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#1319762
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Last movie seen
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DuracellEnergizer said:

ray_afraid said:

Vultural said:

Starship Trooper - 1997 - 6/10
oh why, oh why, has no one in the fan-edit world ever given this gem an adult overhaul.

Because what you’re suggesting would remove the satire & therefore the entire point of the film.

The novel wasn’t satirical, so there’s merit to a “purist cut”.

Sure, but it’s obviously what the film was going for & removing that, unfortunately, would make it a very bland film instead of something that more closely resembles the book.

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#1319761
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Anyone else think Empire Strikes Back's Special Edition is actually better than the Theatrical Cut?
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marsthgodofwar said:

The biggest change in ESB was the color grading. Where Hoth was originally white, in the SE it is blue. I am torn on the change, because I grew up with the SE color grade and I never hated it.

It’s not just the snow. The blue tint has been applied to the entire film & it changes all of the colors for the worse.

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#1319759
Topic
Small details that took you <em><strong>FOREVER</strong></em> to notice in the <em>Star Wars</em> films
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ZkinandBonez said:

I’d say that the whole “turn your brain off” kind of has to be applied to a lot of sci-fi and especially fantasy (and SW is obviously both), otherwise you wouldn’t have much of a story at all. As long as it’s balanced, and the whole narrative itself makes sense, then I think it’s ok to stretch your suspension of disbelief or bend the rules a little. I mean ESB, though generally considered the best SW films, really is the most nonsensical one of them all. The continuity of that film is a complete mess if you try to make sense of it (at face value anyway), and some scenes breaks physics even by SW standards. But, it all makes sense as a dramatic narrative and that’s what makes it a good film and justifies all the weird logic IMO.

You don’t have to turn your brain off to suspend belief.
Something can be fantastical & even silly while still making sense within it’s own context.
This is a very different topic though.

So anyway, yeah, never noticed that Luke claims Vader is on the moon before he arrives.
Neat bit of trivia & a welcome contender for a Revisited change.

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#1319677
Topic
Anyone else think Empire Strikes Back's Special Edition is actually better than the Theatrical Cut?
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Adaman Kenobi said:

Amongst the ESB Changes, I’m caught in the middle:

The Wampa Cave: I like the original suspense of not seeing the monster, but it just comes out of nowhere once Luke is freed, which is a bit of a continuity issue for me.

Luke is struggling to free himself in time. He’s woken by the creatures roar & it’s clear that it’s on it’s way. It doesn’t “come out of nowhere.” The scene makes sense.

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#1319673
Topic
Small details that took you <em><strong>FOREVER</strong></em> to notice in the <em>Star Wars</em> films
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LexX said:

ray_afraid said:

LexX said:

Well, he might have been on the other side of the moon for all we know.

Maybe? But it doesn’t make visual sense. You shouldn’t have to rationalize it.

You also shouldn’t think about it at all.

Wrong. “Turn your brain off & don’t think about it” is always terrible advice.

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#1317727
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Concerning the Millennium Falcon’s Targeting Computer
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CatBus said:

When the Star Wars audio mix was revised for home video starting in 85, they brought some of the mono mix effects into the stereo/surround tracks. I’m not sure when they incorporated the targeting computer noises, but it was in one of those later revisions.

Would this stereo mix have been attached to the 1980 A New Hope release, or did it not appear until home video?
It’s another reason I’d love to have A New Hope Depecialized.

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#1317454
Topic
4K restoration on Star Wars
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Ronster said:

ray_afraid said:

I’d say this is a perfect place to voice frustration about the situation. Blow off all the steam ya want, we’re all pals.
I think the mind of “We want the version we like” is coming across stronger than “Erasing history is wrong” & that makes some view the frustration/anger as silly/misplaced. Many conversations lately have revolved around this, and I think some are reading that as aggression.

Yeah point taken, but let’s take your statement about “Erasing history is wrong” you can look at that as the theatrical cut of a film not being released in high quality as is the main cause for Star Wars.

But you can also take this as the film was tampered with by the studio perhaps due to time restraints bums on seats in cinemas or imposed re-shoots.

This isn’t the same at all. Nor are any of the other examples you brought up.
Not the same ballpark, not the same sport.

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#1317224
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SE Changes that SHOULD have been made/should be made in the future
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DuracellEnergizer said:

Honestly, I don’t like the whole “Jedi evaporate when they die” concept to begin with…
Is it to spare the bereaved funeral costs?

Possibly. I mean, I’d be nice of em. That shit ain’t cheap.

Here’s further changes I’d make: When Vader slices Ben, his body’s bisected in gruesome fashion; when Yoda dies, Luke buries him.

I could go with that.

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#1317202
Topic
4K restoration on Star Wars
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I’d say this is a perfect place to voice frustration about the situation. Blow off all the steam ya want, we’re all pals.
I think the mind of “We want the version we like” is coming across stronger than “Erasing history is wrong” & that makes some view the frustration/anger as silly/misplaced. Many conversations lately have revolved around this, and I think some are reading that as aggression.

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#1317190
Topic
SE Changes that SHOULD have been made/should be made in the future
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Dek Rollins said:

ray_afraid said:

Dek Rollins said:

he was simply checking the cloak to make certain the body was completely gone.

Actual, Literal Laugh Out Loud

Also, not sure if serious…

I was half serious and yes I know its silly. :p

I just don’t get how him checking the cloak doesn’t make sense in the context of the series if it apparently does in the context of a standalone. Just asking for elaboration.

After looking into it, it seems maybe Vader wouldn’t know what happened.
It still looks silly & I’d like to see it go though.

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#1317171
Topic
4K restoration on Star Wars
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Broom Kid said:

I’m reading Ronster’s post as saying people will and should question why we don’t have what we want yet, but they should also maybe not be so angry/aggressive when trying to discuss it with other likeminded people.

That’s dandy, but it’s also not happening here.
The only time anyone seems to get upset is when someone doesn’t understand the real reasons the OT should be available.
This misunderstanding of our stance has come up often lately from many users.
This isn’t about wanting the version we prefer as much as it’s about the wrongs of re-writing history.

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#1317170
Topic
Why don't people hate the Palpatine re-casting in ESB yet despise Force ghost Anakin's re-casting in RotJ?
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Wanderer_ said:

I dont understand whats so bad about the sample you posted.

It’s the same make-up/mask used in RotS, which is much different than the RotJ look.
I get that anal retentive fans like that it’s the same actor, but the execution is awful. As are the stupid changes to the dialog in the scene.
I personally love the original Emperor & wish they’d stuck closer to that. Clive Revel’s voice is awesome & the look is creepy & mysterious.
I dig Ian too, though. (In Jedi. He’s silly in everything else.)

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#1316944
Topic
SE Changes that SHOULD have been made/should be made in the future
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DuracellEnergizer said:

  • Cut the shot of Vader stomping on Ben’s empty robes.

YES. He should know what just happened.
I brought this up in the Revisited thread (years ago, probably). Don’t remember how it was received by anyone.

Funny that a change I’d like to see actually removes something from the film rather than add to it.
It works fine In Star Wars, but doesn’t make sense in A New Hope.