rpvee

eiyosus said:

I just realized the "We're home" line is in reference to the Millennium Falcon.  Did everybody else catch that, or am I just very slow?

 In the context of the trailer it is, but we don't know what they're referring to in terms of the film itself.  Not sure why they'd have been away from the Falcon long enough for a line like that.  Maybe it's in reference to Yavin or something.

-----

LOVED the teaser!!!  So many feelings. haha

That was one hell of a season finale.  Hard to believe how the show started versus what it is now.  This really felt like classic Star Wars, with some PT flair but only elements.  Plus, the final minute... even if expected, still mind blowing.  Damn.

Sad - Dave Prowse revealed he has dementia. :(

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/movies/star-wars-vet-david-prowse-suffers-dementia-article-1.2027483

FYI, it feels far more epic and fantastic in a theater.  I took a train out to Boston for the first showing yesterday, and there was definitely a larger than normal crowd for a Hunger Games showing at 10 AM on a Friday, haha!  I even jokingly called out, "So everyone's here for Hunger Games, right?", and most of the audience laughed.  Rest assured, I was not the only person gasping in anxiousness anytime a trailer started that wasn't TFA (naturally, it was the last one), and I was not the only person in the slightest to leave after the trailer premiered.  Strangely, I was the only person to stick around and catch it two more times in two other auditoriums, so I guess I'm the only person in all of New England to have seen the first three theatrical showings of the new Star Wars trailer.

Anyway, not only is there a great thrill in seeing it with a crowd, but seeing it in a full HD presentation on a giant screen with big sound makes it truly feel like Star Wars.  Modern, yes, and with Abrams' touch, yes.  But the score, those sound effects, and the atmosphere as a whole, are meant for a theater.  Being inside that X-Wing with the pilot, soaring across that lake with the fighters, creeping through the woods with a new Dark Sider... December 2015 can't come soon enough!!!

On the train to Boston for the most local theatrical "premiere"!  Watching it on a computer just wouldn't cut it versus a theater experience.  Plus, that means I'll see it slightly before the internet release!  The first movie here is at 10.

Sooooo this is awesome:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj23dwWHukY

"Gathering Forces" is really good!!!

twister111 said:

rpvee said:

Does anyone have that fan-made ROTS trailer that took unused Anakin vs Obi-Wan choreography from the 2004 "Return of Darth Vader" mini-doc and filled in the green/blue screen?  It was pretty cool.

This http://youtu.be/O84zsjLvOfk ???

 Yes!!!  Wow, thanks! :D  Always wondered why others didn't take those unused Vader vs. Obi-Wan shots from the 2004 Bonus DVD doc and fill in the green-screen.

The title also fits the "story" within the subtitles themselves:

The Phantom Menace: there's some hidden evil (the Sith)

Attack of the Clones: the Sith make their move (the start of the Clone Wars)

Revenge of the Sith: the Sith claim their victory

A New Hope: a new chance to defeat the Sith despite their victory

The Empire Strikes Back: the Sith get the upper hand again, despite the "new hope"

Return of the Jedi: the Jedi finally defeat the Sith

The Force Awakens: with the dark side extinguished again, The Force can "awaken" and breathe again

Even if that's not what happens in the film, I like that the new subtitle continues the little summaries/stories that can be surmised from the others.

Does anyone have that fan-made ROTS trailer that took unused Anakin vs Obi-Wan choreography from the 2004 "Return of Darth Vader" mini-doc and filled in the green/blue screen?  It was pretty cool.

Vader scene (low quality): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0PgF_cfrhM

It's James Earl Jones, but something sounds different...

Abso-freaking-lutely.  That novel is a masterpiece.  Matthew Stover seriously made Revenge of the Sith a hell of a heartbreaking, powerful, engaging story.

unamochilla2 said:

According to this official tweet, Williams is only confirmed for Episode VII at this point.  However, Kathleen Kennedy said he was scoring all three films.  Even SW Insider said he was scoring the entire trilogy.  Wonder what has changed since then or if the official tweet was mistaken?  Very confusing...

 The guy is over 80, they probably don't want to put too much on his plate at once.  Taking it one film at a time is better.  I just saw him in concert in Boston the other week, and he's still doing great (and even mentioned the new trilogy).  I'm not worried about it.

Reddkryten said:

I'm a newbie here so I could be wrong, but surely it couldn't be 4k? Or if it is 4k it would be a big deal for the original trilogy?

My understanding is that the scans of the original trilogy, were all done at 1080p, just under 2k. So if Disney have a 4k screening, they would have had to rescan the negative?

Also, werent the last two prequels shot at 2k or under, so they would be impossible.

I recall reading that the originals were scanned in 4K in 2004 (for a good master for the DVD versions), and it's those scans that we've been getting versions of/alterations of since.

Regarding the prequels, TPM was shot on film, but yeah, AOTC and ROTS are originally 1080p since they were shot digitally.

I've had the pleasure of seeing Williams a few times here in Massachusetts conducting film music with the Boston Pops, and he said just back in May that he would "keep eating his Wheaties" in regards to the new trilogy announcement.  Glad it's official now!!  Got to briefly meet him too (as I also have in past years), such a nice guy!

