeg2 video stream as Cuttermaran only works with elementary streams. Because of some unknown but useful glitch with Cuttermaran, the program does not recognize the flags for blending frames in mpeg2 videos and thus will only recognize the 23.976 fps frames actually encoded in the file. Select the entire timeline in Cuttermaran, add it to the cut list, and output the file. The new video will contain only the original 23.976 fps frames, but will play at 29.970 fps, giving a shorter video file that plays too fast. Use the second program "DVD Patcher" to fix this. Import the new video, make sure all settings in the program match the mpeg2 video stream, including the nominal bitrate, vertical and horizontal resolutions and aspect ratio (the program will show the original settings of the video prior to patching). Now change the frame rate to 23.976, check "patch entire file", and then patch. I think there will be a warning about changing the frame rate, but this can be ignored. Now you should have an elementary mpeg2 stream that runs at 23.976 instead of the telecined 29.970 you currently have. Consequently, you could also use pulldown.exe to change the rest of the film from 23.976 to 29.970, as this is necessary before creating the dvd anyway. Cheers