Eh.  I love Fringe to death and like the '09 Star Trek, but Abrams has too much of his own visual style (lens flare anyone?) to match with Star Wars.  If this were a reboot like Star Trek more or less was, I'd be happy, but these films are supposed to fit with the past ones, both in terms of content AND visuals.

AntcuFaalb said:

Ewan McGregor: "Wonder if they will need any Obi-Wan Hologram action??!”

What does he mean? I'm confused...

If Obi-Wan shows up again as a ghost, Ewan wants to play him.  Another thing that will make the OT in the middle look awkward.

Bingowings said:

rpvee said:

The way Disney has been phrasing this... "there will be more films"... it's not like they're even trying to convince us they care about the story.  The story ended at the end of Jedi, simple as that, but they say "more films" as if they'll keep making them until people stop paying to see them.  They didn't say "another trilogy".  "More films".  However many that means.  Star Wars will lose its identity.  But at least the original six will maintain their status, since they'll always be seen as officially Lucas' vision/ideas.

Honestly, I'm really worried about the scores.  A Star Wars feature, live-action film without John Williams?  Unthinkable.

There you go again.

The story only ends with Jedi if you think it's about the living flesh of Anakin Skywalker (something that would never have crossed anyone's mind until 1999.

If you think it's about wars in the stars of a distant galaxy a long time ago you can have hundreds of legitimate episodes.

I suspect that there will be suckage but there is the potential with billions of clones, former Imperial generals and the like to try and unsteady the new republic, not to mention Leia going off the rails and Anakin existing as a ghost to keep some of that continuity going (just not the the EU one).

It sucks space balls if the saga ends with Jedi anyway, it's a really bad film and almost as bad as the PT.

The story ends with Jedi even in terms of just the OT.  The bad guys we've encountered since Star Wars are dead, the good guys we've loved since Star Wars are happy, their arcs are complete, story over.  Even if Jedi isn't the best of the trilogy, no one has outright called it a bad or incomplete ending to the saga, so why should it be now?

I'd be fine with more Star Wars movies if they just didn't use the "Episode" thing.  The "Episodes" should be left be, done and over with, the tale of Luke Skywalker and his father (or Anakin Skywalker and his son, whichever) made by George Lucas and respected as that.  And from there, we can have "Star Wars: The New Jedi" or "Star Wars: Boba Fett" or "Star Wars: Winds Forming Sand Dunes on Tatooine"... just not "Episodes".

The Aluminum Falcon said:

A Star Wars feature, live-action film without John Williams?  Unthinkable.

Well, ROTS had limited Williams participation because of how it was edited. It was either ROTS or AOTC that Williams never got a good final cut to work with/score. Still, no participation whatsoever would be bad. Hopefully, they don't jettison his work altogether and use... DANNY ELFMAN!

It was AOTC, I heard Williams didn't contribute much because he was pissed at how butchered his score for TPM was in its final cut.

Meanwhile, I doubt they'd flat out ignore his contributions.  They even use some of his themes in Clone Wars.  If a TV series can, feature films can.  I just wonder how much they'll pay attention, it could go two ways (assuming Williams doesn't come back):

1. They simply put quotes of the Force theme here and there, but otherwise have new themes everywhere (like Potter 4-8 did with Hedwig's Theme).

2. They actually look at all of his themes for all the characters and use them ("Luke and Leia", the Droids' theme, etc.).

Unfortunately, the first option is the most likely, more or less.

The way Disney has been phrasing this... "there will be more films"... it's not like they're even trying to convince us they care about the story.  The story ended at the end of Jedi, simple as that, but they say "more films" as if they'll keep making them until people stop paying to see them.  They didn't say "another trilogy".  "More films".  However many that means.  Star Wars will lose its identity.  But at least the original six will maintain their status, since they'll always be seen as officially Lucas' vision/ideas.

Honestly, I'm really worried about the scores.  A Star Wars feature, live-action film without John Williams?  Unthinkable.

Honestly, I'd prefer this.  It'd leave the originals and their stories alone, and the OT wouldn't be sandwiched between two newer, "fresher"-looking trilogies.

What else is there to tell??  Vader's dead, Palpatine's dead, saga over.  Come on, a sequel to Return of the Jedi??  Read those words a few times.  And not to mention for any future newcomers to Star Wars, the prequels and sequel trilogy will look so fresh and new, while the original trilogy will look as "old" as ever, no matter how terrific it is to our eyes.  Ugh, this is BAD guys.  Call it a spinoff or whatever, just NOT EPISODE SEVEN.

Not to mention, as someone else said, imagine this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rz4m7euNPYM

And then the "Long time ago" screen, then the theme music.  Doesn't work, we need that Fox march.  And who knows if Williams is going to come back or be able to do all three??

I have a very, veryyyyyy bad feeling about this.

Welcome! :)

TV's Frink said:

Ah, I see.  Not bad, actually.  But no soup for you.

haha it was worth a try at least!

TV's Frink said:

rpvee said:

"What do you mean you're in Genesis?"

lol...I don't get it.

Geonosis sounds like Genesis. :P